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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 1DX vs. EOS 5D MARK III for Weddings,
« on: August 23, 2012, 07:17:23 PM »
Wrong.  I shoot tennis for a Division II college.  The players can hear the shutter because you are THAT close in those instances.  This isn't Wimbeldon.  Again, don't generalize for every sports shooter.  Of course I can go stand in the parking lot with a 200 f/2L lens with a 1DX, but if I am allowed to get much closer, I'm going to.  The silent shutter on the 5D3 is GREAT for these matches.
My point wasn't really whether or not they could hear you. I'm sure they can at times. But in my opinion, tennis players just have to accept shutter sounds and learn not to be distracted by them. If they ever reach pro level, they will be hearing that sound over and over again. I don't think there's any etiquette in tennis requiring absolute silence like in golf. Having said that, I am aware of players complaining, but it's extremely rare. They better learn  to get used to it instead.

Presumably, if you're photographing a sport, it's at least in part because you enjoy watching the athletes perform at their best.

Would you rather watch (and photograph) the athletes actually at their best, or would you rather watch (and photograph) athletes pissed off at you because you're annoying them with your machine-gun-sounding camera?

And which photographer do you think the athlete will prefer working with for an off-the-court photo shoot: the one whom they didn't even notice during the match, or the one whose camera made a really annoying braaaaaaap sound every time a critical point came up?

Cheers,

b&

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is so true.  I care about the athletes, because I was once a college athlete and I'm not going to be an ass and machine-gun shoot the tennis match, especially serving.  The 1DX's shutter is a machine gun.  The 1D Mark IV is also better/quieter, to a degree.  You develop many relationships with athletes and parents off the tennis court, or playing field, or what have you, in Division II sports.  I think of them first, not which camera I'm using.  I guess I'm good enough that I don't NEED the 1DX to get the tennis shots I want?  Again, the 5D3 is great for tennis, just great.

cliffec, I'm not trying to be rude to you, I'm really not.  I'm just sharing my personal perspective and how I choose to photograph different sports and why.  Even if I'm being given money, I'm still a guest at the venue.  That's all.

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Lenses / Re: Canon 200-400 lens - Post Olympics
« on: August 23, 2012, 05:33:02 PM »
I got tired of waiting and bought a 400 f2.8 prime instead...

That lens is actually still going to be better than any 200-400L they will produce. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 1DX vs. EOS 5D MARK III for Weddings,
« on: August 23, 2012, 04:55:09 PM »
Oh -- and, if you're shooting for Sports Illustrated but you're shooting golf or tennis, you'd again be a fool to go with a 1D X over a 5DIII (because of shutter sound).

True about golf, but shutter sound is barely of any importance in tennis. At least if you are shooting as a professional. As an amateur, silent shutter can be useful at times - but mainly to not annoy other spectators if you shoot very close to them. The drawback is the drop in FPS of course.

Wrong.  I shoot tennis for a Division II college.  The players can hear the shutter because you are THAT close in those instances.  This isn't Wimbeldon.  Again, don't generalize for every sports shooter.  Of course I can go stand in the parking lot with a 200 f/2L lens with a 1DX, but if I am allowed to get much closer, I'm going to.  The silent shutter on the 5D3 is GREAT for these matches. 

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Canon General / Re: Adorama issues anyone? Ever try to return a product?
« on: August 23, 2012, 12:18:18 PM »
- Next thing I realized, for NJ, you pay sales tax! That's like another extra $400, bam, right there it hit me.

Ummm...you do realize that you're legally obligated to pay the NJ Sales and Use Tax on those Amazon purchases, right?  From NJ Pub ANJ-7: "Out-of-State Purchases Delivered to New Jersey. When taxable goods and services are purchased in another state and delivered to New Jersey for use in New Jersey, no credit is allowed for sales tax paid to the other state. Use tax is due at the rate of 7% of the purchase price, including delivery charges.

You're supposed to declare such purchases and remit the tax to the State, either separetely within 20 days or on your state income tax return.  Bam, right there.  Just sayin'.

Nah uhhhhh!!! I don't gotta pay no sales tax on the internet!

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 1DX vs. EOS 5D MARK III for Weddings,
« on: August 23, 2012, 12:13:44 PM »
You won't be wanting to shoot collegiate tennis up close with a 1DX either.  5D Mark III for that.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 1DX vs. EOS 5D MARK III for Weddings,
« on: August 22, 2012, 11:22:46 PM »
For your uses, it doesn't really matter.  If you're a good photographer, the images will look identical.  Probably no need to pay for the extra AF features of the 1DX.  However, it also depends on how you shoot your weddings.  If you do it from a more photojournalistic style, I knew guys who did them with 1D Mark IV's with great success.  So in that case the 1DX would probably make it easier on you.

Either camera will do just fine though.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specs? [CR1]
« on: August 22, 2012, 11:09:40 PM »
We have a 5D II and a 7D, and although the 7D doesn't have the resolution or low light capability of the 5D II, its in camera speed is unmatched.  The 5D II feels so sluggish after using the 7D.  I am excited about a 7D II that would have 24mp sensor and still great speed.  Even if it is far above the current 7D price point.  It would never replace the 5 series to us, but the pair make for fantastic shoots.  If the 7D II is for real, we will be looking to but both the new 7 and the 5D III this spring.

Realistically I'd think a 7D Mark II (not likely) or a 70D (more likely) would go behind the 5D Mark III, much like the 7D went behind the 5D Mark II in 2009, in level and price.  A higher MP camera will go between the 1DX and 5D Mark III.  I don't see APS-H on the horizon.

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If you can still buy them new now, and you really want one, now is the time to buy.  I wouldn't want to be buying used in 2 years.  Get one new now for a really low price.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« on: August 22, 2012, 10:53:34 PM »
I agree, the 5D Mark III could have had better DR.  That's the shortcoming I see and can understand.  Historically though, the 1Ds line has had that, and we sort of lost that with the 1DX and again I'll say, the 1DX doesn't replace the 1Ds3 at all.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 3D X [CR1]
« on: August 22, 2012, 10:49:33 PM »
However this camera turns out, 5D3 owners will be burned.

Not if it has the same old DR (i.e. not close to low ISO Nikon or MF), much slower fps, no chance for magic lantern, costs a lot more. You'd get better reach and detail but give up a lot since Canon won't give it cropped modes with speed or stay at a more reasonable 36MP to keep some speed and doesn't seem to have the sensor tech to deliver top quality low ISO pixels. I'd rather keep the 5D3 and wait for a 5D4 or D900 myself.
Of course, who knows, maybe they finally spring their miracle new sensor with this or it does have fast crops modes or better fps (46MP dual digic should go 4.7fps not 3.7fps and it could hit 6fps if they cut MP down a little).


EDIT: OK i misread the rumor, it mentions industry leading LOW ISO so forget what I wrote above. If it has industry leading low ISO DR and 46MP it will be a landscape and studio beast!  ;D

Yes, 5D3 owners will be burned. :-X

Burned?  Why?  Just b/c a better camera comes out doesn't make the one I have worse does it?  I'm a 5D3 owner and I don't want a 46 MP camera.  I don't want a 36 MP camera.  I want a 22 MP camera with a great AF system.  There's a reason I kept my 5D Mark III and sold my 1Ds Mark III. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Anyone else preorder the EOS M yet?
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:59:47 PM »
I was going to but I'm disciplining myself to keep a specialized kit for what I do

(In my head:  I promise I won't buy the EOS-M, I promise I won't buy the 24-70L II, I promise I won't buy the 24-70L II...........unless I save up for it, I promise I won't buy the EOS-M).

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EOS Bodies / Re: Shooting leveled landscape pictures
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:39:42 PM »
I too have only used the LCD one and not the viewfinder one. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1DX VS 5D MKIII Cameras
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:37:52 PM »
I've done enough tests now that I can say the 1DX's advantage is clearly the AF accuracy.  I did another baby photo shoot last Tuesday, and I took both and slapped on the 85 f/1.2L II.  I purposefully didn't use flash on a couple shots and took 10 shots of the baby's face, in low light, spot metering off the face.  It was dark enough auto ISO gave 6400 on the 5D3 and 5000 on the 1DX.  The 5D Mark III had 5/10 slightly out of focus.  So then I used the 1DX, did the same thing, and all 10 were in focus.  I was very happy with the test results.  Not with the 1DX per se, but the results showed a pretty clear factor regarding AF.  The 1DX seems to AF easier in lower light than the 5D Mark III, in this test.  The 5/10 shots from the 5D3 were not keepers, and all of the 1DX shots were clear winners.  IQ was no different.

Let me convert a few to jpeg and I'll demonstrate.  Be back tonight.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What would you do?
« on: August 22, 2012, 04:40:45 PM »
Sorry I misunderstood.  My apologies.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 1DX VS 5D MKIII Cameras
« on: August 22, 2012, 04:39:54 PM »
Yes, you empty headed animal, food throp whopper!!

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