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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX ISO 12,800 real-life test
« on: August 06, 2012, 12:31:20 PM »
I'm really liking both cameras.  They make my 1Ds3 and 1D4 look bad.  I am keeping a 1DX and 5D3 and selling my 1Ds3 and 1D4.  I just am so ecstatic regarding the color rendition and ISO performance of both cameras.  I'll have to say good job to Canon on both cameras.  Isn't it amazing that ISO 12,800 really is nothing to either camera?  So cool.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX ISO 12,800 real-life test
« on: August 06, 2012, 11:30:38 AM »
No you're right, there are artifacts from the compression, which I hate.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1DX ISO 12,800 real-life test
« on: August 06, 2012, 10:31:48 AM »
Nope, not jpeg.  I shot that in RAW with a 24-105 f/4L lens, f/8, 1/100s, ISO 12,800.  I wasn't allowed to use a flash.  I imported as RAW, saved to jpeg.  I then took the RAW and applied 80 NR, saved to jpeg.  The colors look spectactular out of the camera with the 1DX.  I'm very pleased with it so far. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III
« on: August 05, 2012, 10:19:44 PM »
I think we will also need some example 1DX vs. 1Ds Mark III landscape shots.  Can the 1DX match it at landscape photography?  If not, I'd have no hesitation keeping a 1Ds3 in my kit, but I'm guessing the 1DX will do pretty well against it. 

Lenses / Re: Lens Recomendation
« on: August 05, 2012, 10:04:02 PM »
Thanks for everyones feedback, I am going to get the 5Diii as the body, seems that the 24-70 f2.8 may be not be available for a little while anyway.

I did the 5D Mark III with 24-105L kit for my first 5D Mark III.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / 1DX ISO 12,800 real-life test
« on: August 05, 2012, 09:46:03 PM »
Here is no NR and NR 80 in ACR ISO 12,800 cropped quite a bit:

EOS Bodies - For Stills / 1DX burst rate test
« on: August 05, 2012, 09:22:46 PM »
I shot high burst rate mode this evening of some kids throwing grapes at each other.  I chose 4 photos, two of the thrower and 2 of the throwee if you will.  She missed but oh well.  The third photo, the grape is at the top of the frame.  Even 1/1000s was too slow, but it was evening shade light with no real way to increase the shutter speed.  It was just a test.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Sports and posters
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:27:04 PM »
Thanks for the thorough responses guys.  I REALLY apprciate it.  Thank you!  I have a lot to go over and think about here, and also some testing to do. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Big Megapixels Coming Soon? [CR1]
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:23:10 PM »
I agree with everything you said except, The 5D Mark II actually DID steal ground from the 1Ds Mark III.  That is a well-known fact.  I even bought the 5D Mark II instead back then, because it was cheaper and had the same resolution.  Most of the pros I knew from 2008-current never owned a 1Ds3 simply because of the 5D Mark II.

A lot of 1DS3 were sold - but to a relatively small market niche

However the 5D2 filled another market and sold like hot cakes. Some pros bought it purely from a ROI point of view rather than for IQ.

Whilst the 5D2 had the same mps it lost out significantly on fps, colour rendition and AF.

There are a lot of 1DS3 on the used market now - showing that it did sell

I agree it sold.  It was too specific though, whereas the 5D2 was well rounded.  The problem with the 1Ds3 was it was much harder to shoot weddings thoroughly vs. the 5D2.  Almost every wedding photographer I knew 2008-current got the 5D2 and passed on the 1Ds3.  However, I feel that the 1Ds3 is the ultimate landscape camera.  Ultimate.
Given that i have the 5d1 and the fact that the focus system on the 5d2 was identicle, id say i would shoot a wedding with a 1dsm3 way before the 5dm2 for focus points alone. Saving time composing with center point and then re-composing would be worth it alone. On another note the 1dsm3 had a higher level of sharp detail hence why it is an incredible landscape camera.

You'd shoot a wedding with a 1Ds3?  Haha, ok, good luck.  Better bring a ton of portable lighting.

EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III
« on: August 05, 2012, 07:19:49 PM »
FPS, AF, ISO, Settings, so many of them etc, auto ISO etc, silent Shutter is amazing, Multiple exposures, just the general feel is so nice, I honestly loved the 1DS 3 before I had this in my hands, without a doubt I am so happy I made this choice its the right one, there's just so many options to this camera, its like it has everything you need, 22mps, is way enough generally, even HDR will have its uses and I hate HDR shots, but I know it could help if shooting interiors etc, its a move forward, also buffer time, its quick, the 1DS 3 is terribly slow if you turn on Iso NR, its a great camera..

I agree overall.  However, go shoot in tungsten lighting and tell me what color your shadows are on the 5D3 and then on the 1Ds3.  Then try to change the color in post.  It's not too kind.  This is a big problem with the 5D3.  Incidentally it's the only problem I've found, but quite irritating when the whole f'ing room is GREEN even while shooting in the correct white balance/temp.  I couldn't even fix a lot of them, the shadows I could not get rid of the green hue, especially in the folds of people's eyes and arms.  The 1DX and 1Ds3 get it right.

EOS Bodies / Re: Understanding AF on the new 650d
« on: August 05, 2012, 01:46:35 PM »
Here's a question.  I'm a low-tech guy.  (I'm a chemist for crying out loud).  In order to enjoy the types of AF sensors and points on any camera, do you have to active them first?  In other words, can I enjoy all the cross-type sensors if I only have center AF point selected?  Or are the AF points themselves independent?  I like just doing my shooting with center AF even in sports, but I need to take advantage of the AF accuracy of the 1DX.  Thanks!

Has some one tested that old sensor cleaning trick with 5D mkIII and found it working?

In my 50D latest firmware update disabled that sensor cleaning trick. Sensor cleaning trick will not remap hot not stuck pixels anymore  :'( 

I think that Canon had took that feature out and only way to fix hot or stuck pixels is to send camera to service center.

I am planning to buy 5D mkIII and it would be good if broken pixels could be repaired without sending camera to service center.

If you just purchased the 5D3 and it's still under warranty, service center is free.

EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III
« on: August 05, 2012, 01:17:50 PM »
I am leaning towards lower ISO's higher quality files, I have a 5 Mark II, its nice does decent up 1600, 3200 requires careful attention to exposure but it leaves me wanting a better ISO 100. Landscapes and portraits are my bigger concern. Color rendition is important also.
Thank you to the two people that have taken the time to give thoughtful and detailed responses.

Ok, I see your situation now.  If you keep your 5D Mark II, you'll notice a drastic, and very noticeable improvement in color rendition, accuracy, saturation, at ISO 50-400 in the 1Ds3 over the 5D2.  I shoot the 1Ds3 in Portrait mode, and I just absolutely love it.  It's pretty magical in those ISO ranges and I have not observed any banding in the shadows yet.  So yeah, you'd have your range covered with the 1Ds3/5D2 combo. 

The other thing is the metering accuracy of the 1Ds3 over the 5D2.  When I import RAW files the camera got it exactly right, whereas I cannot say this for when I owned the 5D2. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Need Help, 1 DsIII vs 5d mark III
« on: August 05, 2012, 01:13:09 PM »
Some really great condition 1ds III's are coming out for sale about the same price of a new 5 dIII and I wanted some advice on weather its better to get the older pro camera or the newer mid range camera. Does anyone have some good advice?

I wanted to just give you an example that I had to consider.  This year I will only be doing Ashland U sports.  Period.  So I have to follow the law of specificity unfortunately.  The 1Ds3 is a very neat toy, but I can't use it.  I'll have a 1DX, 1D4, and 5D3 (for tennis and golf) in my kit.  I'd love to keep the 1Ds3 and maybe buy Canon's new megapickel camera in two years, but I can't justify it and I have no reason to do so.  The other reason, besides a queiter shutter at tennis and golf, I'm keeping the 5D3 is that I will still do weddings.  Again, unfortunately, the 1Ds3 will lose out here to the 5D3.  So really, I'd consider it's strengths and weaknessed and what you'll be using each for, and what you need, before purchasing.  I think Brian uses the 1Ds3 quite a bit indoors but he has a lot of lighting in his kit.  My combos will be 1DX/1D4 sports, 5D3 tennis/golf, 1DX/5D3 weddings.  I'd love to exploit a few other cameras but I just can't justify it.  If someone  would only pay me to shoot whatever I wanted................ ;D

Lenses / Re: Another help me pick a lens yay...35L or 24-105L
« on: August 05, 2012, 01:05:14 PM »
He asks the question, should I get the 35L (which I LOVE!) or the 24-105L?  Remember, he loves the 35L on his camera, which is APS-C.  Did anyone catch that point?

So, even though we're asking an A or B question, nobody chooses A or B.

NNNNNKay, that aside, why not answer his question.  For your camera, I'd get the 24-105L instead of the 35L.  See, that was easy.

For a guy who is just beginning to build his lens kit up, no way I'd buy a 16-35L over the 24-105L.  Too much money and too specific.  You always go general first, then specific.

Hmmm... if you read his second post, he's also considering moving FF.  Why get the 24-105 outside of the kit?  That's usually a poorer value proposition.  The reason why you see so many recommendations is because you can't cover what he wants to do with one lens:  landscape, portraits and indoor events.  For indoor events, 24-105 may be too slow; for landscape 24-105 may be too long on a crop.  The 35L would be a great solution for low light, but he also already has the nifty fifty, so neither of his choices would get him very far for all three goals.

24-105L indoors is not too slow.  I've been shooting weddings and indoor events for a long time now with the 24-105L.  If you shoot wider than f/4, you have DOF issues.  Serious ones.  If he's shooting a ton of indoor stuff, then he will need a flash anyways.  The 24-105L is the most economical and best zoom lens for a beginner on a FF body.  Hands down.  If I were him I'd wait until I bought the FF camera and buy it with the kit lens.  Maybe he'll never actually end up going FF.  Then in that case of course get another lens, but we cannot all just start guessing these things and we have to hold the OP's comments and questions to face value.  Anybody who lists all the things he did regarding what he wants to shoot really has no idea what he wants to shoot.  He just wants a camera and some lenses.  My suggestion is go FF with the 24-105L kit lens, if FF is the direction he wants to go.  That's all.  Stay on APS-C, get the 17-55 no doubt.

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