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Canon General / Re: Silly question by a noob
« on: August 26, 2011, 10:28:09 AM »
There's a few issues... first, as dr crouble mentioned, it would still be the same size sensor and regardless how much pixels it has, costs wont be any cheaper to produce and you wont have the superior resolution of 21mp (for lets say 4k video comes out, etc... It's much easier for Mr Canon (not that he will) but to throw in a patch or firmware to record that size vs recreating the sensor (again). 

Secondly, the bigger pixels, the less noise is sorta a myth... With that thinking, the 10D/20D should have less noise than the 7D, but the 10D got noise past iso 200... (But in it's defense it was actually very close to film tolerances and most photographers using it had a film background so we didn't think anything of it).  Plus, with the smaller pixels you have finer resolution hence you can SEE the noise easier whereas the noise on lower resolution cameras would have to be big enough to take up the majority of said pixel to show, and with those cameras it didn't take much. 

Now with that out of the way, they definitely can put together a barebones no frills super video camera dslr but they would have to make it at a price point (full frame) and cheap enough to produce where it would be profitable and where they are comfortable that it would have enough of a demand to warrant it.  Dont forget struggles including jello cam/rolling shutter, frame rates, buffer and recording limitations, sound options, etc... I couldn't see that kinda camera until they get those dslr quirks sorted out.  If they're going to invest in creating a camera they dont want any of these issues to ruin the camera. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III & The Rest [CR2]
« on: August 25, 2011, 02:00:11 PM »
I have said in prior posts I fully believed the 5d would come out BEFORE the 1d or 1ds.  The 5d mark ii crushed 1ds3 sales due to the same sensor, fraction of the cost... I believed canon learned their lesson, release the new 5d first, then after 6 months or so (after the initial rush and hype has settled a tad), come out with an even better 1ds that would make peoples mouths water... that way people have the incentive to buy the 5d AND the 1d, rather than just the 5d. 

The idea of delaying the 1ds for the market reasons you mentioned is interesting but I doubt it will happen. This time, the gap between the 5dIII and 1dsIV should be bigger. We can expect 2x digic V for the 1ds, and 1x digic V for the 5d which will be more gapped than the previous 2x digic III vs 1x digic IV.

Sony did 24mp @ 12fps in a "cheap" camera and that likely they are going to release 1 or 2 FF cameras with aggressive specs/pricing. We should expect that the 1ds to have at least very high resolution (higher than 5dIII) and speed, together with some other innovations such a crop mode, square sensor and the latest useful small features such as built in gps and wireless. Actually there are other innovations I am thinking about they might add, but they are too mad to mention them here :) If they feel the innovations are not strong enough, they might even tweak the price.

I can't wait to see some facts rather than just guesses !! The A77 gives us some hints of what to expect, and my expectations are high !

What we are expecting and reality are two seperate things my friend... We should know that by now with camera manufacturers... Remember the economy is down, times are tough, and profits are probably, while up, are not AS up as expecting... So expect them to do what's right for their company and profits... hence the two releases, the cheap first, gauge reactions, perhaps make a tweak or two based on those reactions to the 1ds... then plop the big boy...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III & The Rest [CR2]
« on: August 25, 2011, 11:33:58 AM »
I don't think we can really say for sure whether the 7D is "due" for a refresh or not given that its never happened before, my feeling is that its not going to have as long a product cycle as the full frame models.

Unless theres really nothing they can do about it I'd be supprized to see Canon let Sony and potentially Nikon steal a march on them with megapixels which have afterall been a large part of there marketing for crop DSLR's.

I dont think it has anything to do with full frame cycle or not, it's regarding what canon thinks is "pro" "semi pro" and consumer... Canon, at least in passive literature has stated they feel the 7D is a pro level camera, such as the 5d series and 1d series... That may be debatable to us photographers and "pro" photographers, but that is canon's line in the sand.  (CPS membership for platinum(the highest level) requires 2 7d's or higher).  The xxd series has infamously been known as the prosumer or semi pro cameras even though the 60d has made many scratch their heads in this categories...  The rebels or consumers in the eyes of canon. 

I cant see canon releasing an update to the 7d until next fall... (3 year cycle)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Getting a little bit Fed Up...
« on: August 25, 2011, 10:20:28 AM »
Just for giggles regarding how you cant get a sharp image on the 7d, with the settings properly adjusted, can you manual focus to get a sharp image using live view zoomed in on a tripod.  IF you can, then it's a AF/microadjust/camera shake/etc problem which is usually user fixable... If you cannot even pull off manual focus, then send the camera in..

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EOS Bodies / Re: Getting a little bit Fed Up...
« on: August 24, 2011, 11:06:17 PM »
Do let us know if any of our suggestions help with your focus issue. 

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Canon General / Re: Abandoned at the Alter, Again
« on: August 24, 2011, 11:05:36 PM »
You know, it's NOT like canon promised to deliver an announcement and delayed the announcement... Its more like waiting for a proposal rather than being jilted at the alter... Maybe if your a nicer girlfriend and do what you are supposed to do, your boyfriend will want to be a fiancee...  I'll let you connect the dots there....

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Canon General / Re: So... Sony just dropped their Juggernaut!
« on: August 24, 2011, 11:01:48 PM »
So it's APS-C, and $1400, so going to compete against the 7D basically.
24MP vs 18MP win.
12fps vs 8fps win (even beating the 1D4 there).
GPS vs none win (but lose if you don't care and can't switch it off to save battery life).
50/60fps 1080p video win. (but only 28MBPS, up from 24MBPS in 24/25fps? more compression = bad?)
19pt AF/11cross vs 19pt/19cross lose (just on numbers, we'll see how well it works later).
In camera-panorama win if you like it, don't care if you'd rather stitch in-PC
Sensor-based IS win for old lenses, lose for battery life and heat.
ISO 50-25,600 (I always remember a TDP quote, just because you can, doesn't mean you should).
Selectable ISO range in AutoISO win (my mum's 6-year old IST *DL can, 550D too, why can't my 7D?)
5-frame AE bracketing win.
1200-zone metering win? 7D is 63-zone in viewfinder, not sure about in live-view.
30-1/8000s, 1/250s flash same.
Flash GN 12 (i think 7D is GN15?)
Buffer 13 JPG shots big lose (maybe blame the SD card?)
Battery life 400 shots viewfinder lose (7D is 1000 shots i believe).
Electronic viewfinder lose for me, battery life and dark-tracking main reasons. Depends if it's worth the extra 12FPS to you.

Ergonomics are always personal, and you'll learn to use what you've got after a few months. Personally, i'm sticking with my 7D. But yay for Sony, hopefully it's lit a fire under their 7Dmk2 development team, I expect nothing less that 28MP 9FPS 25ptAF for $1500 now.

Keep dreaming with your 7d2 expectations...  We still need to see IF the 24mp vs 18mp is truely a win if the image looks like crap.  Also can the 12FPS keep up with the AF and lock focus or does it just shoot a burst without AF change?  GPS i dont care about and 19 pt AF is where it should be... Other than that, no level, no flash commander... the 7d still shines on. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III & The Rest [CR2]
« on: August 24, 2011, 01:56:51 PM »
ok so lets all say its true any idea on pricing what do you guys think will be acceptable ? I'm hoping no more than £2000 uk sterling

$2999 would be nice. Hope the price would drop in 3-4 months to $2499. Kit bundle with 24-105 II IS USM for $3999 would be fantastic.

Anyone catch the price of the new A77?  It's competing against the 7d and is starting $300 less than the 7D MSRP... any chance this will force canon to lower prices on bodies?  Or is that wishful thinking?  FYI the 5d m2 started at 2699 but may have been higher or lower depending on store to store. 

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Canon General / Re: A77 : Is it a true SLR? What's the mirror for?
« on: August 24, 2011, 12:31:17 PM »
So, if the A77 has a purely electronic viewfinder, what's the mirror there for?

Just for the AF system? And if so, why is it half-silvered and not fully-silvered?

Thanks,

Martin

Kinda like the 7D... ?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III & The Rest [CR2]
« on: August 24, 2011, 12:20:13 PM »
the days of the 1d are over.
they are big, bulky, expensive, pointless and don't take better images.
the future leading canon DSLR's will be; a 7D, a 5D focussed on stills and a 5D focused on videography.
there is no need for another, larger, heavy camera in canons line-up. (possible exception of some 3D camera)

The days of the 1D isn't over, just the marketshare is now limited.  It's a different tool.  In extreme situations when you need a beast of a workhorse, the 1d is your tool.  For others who dont use cameras in such an extreme and volatile environment, the 5D and 7D may be perfect alternatives

Bornshooter, that was kinda over the top... 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III & The Rest [CR2]
« on: August 24, 2011, 11:02:49 AM »
I have said in prior posts I fully believed the 5d would come out BEFORE the 1d or 1ds.  The 5d mark ii crushed 1ds3 sales due to the same sensor, fraction of the cost... I believed canon learned their lesson, release the new 5d first, then after 6 months or so (after the initial rush and hype has settled a tad), come out with an even better 1ds that would make peoples mouths water... that way people have the incentive to buy the 5d AND the 1d, rather than just the 5d. 

shnookums, dont be so quick about saying canon has abandoned the pro shooters... I'm a pro shooter and frankly, for what I shoot, the 5d would be a better tool for me that the 1ds.  Yes I would love to have a 1d in my lineup, but the results and quality of the 5d to the 1d, in final output, to me, doesn't justify the price.  Then to some, such as large agencies and corporations, perhaps the 1ds is worth it.  In the end, as pro, we get paid to know how to best utilize our gear to provide the best photos possible to our clients, no?  Being pro doesn't mean you always shoot with the best gear.

I don't think it makes to come out with a 5D before a 1Ds. But anyway. I agree with you about the pro stuff. Being pro is not about the best gear. But I can't be pro if I can't take pictures. The 5D is useless for me, at least 30% of the time. I would never risk it. I would have to bring a 1D anyway even if I had a 5D around.

I understand it depends on your situation and environment.  For what it's worth i've taken my 7d out in blizzards and rain storms and had it handle just fine (not that i'd risk having it out in those conditions unnecessarily for too long) but if the new 5d gets the same or better weathersealing as the 7d, it could make many people second guess the ruggedness of the camera...

To me, as a photographer, I couldn't care less about what camera comes out first, selfishly i hope for the 5d first because I can utilize that first, but as someone thinking from canon's shoes, in this market, in this economy, and times, lets say they release the 5d first... people flock to the stores and order them, back orders occur... profits go up... then they go and release the 1d that is incredible... those who have bought the 5d's start second guessing... do they need the 5d or 1d or both... maybe they want the 1d so they sell the 5d used, buy the 1d... in canon's pocketbook, that's 2 purchases from 1 photographer rather than 1 purchase... With that in mind, it makes perfect sense, from a business perspective, to do the 5 first. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III & The Rest [CR2]
« on: August 24, 2011, 10:42:06 AM »
I have said in prior posts I fully believed the 5d would come out BEFORE the 1d or 1ds.  The 5d mark ii crushed 1ds3 sales due to the same sensor, fraction of the cost... I believed canon learned their lesson, release the new 5d first, then after 6 months or so (after the initial rush and hype has settled a tad), come out with an even better 1ds that would make peoples mouths water... that way people have the incentive to buy the 5d AND the 1d, rather than just the 5d. 

shnookums, dont be so quick about saying canon has abandoned the pro shooters... I'm a pro shooter and frankly, for what I shoot, the 5d would be a better tool for me that the 1ds.  Yes I would love to have a 1d in my lineup, but the results and quality of the 5d to the 1d, in final output, to me, doesn't justify the price.  Then to some, such as large agencies and corporations, perhaps the 1ds is worth it.  In the end, as pro, we get paid to know how to best utilize our gear to provide the best photos possible to our clients, no?  Being pro doesn't mean you always shoot with the best gear. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Getting a little bit Fed Up...
« on: August 24, 2011, 12:10:13 AM »
pancakeman... To be honest, I dont use Lightroom (or aperture for that matter) so I cant speak for their sharpening/raw processing methods.  i have used adobe raw in photoshop 4,5 and 5.5 which should be the same method?  It has always given me great results.  DPP is kinda cumbersome but it does save the different levels of all the camera settings in there so if you have it on a setting of 3 for instance, and you want it at 6, or visa versa, you can always go back in and change it without degrading your image. 

This question has been brought up several times on this forum over the least few years... This is such a delicate issue that I dont want to overwhelm you or give you wrong information, however as you know, with the 7D, it is going to point out every single issue with your lenses on a pixel level.  That being said, you appear to have some great lenses to put on them so i would first try some rough testing... Try at different lengths and micro adjust ALL your lenses (and test at shallow dof at telephoto...)  make sure the focus is spot on. 

If you have done that, make sure you are shooting at appropriate shutter speeds...  Since this sensor is sooo demanding of the lenses, try shooting a few shots of 2-3-4x the focal length of the lens... if not anything else but to rule out camera shake.  If that doesn't solve things, double check what you are focusing on... Since this is going to be sooo demanding on the lens, just the slightest bit off (and sometimes viewing in the viewfinder you may not be able to see if it's a hair off) Try single point or spot single point AF 1 shot AF... see if you cant nail focus.  My 7d gives me erratic results at zone AF so I usually just shoot the + (single point with 4 surrounding points) or the single or spot single... those are my best performers.  The + shines for me on al servo and motion photography.  If still no prevail and if the camera is under warranty, send it in to be checked... make sure it is to factory specs... If this doesn't help, let me know. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: canon dslr announcement news
« on: August 23, 2011, 06:03:42 PM »
i know ken rockwell is a penis that shoots jpeg but with the dates of previous releases and announcements he has a point.

Haha... interesting description of the nikon apologist... I do HOPE we hear more from canon this week...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Getting a little bit Fed Up...
« on: August 23, 2011, 06:02:13 PM »

P.S. Tried a 7D and it had most of the above but I found the images were softer than on my (wife's) 40D so I decided to wait.

Gotta turn the sharpness up on the presents. It does have a softness issue but it can be extremely sharp.
if you shoot raw then image settings for sharpness etc in camera has no effect.when you shoot in raw you have just that the raw image data untouched by the camera you have to process the image yourself sharpness contrast etc.
I shoot in RAW and it was my understanding that sharpness has no effect on RAW.  Maybe I'm wrong on that??


Well, honestly I don't know. I shoot RAW as well and the 7D is very sharp too me and I have the sharpness turned up. I know the contrast and saturation settings don't make a difference in the RAW file. Maybe sharpness doesn't either. White balance seems to matter though. I've got some time tonight, maybe I'll run a little experiment.

For what it's worth, on the 7D when you shoot raw, it uses the preset sharpness/saturation/etc settings you set in camera however when you get the raw, you can (in DPP) raise the sharpness or soften it, as well as all the other in camera presets... At times it can be unforgiving sharp however if you are taking zero'd out raw files and compare the same image taken on the 40D, with it's default settings, it could be seen as softer.  You shoot raw to get the best quality and have full control of all settings in post... so if you are shooting raw and not taking advantage of this, then you're not getting the most out of raw. 

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