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And you are so knowledgeable because ......

APS-H is gone.  Not coming back. 

Canon General / New Term
« on: June 27, 2014, 02:35:34 PM »
We all know what gear heads are, or at least the typical definition of a "gear head" but I had another thought.  I've been dealing with a lot of people who are absolute in their views of "gear doesn't matter at all, in any situation" and people who feel as though they are better and had it rougher and tougher back in the film days and how all digital photographers are lazy.  I was thinking "Film Heads" but I'm still thinking.

Just a "light" humor thread for a Friday afternoon.

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D mark 2 crop vs full frame
« on: June 27, 2014, 09:46:36 AM »
I don't get why internet experts think that the 7D mk II needs to be FF. It is preposterous, as FF and crop are two totally different tools, and crop is a better tool for nearly everything.

The 7D mk II will be a APS-C camera, the FF 7D 2, if you will is called the 1DX.

I agree that any 7D Mark II will be APS-C but to say that crop is better for nearly everything is wrong.  It's not better for low-light and it's only good for reach and putting pixels on subject, when you are reach limited.

I hear a lot about how a FF/crop combo is the best for sports such as a 5D3/7D combo.  While I agree it's convenient and useful, and ignoring price obviously, it would still be better to have a pair of 1Dx's with sufficient reach lenses.  The 1Dx with the longer lens to make up for the 7D's crop factor will produce better IQ, at ALL ISO's.  This is exactly why I ditched both of my 7D and 1D4 cameras in favor of a longer lens and another 1Dx.  Again though, photography was helping fund a lot of that and had I been on my own, NO WAY I could have afforded that.  So I agree with jrista and neuro regarding the cost factor regarding crop cameras.  It really was the price difference between a 7D and 1D4 back in 2010 (even though technically the 1D4 is a "crop" camera).   

With that being said, I really hope the 7D replacement is revolutionary and I think it will sell well and make a lot of people happy.  I may consider it as a "3rd" camera if the specs are right and I have the funding.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70d center focus point -bug- problem
« on: June 25, 2014, 09:14:00 PM »
I am amazed that Americans think that they can rename cities and countries for other people. He has the spelling correct in Turkish. Americans call Firenze "Florence" and Padova "Padua." Of course, the people in Italy don't know the names of their own cities, Firenze and Padova.

It depends what language you are speaking. All languages rename foreign cities and countries based on their own rules and pronunciations. No doubt the United States of America is called something else in Turkey.

Using the Turkish spelling for "Turkey" is proper when you are speaking Turkish, but when you are using English (as we are on this board), the correct spelling is "Turkey".

Who cares?

Lenses / Re: Why do fast primes not have IS?
« on: June 25, 2014, 05:17:51 PM »
I don't know why Canon's fast (short) primes don't have IS - but I hope this continues to be the case.
My concern with IS is that it introduces a dead element in the focal path (this is my description for a piece of glass that does nothing) also IS slows up AF acquisition. On longer lenses (300mm +) then I agree that IS can be handy (to have in reserve) though I very rarely use it these days.
Back in January I turned off the IS on My Canon 800 F5.6 L IS and was happier without it. AF is faster and I have had no problems regarding shutter speeds (note I use ISO's of up to 12800) also due to the improved AF my "Hit Rate" is higher. Since then I have turned off the IS on all my IS lenses (300 F2.8 L IS, 70-200 F2.8 L IS and 24-105 L IS) and have noticed similar improvements. IS can be handy to have in reserve but on my 300 F2.8 and shorter lenses I really don't have much use for it, on the 800mm it can be handy for Dawn/Dusk shots but as soon as the light is near passable I turn it off.
Just my 2p.

That's why I don't shoot moving objects or sports with IS.  I shut it off on my 300 and 400 f/2.8's because my miss rate increased with IS turned on. 

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D mark 2 crop vs full frame
« on: June 25, 2014, 03:47:11 PM »
I think we ALL know deep down that it is NOT going to be either FF or APS-H. 

Lenses / Re: Why do fast primes not have IS?
« on: June 25, 2014, 11:57:04 AM »
I think people want absolutely IS, but don't know why..

Cameras have good higher and higher ISO..
Very good lens have a lot of light...

-> you can have enough light for fast speeds (> 1/100 or 150)... So why do we bother for IS....
I was useful when camera couldn't go (good) over ISO400..  but know, IS is more and more useless.

I see utility only for long lenses.

While it's true that high ISO performance is good on newer cameras, it's still the case that image quality is better with lower ISOs (esp. if you want or need to crop, and esp. with smaller sensors); so IS/IBIS can be useful even with short, fast primes.  Unless there's clear evidence that putting IS in a very fast lens reduces its image quality, I really don't understand why people object to the idea.   


I've been in situations where I'm at 1/125s, f/2.8, and ISO 8000 and shooting stationary objects.  If IS lets me lower my shutter speed so that ISO is 2000, then that is a very good thing.

What the hell's a Canon Explorer of Light?

EOS Bodies / Re: 1DX2 5D4 to be announced in January/ February 2015
« on: June 22, 2014, 05:10:18 PM »
Over at NL I just read:
21st Both the 5D4 and 1D X mk2 are to be announced January/February of next year, we're told (thanks).
The 1D X mk2 will be announced first (potentially late this year), but will ship later.
Both will incorporate significant advances in sensor design, which mean that there will be no high MP '3D' class body this year.

The info suggested that this was what was being tested in the studios we heard about last month,
(we've read it here: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=21078.0)
and that elements of it woud appear in the upcoming 7D mk2, but that the real advance would not be seen until next year.

@CR guy: did you receive any other, supplementing news by sources which were accurate in the past?


What could the specs of a 5D4 be in ISOs? "native 51K"? Let's say ISO 25.6k like my ISO 12.8 on the 5D3 today? I just hope in case of the 5D4 they don't raise the MP count but improve the great allround cam significantly in IQ high ISO wise.

Geez, do I have to keep doing this?  Over at NL, they once, quoted, "The 1Ds Mark IV will be announced this year..."  I think that was back in 2011. 

How did that pan out for everyone?

Reviews / Re: Sold all my canon gear . . . Then bought a 70d
« on: June 21, 2014, 01:15:42 PM »

You do realise, that f/4 on FF is still thinner DoF than f/2.8 on APS-C, right?

This is incorrect. A lens mounted on full frame or crop will deliver the same dof at the same aperture. Ie if you mount a 50 1.4 on a 70d or a 6d both will have the same dof. It's the same glass. But the angle of view will obviously be a lot wider on 6d


Reviews / Re: DxO reviews Sony A7s: king of low light photography?
« on: June 21, 2014, 09:49:47 AM »
In DxoMarkLand, Canon is outscored by Nikon, Sony, Fuji, even Pentax.  In the real world people buy camera systems based on their needs, and the fact that more people buy Canon dSLRs and lenses than any of their competitors' indicates that Canon better meets the needs and/or desires of more photographers.  That's reality...whether or not you can deal with it.

And those needs may be things like "I want WiFi in my camera." at the top of the customer's list.

knowledgable users buy what they need more than uneducated users who buy what marketing tells them they should want. That's what Neuro keeps getting wrong.

That is a whopper right there.  I haven't read that many ignorant statements on here in a long time (I admit I posted a few too).  But that right there takes the cake for the all time most ignorant statement ever on here, and that is quite an accomplishment.  Great job!

EOS Bodies / Re: Reports of EOS 7D Reaching End of Life [CR2]
« on: June 20, 2014, 08:14:34 PM »
It only matters if DxOmark says it's a better camera (sensor) than the corresponding Canon camera...At base ISO...on a tripod...downsampled to 8MP...

Whoops, sorry guys!

EOS Bodies / Re: New Sensor Tech in EOS 7D Mark II [CR2]
« on: June 20, 2014, 02:34:05 PM »
What do you all think are the chances, that the 7D II will surpass the 5D mark iii/1DX on certain things? Such as IQ, ISO, DR or other things?

IMO, the 7DII will at best match the ISO/noise performance of the 5DIII.
And if Canon has finally decided to implement on-chip analog-to-digital conversion (ADC),
DR at low ISO could be better than on the FF cameras.
That's about it, though, in terms of IQ.

Also, just like with the 7D, we might see some features on the 7DII that will later make it
into the higher end cameras.

Overall, it's hard to imagine that the 7DII will offer much more from what you can get
already with the 5DIII today (except for higher frame rate and more pixels per duck).

Not if it's not FF.  No way.

EOS Bodies / Re: Reports of EOS 7D Reaching End of Life [CR2]
« on: June 20, 2014, 11:33:53 AM »
This may sound rather pessimistic, but I suspect a 7D Mark II will find its place in the kit of people not wanting to spend a lot of money on a camera body, but who still want to have many pro-camera features, because this is the selling point of the 7D and by replacing it Canon should be aiming at the same kind of target customers.

For me, a 7D is a complement to a 5D - one for reach and speed, one for low-light and image quality.  I'll take one of each if they are similar enough in user interface and technology.

But...a 5DIII and a 7DII will probably cost the same as a 1D-x....

And be many times more useful than a 1Dx.

I found it less useful.  I had a 7D and a 5D3 I was using, but the 1Dx replaced both.  Instead of changing cameras on the sidelines or out in the field, I just kept shooting because the 1Dx did what each of those does and then even more.  I realize you need a supertele, but I have several, so that's not an issue.  You can't shoot with both cameras at the exact same time, so again, in my opinion, it was less useful.

The 1Dx has the speed, the AF, and the high ISO performance, all in one.  Why split it all apart into two different cameras when you can do it in one?  That's why a long lens on one, and a short lens on a 2nd one will always be the absolute best scenario.  Affordability is another situation.

EOS Bodies / Re: Reports of EOS 7D Reaching End of Life [CR2]
« on: June 20, 2014, 10:50:41 AM »

(Another reason why the 1DX overlap is smaller than you think:  1DX users aren't looking for 90-95% as good as something -- they want the best money can buy in that format.  That separates the users pretty clearly for me.)

Very true.  The 5d3 is 95% of the 1Dx and it is half the cost.  Once you get that good it is really expensive to get just a little better.

I'd put it more at 75%.  I've shot extensively with both, indoor and outdoor sports, and with regards to AF accuracy and metering accuracy, 1Dx is winning by a fairly substantial margin.  In terms of AF accuracy I'd still put the 1D4 ahead of the 5D3, but not in ISO performance.  That and all the other things Marsu42 listed...

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