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EOS Bodies / Re: Is the 5DIII the New 50D?
« on: June 14, 2012, 01:10:41 PM »
I see what you're saying.  For any 50D owner, an upgrade to the 7D was hard to justify I suppose.  But that's within Canon.  You're talking Nikon vs. Canon.  It's hard to switch over once you're invested.  I really think Canon was simply trying to upgrade the 5D Mark II more than compete with Nikon, which yes, is unfortunate.  But yes, the 5D Mark III is a very nice upgrade to the 5D Mark II.  I've shot with both a lot and I can say that the upgrade is certainly there.  I'm not sure this condition existed with the 50D vs. 7D.  Yes the 7D was an upgrade, but was it enough of an upgrade if you already had one or two 50D's?  However, if you have the means to switch to Nikon, it's like the old 1D Mark IV vs. Nikon D3s argument. 

Personally I think these comparisons are simply tech and marketing comparisons.  What did all 5D owners do when there was only a 5D?  Everyone was happy and shooting high quality.  But then Canon would get bashed upon release of the 5D Mark II because of nitpicking tech issues, even though it is clearly a better camera than the 5D. 

I think a better question would be is the 5D Mark II the new 50D?  Is it worth upgrading to the Mark III, much like 50D owners were asking about the 7D.  I don't have the answer but it's an interesting question.

During my tests with the 50 1.2 for portrait uses, I found the AF for the 50, terrible.  Sometimes, maybe 20% it would lock on and be awesome, sometimes, it would be close, but just off, and sometimes, the camera would show focus confirmation, but image would be blurry as heck.  Plus the MA was so off I had it on the max MA to get it in focus for the few shots it got focus.  When i tested the 35 1.4, on the same body as the 50 test, I got a lot more in focus in more demanding situations.  The only time the 35 was OOF was when shutters were too slow because it was too dark, which isn't a lens issue, but a camera/operator issue.  Dont get me wrong, I wanted to love the 50, but for the sample I tested, it's too unreliable.

I'm starting to think Canon has added a new layer of "skill" in using this lens:  Whether they sold you a good copy or not :)

The 50 1.2 wont focus right wih the outer AF sensors on the 5D.

The 50mm f/1.2 L won't focus right with any AF sensor on any 5D. I've tried it on 5Dc, 5DII and 5DIII (and 7D for that matter). My lens, even at the best AF adjustment setting (-20) it misses more often than it hits (stationary high-contrast target from tripod). I wouldn't exclude the possibility of my sample being sub-par, but if you decide to get one of these, make sure the shop has a good return policy. I'd actually recommend getting the Sigma 50mm f/1.4 instead.

Having said that, both the 35mm and 50mm focal lengths are useful for weddings, and the 35L is excellent.

Really?? I just used it all day yesterday on a 5D Mark III and it worked great, except it was admittendly frustrating in AI Servo Mode.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Looking for backup camera body
« on: June 14, 2012, 10:38:13 AM »
In the summer and fall not too much sports, mostly landscape, buildings, and portraits.  We usually do a big trip in the fall somewhere, such as Pennsylvania or New York, and shoot for 5 days.  Winter and spring it's all sports, with minimal landscape and portraits.  Now, god forbid I have to do senior pictures, which could be this fall.  I really haven't enjoyed weddings too much either.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: right time to turn pro...?
« on: June 14, 2012, 12:54:51 AM »
This is my take.  I kept my "day job" and do photography for extra $$ when I can.  This way I can be a "pro" but also have superb health care insurance and a much larger salary with a 9-5.  Some people can make it big time with photography, but it's not the highest paid position, ON AVERAGE, in the world.  The income you make is limited by YOU.  How much business can you handle and attract and how efficient is your business?  It can be done, but most of the pros I know kept their 9-5 jobs for at least 2 years until they had their business all planned out and ready to go, before "releasing" into it full time.  Would I love to make the same salary in photography as I do in my full-time job?  Heck yes!  But for me it made a lot more sense to do it this way.  If you shoot weddings for awhile, those are on weekends for the most part, and you can make around $3k in central Ohio.  Do one every weekend from April-October :)

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Looking for backup camera body
« on: June 14, 2012, 12:46:18 AM »
Well I would like to have a backup camera body, and I currently shoot with both the 5D Mark III and 1D Mark IV.  There is someone that has offered me his 1Ds Mark III that was his backup body (he pre-ordered the 1D X) for $4000.  It wasn't used much because his backup wasn't used much, maybe has 5-7k actuations.  He did send it to Canon to have it refurbished, which it is.  Well, I'm not sure it is worth it.  I can get a 5D Mark II for 2k that I wouldn't use as much as my current cameras, but I've never even used a 1Ds series camera.  Would it be woth it?  What can the 1Ds III do that say, the 5D Mark III and II can't?  Thanks for any input.

P.S.  I can afford it but the issue is whether it is worth it or necessary.  Ah maybe I should just sell my 1D Mark IV and get a 1D X :)

EOS Bodies / Re: 1DX on preorder
« on: June 14, 2012, 12:15:16 AM »
I actually cancelled the 1D X preorder in place of a 5D Mark III.  For my personal photography, there isn't anything the 1D X is going to be able to do that my 5D Mark III and 1D Mark IV can't do.  I'm just not seeing it.  Now, there are features of the 1D X that my two cameras don't have, that people DO need.  I just don't really need 12 fps in really low light.

Well, I don't know for primes.  For weddings I'd use 24-70L zoom lens mainly.  Hmmm, I'd say I shoot at 50mm more than 35mm.  35 just isn't close enough for me for most situations. 

it's likely not the autofocus system as much as it may be focus shift on the lens when it stops down to take the exposure.. it is supposed to be one of the issues with that lens that plays into whether owners decide they love or hate the lens..

Maybe.  But I think the OP's questions have some merit.  I used a 5D Mark III all day today with two lenses: 70-200mm f/2.8L II IS and the 50mm f/1.2L.  First off, let me say that this combination produced some very, very good images that I am absolutely pleased with.  Since the OP posted his question a few days ago, I thought I'd pay attention to the 50 f/1.2L.  I did shoot some action photos today, and I was really disappointed on how this lens focused in AI Servo mode.  I could keep hearing the motor run, adjusting, adjusting, although the surface of the object moving was flat and not highlight blown, the camera should have had no problem focusing in and then locking, but the lens kept "searching."  That was annoying.  By the way, that was even with the center point.  So then I shot some darker situations with an outter focus point, and again, in AI Servo mode, it hunted like crazy.  It was close, but it kept hunting for that "little bit better focus" it was trying to do.  Keep in mind some of these shots were way down at f/8-f/11!  On the other hand, I used the 70-200 lens in the same situations and had no problems whatsoever.  The answer is that I don't know.  My next test will be portraits stopped down and wide open.

My conclusion is that I was disappointed with the lens in AI Servo mode.  The 50 f/1.4 has not given me this problem at all on the same camera body.  However, the images that were produced when it did lock focus perfectly were absolutely astounding, so overall I love the lens.

Lenses / Re: What's the best deal you've ever gotten on a lens?
« on: June 13, 2012, 12:05:24 AM »
Just got a 135mm f/2 for $525 off of a best buy auction site.

That may very well be the best value I've ever seen as far as L lenses sold.  I've never gotten a "deal" on a lens I guess.  Thinking back I guess I purchased them all new at the time.  I did go for a 28-70L lens on ebay once, and I would have had it for $500 but I lost in the last minute.  Another time I saw a 200mm f/1.8L on ebay for $3000, bid on it, lost the last day.  Oh well.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS-1D X Manual Posted
« on: June 12, 2012, 02:13:43 PM »
Excuse my ignorance but can someone explain in plain english why the camera can't focus at F8.0?
I have a 24-70 2.8L and use F8 all the time... I find it to be the best, sharpest and most natural F-stop for studio work...
Please someone tell me if that is going to affect me or not.  :-\



All lenses focus at their maximum aperature. You're lens has a max of 2.8, therefore the autofocus will work splendidly. The camera doesn't close down the aperature until you hit the shutter button (or the dof preview). As long as you don't use teleconverters you should never run into a situation where AF does not work. I would venture to say if you don't know this stuff then you probably shouldn't be getting a 1DX anyway.

I don't think that knowledge excludes anyone from owning a 1DX or any body for that matter.  The poster who asked this question is a pro and shoots very fine photographs.  If you've never had to run into this situation, ie you don't use teleconverters, then it matters none that you wouldn't know this. 

Lenses / Re: Recommendations for a fast sub-28mm lens for ~$1k?
« on: June 11, 2012, 11:48:35 PM »
Right now, I have a 50mm f/1.4 USM and a 15-85mm f/3.5-56 USM. Both are great, but I'm finding myself wanting to do a lot of indoor wide angle shots with relatively low light. The 50mm is too tight, and the 15-85mm is too slow.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a fast, relatively affordable wide-angle lens for a 60D that might fit the bill? It need not be a zoom lens, but I would like it to be very fast (faster than f/2 if possible; definitely faster than f/3). I know Canon has a 28mm f/1.8 USM, but I've read a couple of mixed reviews about its performance.

Since you have a 60D, hmm.  24mm would be about what, 38-39mm on the crop.  Is that wide enough for you?  I just can't see 28mm being that wide.  28 x 1.6 is about 45mm.  I don't have the answer here.  You could save up the extra money over a longer period and get the 24mm f/1.4L (which is an awesome lens) or save a little more money and get a 16-35mm f/2.8L II.  I guess $1k is a tough thing to hit when looking for a good lens down at these focal lengths.  Since you have a 50mm and that is just a bit too tight, I'm guessing the 28 would work for you if that is wide enough for you and obviously much, much more affordable than the other two lenses I mentioned.  Don't plan on great IQ at f/1.8 though on that 28mm.

Lenses / Re: Recommendations for a fast sub-28mm lens for ~$1k?
« on: June 11, 2012, 11:42:50 PM »
Wide angle low light shallow DoF is FF's specialty. You just have to suck it up if you really crave for that effect.

5D2/3 + 24L suits it perfectly.

Oh yeah!

Pricewatch Deals / Re: 5D Mark III in Stock at B&H & Amazon
« on: June 11, 2012, 11:04:34 PM »
When the price going down i will buy one

Which will be when?  When it's discontinued?  In case you haven't noticed, high-end Canon cameras don't come down in price.  A new 1D Mark IV today is what it was in 2009.

So the 50L and 5DM3 is a winning combo but has anyone been able to use other focus points on the 5dm3 because i dont feel comfortable using it with anything other than the center since the other focus points don't accurately focus it seems. I wonder if there will be an update to the 50L since i don't think its going to work well with the 5dm3... I wanted to shoot a wedding with it but now i am not sure i want it to be my main lens on the 5dm3 because focus recompose is a pain when doing journalism action type candids. I used the 5D and the 70-200L II and it focuses very accurately. The 24-70 hasn't had much time on my 5DM3 but it seems ok.
Has anyone else been able to get accurate focus with the 50L on the 5DM3?

I'll be doing a full test of the 50 f/1.2L on a 5D Mark III on Wednesday.  I will try outter autofocus points at a variety of apertures and let you know what I find.

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