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Lenses / Re: 24-85mm Lens?
« on: January 02, 2013, 08:24:58 PM »
Did the EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS cease to exist while I wasn't looking?

It still exists.  It's mid-range.  And it's pretty affordable.  But somehow people are being "turned off by the 6D" because this lens doesn't exist.  How strange.  ???

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Lenses / Re: Making the most out of a 50 1.2?
« on: December 24, 2012, 03:29:16 PM »
+1.  Do what bdunbar79 wrote.  Enjoy!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Shooting With the EOS 6D in Costa Rica
« on: December 24, 2012, 03:12:36 AM »
I shoot with the Canon products, a 5D Mark III to be exact.  I also shoot with their professional camcorders.  That being said, I have to say that as a former Nikon user, the Nikon cameras provided a much sharper shot.  Don't get me wrong, I love my Mark III but honestly, it leaves me wanting more.  There are many cameras out there that are arguably better.  The Canon 6D is not one of those cameras.  That's not to suggest that it is a bad camera but, it is not better.  The picture taken in Costa Rica that was posted is not a very good picture in terms of quality.  The composition is good but the quality is typical of what I have seen from non-professional users.  More specifically, the picture lacks sharpness throughout and for whatever reason is not properly focused; however this is probably due to user error and not a deficiency within the camera.

This is more properly called viewer error, not user error.  The photo is perfectly focused on the child.  Exif indicates the photo was shot at f/2.8, so the background is understandably out of focus.

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Lenses / Re: Announcement on January 8, 2013? New Lenses [CR1]
« on: December 23, 2012, 09:50:36 PM »
The 50/1.2L stands out in the EF lens line, not for its sharpness, but for the beautiful way in which it draws, especially in the f/1.2 to f/2.8 range.  Canon obviously designed it with a certain look in mind.

Are you saying Canon designed the 50L not to be sharp but instead to get a 'certain look'? I really doubt Canon would design an L prime with sharpness NOT their top priority... if what you're saying is indeed the case, then I wonder what the Canon engineers had in mind when they designed the 24mm 1.4 Mk I?

Now, if Canon is indeed planning to release a 35mm MkII and 14-24mm f2.8 they better make sure making them tack sharp is their main priority.
I'm not saying they designed it "not to be sharp".  As I mentioned, it tests very sharp.  It's just not as sharp as the 85/1.2L or the 200/2L.  Sharpness is just one goal for a lens designer.  It isn't the only goal.  A lot of goals come to together in a lens design. 

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Lenses / Re: Announcement on January 8, 2013? New Lenses [CR1]
« on: December 23, 2012, 09:26:24 PM »
Ummm can we get back to talkin about 14-24 and 35s? This 50L talk is ruining our fun!
Sure thing, now that I've commented on that "crap" lens.  :)

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Lenses / Re: Announcement on January 8, 2013? New Lenses [CR1]
« on: December 23, 2012, 09:19:04 PM »
And the 50/1.2 L is a sub-par piece of cr*p as well by todays standards. A Sigma 50/1.4 runs circles around it. 
Crap may be too strong a word, but I agree the 50L is not good value for money. I dare anyone to put it in their top 5 best primes (super teles excluded) if their life depended on it. I mean, my top 5 would be 100mm f2.8L IS Macro, 135mm f2, 85mm f1.2, 24mm II TS-E, 35mm f1.4.

The 50/1.2L stands out in the EF lens line, not for its sharpness, but for the beautiful way in which it draws, especially in the f/1.2 to f/2.8 range.  Canon obviously designed it with a certain look in mind.  It is easily my most-used prime and the last L prime that I would sell.  The 24L, 35L, 85L, 100L and 135L are all exquisitely good, but not as useful for me.  And it tests pretty well for sharpness.  In LensRentals.com's "The Great 50mm Shootout", the 50L tested better for sharpness than Nikon, Sigma and Zeiss 50mm lenses, though not quite as high as two Leica 50mm lenses.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Is it hard not to buy 3rd party lenses now?
« on: December 23, 2012, 11:41:30 AM »
Your "L" lenses are so good that Canon will only provide warranty for 1 year.

Tamron will provide warranty for 6 years.

It is good to see that Canon back up their excellent build quality with a warranty to match, isn't it?

The length of warranty period tells me what the manufacturer expects from the product they make.

Third party manufacturers have to offer something extra, such as extra warranty time.  Warranties only protect against manufacturing defects, not against wear from usage.  If you don't discover a defect in the first year of use, you're not likely to discover it ever.  Manufacturing defects like decentering, faulty autofocus, bad contacts, etc., are usually evident within the first month of use.

The way Tamron assembles their 24-70, with three tiny bits of glue holding the second element, tells me a lot about their build quality, notwithstanding their generous warranty — http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/09/tamron-24-70-f2-8-vc-issue

Also, read here how Tamron refused warranty repair on a one year old lens (claiming "impact damage"), despite the 6 year warranty —
http://www.sportsshooter.com/message_display.html?tid=22780

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Is it hard not to buy 3rd party lenses now?
« on: December 23, 2012, 11:26:44 AM »
The Sigma 50mm f/1.4 does exist for a while now. Aren't those reviews made at the beginning of the release of the Sigma? Later on the production models improved. I own the Sigma bought it in 2010 and it does not have focus problems though granted its IQ is less on my 5D MKIII than on my 7D
A quick look at the reviews on B&H finds complaints about autofocus as late as August and September of 2012, so those were not made at the beginning of the release (2008?).  On Amazon, there are customer complaints about autofocus as late as October and November of 2012.  Of course the Canon 50/1.4 still gets complaints about its autofocus many years after its release.  The manufacture of these lenses may be getting better over time, but without some evidence, this idea about improvement may just be wishful thinking.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Is it hard not to buy 3rd party lenses now?
« on: December 22, 2012, 07:29:51 PM »
In the last 12 to 24 months we've seen an array of new lenses from Tamron and Sigma that seem to be laying down the gauntlet to Canon/Nikon in the area of providing good IQ that perhaps started with the 50/1.4 from Sigma. Why the Sigma 50/1.4? Because it tests better than both the Canon and Nikon equivalents albeit, it is more expensive however when Canon replaces the 50/1.4 with a 50/1.4 IS, the Sigma will be cheaper.
I was reading up on the Sigma 50/1.4 recently.  The review on The Digital Picture (TDP) and reviews by some customers on B&H were somewhat disappointing.  I'm referring to the comments about autofocus consistency (and the Canon 50/1.4 is no champ in this either). 

TDP says, "Inconsistent focus accuracy is definitely the downside of this lens. It is possible that another copy of this lens would focus more consistently, but my guess (helped by feedback from others) is that my lens is representative of this model. Thus, unless you are primarily using manual focus or shooting at narrow apertures (f/4), I suggest buying the Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM Lens instead."

The ISO12233 chart crops on TDP suggest that the Sigma is a bit sharper, but the Imatest results in LensRentals.com's "Great 50mm Shootout" suggest that the Canon 50/1.4 is a bit sharper.  Imatest results on Photozone.de also suggest that the Canon is mostly sharper.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 11:29:29 AM »
What confuses me is the way people always find something to complain about. 3 months ago everybody was saying "This is ridiculous, please lower the price," now fast forward a few weeks and people are complaining that Canon did exactly what everyone asked - lowered the price!
It's pretty funny — they get nasty complaints even when doing exactly what people want.  "I'm so pissed off ... the price is too high!" followed a few months later by "I'm so pissed off ... the price came down!"

And Canon wins no thanks at all ... zip ... zero ... for lowering the price of the 5D2 to a rock bottom fire sale low.  Remember when we were hoping and praying to see a full frame camera under $2,000?  The 5D2 is now more affordable than ever at $1,600.  It wasn't too long ago that some APS-C cameras cost more than that.  That's a big win for anyone looking to get their first full-frame.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 03:27:04 AM »
... as Nikon's decrease seems more in line than the extortion-like routine that Canon pulled.
It's really nothing like extortion.  That's over the top too, though not as over the top as the OP's "screwing without lube" comment.

I hope everyone who is complaining about the price drops now will come back here to applaud Canon when prices go up.  Like, "Woohoo, prices are UP!  Glad that cost cutting is over!"  When, for whatever reason — seasonal sales ending, exchange rates, inflation, shortages, increased supply costs, etc. — prices go up 10, 20 or 30%, ... will you start a thread about how rational, sensible, fair, happiness-inducing and loyalty-rewarding the new pricing strategy is?  ;)

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: The seemingly amazing Sigma 35
« on: December 21, 2012, 01:48:11 AM »
I was playing around with my friend's Sigma 35 and it's a toy compared to the 35L. Aside from the difference in bokeh, I also found the Sigma wasn't as sharp as the L. Shot both lenses on the 5D3 and 5D2. I can't really say anything about build quality in the case of the 35L because it's barrel is plastic... although it still seems a slightly more robust (better plastic composition). Has sigma ever produced lens elements that are optically superior to the glass in L lenses?
Are you talking about the new Sigma 35mm f/1.4 DG HSM "Art" lens?  The one that's bigger and heavier than the Canon 35L?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 01:43:11 AM »
Canon, like most companies markup their prices for those who must have the latest gadget first.  After those people are ripped off the prices slowly start to come down and are aimed at the consumers waiting for a deal.
That's just the way the technology business is.  Buy the big screen TV that just came out and you pay full price.  Buy the one that came out last year and you get a discount.  It's variable pricing over time.  As prices come down, they attract new buyers with smaller budgets.  Is this news to anyone?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 01:31:23 AM »
Why is Canon seemingly actively screwing over it's buyers with insane price cuts, and equally insane introductory mark ups? The only reason I can come up with is that they want to lose customers and lose credibility.

It's pretty ironic when people complain about prices going down.  Some people are never happy. 

Prices go down = they complain that Canon is screwing its customers ("they're cutting prices! — what a terrible company!")
Prices go up = they complain that Canon is screwing its customers  ("they're jacking up prices! — what a terrible company!")
Prices stay the same = they complain that Canon is screwing its customers ("when will prices come down?! — what a terrible company!")

Canon makes some great stuff.  Some items I've bought at full price because I needed them right away, and very happy that I did.  They were too good & useful to wait for.  No regrets.  Other items I bought when prices came down, and very happy that I did.  Again, no regrets.  The cool thing is that while they make great stuff, they don't force you to buy anything.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: right now i am not happy to be a canon user
« on: December 20, 2012, 04:17:01 PM »
Canon keeps lowering prices ...
- 5DIII is 15% less than when it was introduced
- 5DII is 40% less than when it was introduced
- 7D is 28% less than when it was introduced
- 60D is 30% less than when it was introduced
... but does anyone acknowledge or give them credit for that?  A manufacturer can't win no matter what they do.  If prices go down, people take it as proof that they were overpriced in the first place, and complain about the loss of resale value.  If prices go up, people blame them for starting to overprice.  And if prices stay the same, people complain that prices don't go down.

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