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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 5dc, better than T1i?
« on: August 12, 2012, 11:07:29 AM »
Just feeling a bit curious about upgrading (or in this case "downgrading") my Canon T1i.

I love my T1i to death, but I grown to dislike the noise at around ISO 800 and with a kit lens, I've found myself constantly having to push that high.

Many people say that I should get a better lens like the Canon 28mm 1.8 or Canon 17-55 2.8 but I do want to go FF some time in my life and I don't want to buy EF-S lenses seeing that will put me further away from purchasing a FF camera. (By that time, Canon would release the Canon 5d Mark IV x) I also don't want to buy EF lenses because I feel like they aren't used to their full potential on a Crop body.

Talking to my girlfriend's mother, who is a photographer, made me think about something. She's had a Canon XTi ever since it was first released. She never upgraded her body, yet she still is able to produce fantastic images from her camera.

I thought, What if I bought a used Canon 5D Classic now and build up my EF lens collection so by the time I can actually upgrade to a modern FF, I'd have a great collection of EF lenses.

I was looking at the specs for a 5Dc and it's really perfect for what I do. I'm not a sports photographer whatsoever. I prefer to do landscapes and portraits. I love the photos that come from a FF body. I like that the usable ISO for the 5Dc is WAY higher than my T1i. I'm not into DSLR filming anymore so I don't need a video mode in my camera. A used 5D is about the same as a T3i. An On-Camera flash isn't needed because I have a Canon 430ex II. I feel more safer having a better build quality.

Do you think my want for a 5Dc is complete sane? or is the 5Dc not a viable option anymore.

If you can get one in that price range, then no, you're absolutely fine.  Has anybody considered a used 1Ds Mark II?  You can get those for $900-$1000, although if you got a 5Dc for $500 well, let's not be stupid :)   

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Lenses / Re: Which 3 Primes to go for. Your advice will be appreciated
« on: August 12, 2012, 10:59:27 AM »
Hmm, this is a fun question.  If I could only keep 3 of my primes, my answer would be different because I have so many.  I'll never part with my 24L.  I will part with my 35L and 50L if I buy the new 24-70L II.  I won't part with my 85L, nor my 135L.  Going beyond that requires more specialized shooting, so I'd say I'd keep a 24L, 85L, and 135L.  Expensive lineup for sure, but let's just pretend you could get them at Walmart.

Out of all of my primes, I'd keep the 24L, 85L, and 200L.  IMO, the 300 and up lenses you just can't count, because anybody needing those will already be so specialized.  If a 200-400L zoom lens comes out though, boy that would be interesting.

Can I just buy 3 of the 24L's and count that?  ;D :D :)

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Lenses / Re: Owning the Canon 200-400 f/4L Vs 400 f/2.8L II
« on: August 12, 2012, 10:32:46 AM »
Is anyone here serious about buying the 200-400 if we see a release in the next few weeks?

Absolutely.  I do a ton of shooting from a Kayak with 300mm f2.8.  I carry a second body and a TC for shorter and longer focal distances.  I would LOVE to have that versatility all in one lens and not have to swap bodies or lenses while rocking in a boat. 

I have said it before:  I would sell my 300f2.8 and 600f4 to fund this lens if the IQ is comparable at 300mm and 560mm.  The only thing that would hold me back is if the IQ doesn't deliver....

Well when I'm shooting sports I have to bring 200, 300, and 400 primes.  Heck yes I'd buy one or two! :)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX vs 5D3
« on: August 12, 2012, 10:30:19 AM »
I was not able to do any comparison since these photos are not keepers.  I was just curious as to how well the 5D3 could focus in very low light.  To give you an idea, I had my flash set to the right and ISO was still 8000.  The only real way to know is to take both cameras to a sporting event indoors and shoot AI Servo and get a feel for it.  Although I agree, the 1DX focusing is amazing.  The focusing on the 5D3 is tremendously better than the 5D2.

I will do this experiment again.  Next time I will have a portable light on one side at least, and fill flash on the part of the sink that is more vacant.  Manual focus where the drop will hit, and do a 6 fps burst on the 5D3 and 12fps burst on the 1DX.  It will be fun to see if there are any additional parts of the splash recorded by the 1DX vs the 5D3.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX vs 5D3
« on: August 12, 2012, 12:58:01 AM »
This one may have focused on the drop area a bit better.  Again, I couldn't see well at all, but at least the AF found something and locked, unlike the 5D Mark II.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX vs 5D3
« on: August 12, 2012, 12:50:51 AM »
This was the shot I was speaking of; AF in near dark conditions, 600EX-RT at 1/8000second, f/4.  Since I couldn't see very well, I doubt I was focused where the drop hit.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX vs 5D3
« on: August 11, 2012, 11:53:03 PM »
@bdunbar79: did you get to do the macro shots and the sports shots that you were talking about?
Or did you leave the matter, after deciding on keeping the 1DX'es for the sports shooting  :)
Actually, I did not leave the matter.  As nightbreath is likely impatient with me as well, I have had nothing but rain and wind here the last 5 days.  I wouldn't think anyone would really value any tests in those situations :)  Yes I will have ample opportunity this week to shoot outdoors, macro and action, at low ISO.
I wasn't trying to be impatient, just wondering if you left it or not. As written in another thread, I'm considering how the 5D3 works for sports shooting, since getting proper AF for sports is the one point I've had problems with. So any feedback on how the AF tracking performs on the 5D3 is highly appreciated.
If you come back and tell me it stinks and the 1DX rocks, I just have to go and kill myself somewhere quietly ;)

I may be itching to get a new body, but my fingers are not twitching just yet so I don't have a problem waiting a week for your research.

Thanks again.

Well, I can tell you this.  The AF on the 5D Mark III, that I just tested out tonight, is pretty brilliant.  I had it in one shot and was shooting water drops hitting water with green food coloring in it.  The cup with watter under the faucet was pretty much in the dark, as I was using a flash and the AF still nailed the edge of the cup/water edge at the brim of the cup.  So at least we know it focuses brilliantly in very low light.  Obviously I didn't need it in AI Servo, so that'll yet to be seen.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX vs 5D3
« on: August 11, 2012, 10:13:46 PM »
@bdunbar79: did you get to do the macro shots and the sports shots that you were talking about?
Or did you leave the matter, after deciding on keeping the 1DX'es for the sports shooting  :)

I really appreciate all your work on this.

Actually, I did not leave the matter.  As nightbreath is likely impatient with me as well, I have had nothing but rain and wind here the last 5 days.  I wouldn't think anyone would really value any tests in those situations :)  Yes I will have ample opportunity this week to shoot outdoors, macro and action, at low ISO.  Forecast looks good.  And I thought from my tests the 1DX is more than good enough, so I went with those for sports and keep a 5D3 as well.  I still am curious about detail vs. detail though, at low ISO's and I hope to gain information regarding that this week.  I will give the RAW's to another gentleman on here, and then let him do the exact same post-processing on each (I'll be doing the processing of many photos while I'll give him one each of each camera's).  Stay tuned!

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HDR - High Dynamic Range / Re: Post your HDR images:
« on: August 11, 2012, 06:46:23 PM »
Classic photos!  Thank you very much for posting how you do your HDR editing.  I'd like to bookmark that and do a few.  Thanks!

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Black & White / Re: Black & White
« on: August 11, 2012, 06:16:38 PM »
5D Mark III

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HDR - High Dynamic Range / Re: Post your HDR images:
« on: August 11, 2012, 06:06:10 PM »
You guys are killin' me with this stuff.  I may just have to break out the HDR mode on my 5D Mark III just to get used to it.  I'm not ready for the HDR in post stuff yet  :P

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Roger Cicala on Canon Autofocus Reality
« on: August 11, 2012, 06:01:16 PM »
I agree to an extent.  However, obsolete technology or not, how on earth can it be worth to spend $7200 and $11,400 on the new 300mm and 400mm lenses respectively, when you can get BOTH like-new used version I's for $9500 and the IQ and AF is no different at all?  What are you really paying for?  I've shot with both versions of the 300mm and the version 2 had absolutely no higher hit rate, sharpness, or IQ for sports.  Definitely not worth it in my mind.  It is certainly lighter but is it worth $2500 more for weight?

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1D X Sample Images / Re: San Francisco Zoo
« on: August 11, 2012, 05:49:41 PM »
Fantastic shots!!

I was NOT so lucky with my hummingbird shot.  I looked out the kitchen window this morning and saw a hummingbird zigging and zagging about.  I had the 1DX and 24-105L lens in my kitchen, but nothing else.  And, it was POURING outside.  So I aimed and fired out the kitchen window, thru the glass, and you have to admit that despite the mediocre image, this was a true verification of the AF system on the 1D X.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1Dx desire (A cautious approach)
« on: August 11, 2012, 11:55:56 AM »
For years, I have long held the view that extreme beauty is unattainable and there is often a sting in the tail. Beauty is expensive. Beauty only lasts so long. I took my time getting to know a lesser beauty, in the form of the 5D MkIII. I got to know as much about her as I could, before takinh the plunge, making sure she was the one for me. So far, I haven't been disappointed, she's responsive, without being flighty and loves it when it gets dark, when she really likes to have her button pressed. She's also very quiet when we need to be discreet. A match made in heaven.

Vs. the 5D Mark III I cannot crop as much.  That's the only downside.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EOS 7D Body Package Deal from B&H $1349
« on: August 11, 2012, 10:43:54 AM »
It will certainly come down when the new APS-C camera is released.  Who knows what type of camera that will be, but you can rest assured the 7D price will drop.

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