« on: June 27, 2014, 04:38:28 PM »
And you are so knowledgeable because ......
APS-H is gone. Not coming back.
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I don't get why internet experts think that the 7D mk II needs to be FF. It is preposterous, as FF and crop are two totally different tools, and crop is a better tool for nearly everything.
The 7D mk II will be a APS-C camera, the FF 7D 2, if you will is called the 1DX.
I am amazed that Americans think that they can rename cities and countries for other people. He has the spelling correct in Turkish. Americans call Firenze "Florence" and Padova "Padua." Of course, the people in Italy don't know the names of their own cities, Firenze and Padova.
It depends what language you are speaking. All languages rename foreign cities and countries based on their own rules and pronunciations. No doubt the United States of America is called something else in Turkey.
Using the Turkish spelling for "Turkey" is proper when you are speaking Turkish, but when you are using English (as we are on this board), the correct spelling is "Turkey".
I don't know why Canon's fast (short) primes don't have IS - but I hope this continues to be the case.
My concern with IS is that it introduces a dead element in the focal path (this is my description for a piece of glass that does nothing) also IS slows up AF acquisition. On longer lenses (300mm +) then I agree that IS can be handy (to have in reserve) though I very rarely use it these days.
Back in January I turned off the IS on My Canon 800 F5.6 L IS and was happier without it. AF is faster and I have had no problems regarding shutter speeds (note I use ISO's of up to 12800) also due to the improved AF my "Hit Rate" is higher. Since then I have turned off the IS on all my IS lenses (300 F2.8 L IS, 70-200 F2.8 L IS and 24-105 L IS) and have noticed similar improvements. IS can be handy to have in reserve but on my 300 F2.8 and shorter lenses I really don't have much use for it, on the 800mm it can be handy for Dawn/Dusk shots but as soon as the light is near passable I turn it off.
Just my 2p.
I think people want absolutely IS, but don't know why..
Cameras have good higher and higher ISO..
Very good lens have a lot of light...
-> you can have enough light for fast speeds (> 1/100 or 150)... So why do we bother for IS....
I was useful when camera couldn't go (good) over ISO400.. but know, IS is more and more useless.
I see utility only for long lenses.
While it's true that high ISO performance is good on newer cameras, it's still the case that image quality is better with lower ISOs (esp. if you want or need to crop, and esp. with smaller sensors); so IS/IBIS can be useful even with short, fast primes. Unless there's clear evidence that putting IS in a very fast lens reduces its image quality, I really don't understand why people object to the idea.
Over at NL I just read:
21st Both the 5D4 and 1D X mk2 are to be announced January/February of next year, we're told (thanks).
The 1D X mk2 will be announced first (potentially late this year), but will ship later.
Both will incorporate significant advances in sensor design, which mean that there will be no high MP '3D' class body this year.
The info suggested that this was what was being tested in the studios we heard about last month,
(we've read it here: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=21078.0)
and that elements of it woud appear in the upcoming 7D mk2, but that the real advance would not be seen until next year.
@CR guy: did you receive any other, supplementing news by sources which were accurate in the past?
What could the specs of a 5D4 be in ISOs? "native 51K"? Let's say ISO 25.6k like my ISO 12.8 on the 5D3 today? I just hope in case of the 5D4 they don't raise the MP count but improve the great allround cam significantly in IQ high ISO wise.
You do realise, that f/4 on FF is still thinner DoF than f/2.8 on APS-C, right?
This is incorrect. A lens mounted on full frame or crop will deliver the same dof at the same aperture. Ie if you mount a 50 1.4 on a 70d or a 6d both will have the same dof. It's the same glass. But the angle of view will obviously be a lot wider on 6d
In DxoMarkLand, Canon is outscored by Nikon, Sony, Fuji, even Pentax. In the real world people buy camera systems based on their needs, and the fact that more people buy Canon dSLRs and lenses than any of their competitors' indicates that Canon better meets the needs and/or desires of more photographers. That's reality...whether or not you can deal with it.
And those needs may be things like "I want WiFi in my camera." at the top of the customer's list.
knowledgable users buy what they need more than uneducated users who buy what marketing tells them they should want. That's what Neuro keeps getting wrong.
What do you all think are the chances, that the 7D II will surpass the 5D mark iii/1DX on certain things? Such as IQ, ISO, DR or other things?
IMO, the 7DII will at best match the ISO/noise performance of the 5DIII.
And if Canon has finally decided to implement on-chip analog-to-digital conversion (ADC),
DR at low ISO could be better than on the FF cameras.
That's about it, though, in terms of IQ.
Also, just like with the 7D, we might see some features on the 7DII that will later make it
into the higher end cameras.
Overall, it's hard to imagine that the 7DII will offer much more from what you can get
already with the 5DIII today (except for higher frame rate and more pixels per duck).
This may sound rather pessimistic, but I suspect a 7D Mark II will find its place in the kit of people not wanting to spend a lot of money on a camera body, but who still want to have many pro-camera features, because this is the selling point of the 7D and by replacing it Canon should be aiming at the same kind of target customers.
For me, a 7D is a complement to a 5D - one for reach and speed, one for low-light and image quality. I'll take one of each if they are similar enough in user interface and technology.
But...a 5DIII and a 7DII will probably cost the same as a 1D-x....
And be many times more useful than a 1Dx.
(Another reason why the 1DX overlap is smaller than you think: 1DX users aren't looking for 90-95% as good as something -- they want the best money can buy in that format. That separates the users pretty clearly for me.)
Very true. The 5d3 is 95% of the 1Dx and it is half the cost. Once you get that good it is really expensive to get just a little better.