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EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II? [CR1]
« on: February 15, 2012, 03:15:54 PM »
My two cents on this. The 7D is really a little bit odd; if one digit (xD) canons are for the pros, then the 7D was a bit weak. On the other hand there are are 3 consumer bodies (xxxxD, xxxD, xxD). This lineup somehow makes sense, just that the 7D is not really pro-grade.

This is how I see the future lineup from Canon: The 1Dx is for sport and wildlife shooters (high speed with 12fps, high ISO up to 200k). Then there will be the 5DmkIII, it looks at the moment that it won't compete with the D800, but I can see where it could be placed. the 5D will be for photojournalists who also like to make movies. The 5D is smaller more mobile package then the 1D, emphasis will be on good high ISO (low light ability, and video)
But there is somethin missing in the pro sector, and this is the landscape shooters. And here could the often rumored 3D fit in, which will be aimed at the D800. A camera with high resolution (40+MP) but a slower speed.

With these 3 pro bodies, there is no room for a 7D, so the xxD will move up a little (to where the 50D was). The difference between a 600D and 60D is quite narrow at the moment, and I think it makes sense to widen this gap.

Conclusion: 3 consumer bodies (entry, standard, advanced) and 3 pro bodies (Action, Landscape, Photojournalist) from canon, this would be a nice and logic lineup.

Why do you think the 1Dx would work for wildlife shooters?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Guinea Pig
« on: February 15, 2012, 03:12:30 PM »
I don't know about using the 7D as a guinea pig.  It seems to me that plenty of pro wildlife/sports fotogs were happy with the 7D being a crop sensor as it gave them more reach.  It could have been the case of canon marketing saying - we have the sensor, we have the AF system, why not.  They only had a pro AF system on the 1D cameras.  Putting it on a crop sensor camera is just a way to use what they already had without eroding too much the sales of the 1D system.  How many sports fotogs do you see walking around with a 1D and a 7d strapped to their photography vests.  I see lots.

APS-C works. Once upon a time, 4x5 film was the stuff. 35mm film killed it. Sure now, and 4x5 quality will always beat 35mm quality. However, there are qualities beyond sterile image quality. FF digital requires lenses which are more expensive. It requires a larger camera. It's lenses are shorter. APS-C has serious benefits.

Nikon knows this. see how much they have put into their DX lineup? If Canon boggles this, Nikon will gladly scoop up disgruntled photographers with a shiny new D400.

Push this argument further and you get little cameras with iPhone sensors

Push it the other way, and buy Phase 1 digital backs. You will have all the quality you could ever want, and everything you've been missing out on with your FF sensor.

APS-C has major benefits over FF for portable wildlife photography. For what I do, even a 1Ds MK III would not suffice. It would require a bigger more expensive lens, and a lot more lugging. FF and APS-C are two different solutions to two different problems. And they both do their job well in their realms. But to nix APS-C in the 7D for full frame has far more drawbacks than benefits.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Perfect Camera features
« on: February 15, 2012, 02:04:56 AM »
how about one or two of crop factor options? selecting like we select various JPEG sizes?
Wouldn't that be helpful to make your 100 mm to 170 mm just by selecting 1.7 crop factor,

I know probably the view finder needs to be tweaked too or at least show a frame on the overlap display in the view finder to see how you are composing.

Just wondering if any one else likes this feature of its just me

APS-C is cheaper than a full frame which crops... and less bulky...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Guinea Pig
« on: February 15, 2012, 02:03:03 AM »
I don't know about using the 7D as a guinea pig.  It seems to me that plenty of pro wildlife/sports fotogs were happy with the 7D being a crop sensor as it gave them more reach.  It could have been the case of canon marketing saying - we have the sensor, we have the AF system, why not.  They only had a pro AF system on the 1D cameras.  Putting it on a crop sensor camera is just a way to use what they already had without eroding too much the sales of the 1D system.  How many sports fotogs do you see walking around with a 1D and a 7d strapped to their photography vests.  I see lots.

APS-C works. Once upon a time, 4x5 film was the stuff. 35mm film killed it. Sure now, and 4x5 quality will always beat 35mm quality. However, there are qualities beyond sterile image quality. FF digital requires lenses which are more expensive. It requires a larger camera. It's lenses are shorter. APS-C has serious benefits.

Nikon knows this. see how much they have put into their DX lineup? If Canon boggles this, Nikon will gladly scoop up disgruntled photographers with a shiny new D400.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II? [CR1]
« on: February 15, 2012, 01:55:43 AM »
Cropping will never replace framing the image well in the first place.
Well, yes and no, right? The D800 has a DX Mode that turns it into a crop-sensor camera. The only reason it can do this is because it has a huge number to start out with and it pre-crops it for you down to a 16MP camera. I don't know how this looks in the viewfinder or how it works in practice. It will be interesting.

Think of all the arguments that would just vanish if they came out with an über 5D that had enough MPs to be able to put it into an 16MP crop mode. Also, if you put an EF-S lens on it, it automatically senses it and puts the camera into crop mode.

Yeah, this is pretty much what the D800 does. Cool, right?

Even if you could mount an ef-s lens, it would get caught by the mirror, which is much larger on a FF camera.

What I still can't get is why anyone wants a fullframe 7D. Get a 5d! You speak of autofocus. Get a 1Ds mk III. You speak of price. Get a D800. You say you still want it cheaper. Many have posted they want a 7D FF for not much more than a 7D. This totally makes no sense.

The 7D is a great camera because of it's APS-C sensor. Bloat the sensor, and destroy the camera.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Anyone else want a cropped sensor?
« on: February 14, 2012, 02:17:50 PM »
Yes, i want a cropped sensor... a 7D mk2 that use a APS-H sensor ( cropped :) ) and the ability to use EF-s lenses.
well, I'm afraid that's not possible. EF-S lenses are only compatible with APS-C. You need FF lenses for APS-H... ::)

Indeed. Even if they did work, there would be serious vignetting. The short back focus might get in the mirror's way, anyway.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II? [CR1]
« on: February 14, 2012, 02:14:44 PM »
If this rumor is true I want to know who was the bird/sport/wildlife shooter that really pis anoyed the Canon execs? Kill the 1D4 and now kill the 7D?

If you merge the 7D into the 70D what will it cost for a xxxD shooter to move up to the 70D? Will they pay that much? Well, if they just move the present 7D into the smaller body they could save the development cost of a 7D2 but then what will 7D users do for an upgrade?

A question for the FF shooters that keep telling us to move up to FF. Do you shoot a supertelephoto + an extender? If I shot weddings and events there is no way I would have bought a second 7D rather than a 5D2 but I don't. At times I really need a 1120mm FOV (500mm x 1.4 x 1.6).

Perhaps I should buy a 1D4 before they are all gone, that way I would have f/8 AF with the lower crop.

Canon is crazy. It's almost like they want the wildlife people to jump ship. Arthur Morris has been pretty tight-lipped on his blog about his opinion on the 1DX, but a few complaints have slipped through from time to time, especially about the no F8 AF.

To get the same FOV as my 7D with a 300 2.8, I would need a 500 F4. Bigger, heavier, expensiver, less hand-held. To get the same FOV as my 300 2.8 + 2x TC, I would need either to slap on a 2x TC and get a 1000 f8 with no AF, or go for a 800 5.6 with a 1.4x TC and... ...wait a minute, still NO AF!!!

Plus, that little bit of extra depth of field HELPS. Ever shot herons? On my 7D, I usually need to stop down to F8. If I were using FF, I would be stopping my 500 F4 down to f11. More diffraction, more high ISO to get a shutterspeed >1000...

A crop body just plain makes sense.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Anyone else want a cropped sensor?
« on: February 14, 2012, 02:07:22 PM »
I realise I am in the minority, but I am NOT currently in the market for FF body (not that I wouldn’t like one, just I have not got the glass or the money), but am dieing to replace my banged up 450D.
So what do folks think the next cropped bodies will be like? Is there anyone else out there who wants one?

No, you are not in the minority! There are many out there who think this also.

No I don't want a cropped sensor.. its like asking does anyone want the same fuel economy but less horsepower..

That's a false analogy. Grad you full-frame camera, shoot an image of a distant heron (20 meters); from the same point, mount a 7D on the same lens, and shoot the same picture. The bird will be much larger in the 7D's frame. Go ahead and crop the FF in post processing; you will not have the pixels tow work with it the way you would with a 7D.

Crop sensors sell by far the largest number of DSLR camera bodies, so a ton of people want them.

I'd rather say  the majority wants relatively small and cheap camera. it happens to be apsc now, but it is not the customer's decision, even though many of them do not even know what the difference is, but currently there are no options (maybe a 6d or 8d as cheap FF?). I'd prefer FF but not in the size and price of a 5d.

If you want cheaper FF, get an old used film rebel for about 20 bucks. Otherwise, you won't get a cheaper FF. The 5D was revolutionary in part because it was a cheap FF. The "I want to kill the 7D to bring about a cheaper FF with 7D AF" cry many are echoing on these forums is not even realistic.

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II? [CR1]
« on: February 14, 2012, 01:57:17 PM »
It just doesn't make any sense. Why would they do that?

That would be the 70D...

The 7D is a real oddity - a decidedly "pro" body with glaringly non-pro features (sensor, pop-up flash anyone?). Put a 22MP new-gen FF sensor in a 7D body, add the new 1Dx-derived AF tech, and you have the 5Dx. Every 7D/5D2 owner will buy one, probably two. Pump up the 60D with some 7D tech and bring back the xxD line to it's rightful place at the top of the APS-C heap. Wham-bam, Canon sells a gazillion cameras and Nikon fanboys gloat about their 36MP that no-one really wanted anyway ;)

Don't knock the pop-up flash, you never know.

Out of the blue we once got a call that the stanley cup was in town and that we needed to run and get some shots instantly, pop up flash sure provided some nice little fill flash for the first location they had it in and some pros there were in the same situation and going "gotta love the pop up!"

And it's nice for the occasional little snap shot or a sudden unexpected thing like a tree frog appearing at night when that was the last thing you were expecting to shoot, etc. Not everyone want to always drag an external flash along every single time they are out.

Don't knock it.

Also dont forget the D300, D300s, D700 AND the D800 all have pop up flashes.  All them, in the nikon lineup, are considered pro bodies.  Plus you got the wireless commander... It serves it's purpose for the Oh Crap moments.  Also dont forget the 7D was aimed squarely at the D300 and the D300s.  The 7D2 will likely be aimed squarely at the D400 or whatever it gets called when the time comes.

The crop sensor is the big attraction of the 7D. Pop in a 22mp FF and you have a gelded wildlife camera. It's usefulness would be sorely degraded.

The 1.6 crop is the best teleconverter there is. My 300 2.8 would suddenly have the field of view of the 200 side of my 70-200 f2.8,

It would be folly and mischievous madness for Canon to adulterate the 7D. By the way, what do you think the D400 is going to be like? If Canon drops the ball on the 7D MK II, and Nikon gets the D400 right, a lot of people are going to be looking long and hard at the other side of the fence. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: No 7D Mark II? [CR1]
« on: February 14, 2012, 09:17:01 AM »
I want an APS-C 7D MK II. I don't want it called different names, nor do I want it's sensor size meddled with.

This is a very serious and emotional thing for me and many 7D users.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon will end the 7D series life?
« on: February 10, 2012, 02:02:11 PM »

The 7D is the halo/ Flagship product for APS-C sensors, can't see them ditching that.

Indeed. Although, an APS-C 1D body would be great...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7D on it's way out?
« on: February 10, 2012, 10:32:42 AM »
I called my local camera shop to get pricing and availability on the 7D....they said that they are out of stock and probably not getting any more.  This is from a reputable store as well, would definitely patronize them if I can. 

Odd I thought since I see it available all over the web.  Anyone else run into this lately?

This probably means that the 7D mk II is going to be announced soon...

The OP states that a local brick-and-mortar store is not getting any more 7D cameras.  Not that want to buy them from Canon but there's no availability.  Not that Canon has discontinued the wholesale supply.  Just that they're not getting any more.  Most likely, it means they aren't selling enough of them to warrant keeping them in stock. 

There was a flap about this a while back, a reputable online retailer (in the UK/EU, I think) was listing the 7D as 'limited stock remaining, will not be restocked'.  That was for the 7D body only, the 7D kits were stocked and remained so.  Again, a case of a retailer looking at their sales history, and reducing stock levels of a product because carrying it is no longer profitable for them. 

So, no, it doesn't mean a 7DII is coming soon.  Or, if you prefer, yes, it means that a 7DII is coming soon, just as surely as the upcoming storm we're expecting in the Northeast US was caused by a butterfly flapping it's wings in China.

And may it flap hard then! Actually, I am expecting the 7D mk II to be announced October. Hoping for it sooner is wishful thinking. I remember that the 1Ds mk III was being reported out of stock a while before the 1DX started to be announced, though... So we probably still have six months or more to wait...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7D on it's way out?
« on: February 10, 2012, 09:25:56 AM »
I called my local camera shop to get pricing and availability on the 7D....they said that they are out of stock and probably not getting any more.  This is from a reputable store as well, would definitely patronize them if I can. 

Odd I thought since I see it available all over the web.  Anyone else run into this lately?

This probably means that the 7D mk II is going to be announced soon...

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I was bicycling through the Shark Valley Loop in the Everglades with my 7D, and I wrecked and it hit the road (along with me).

The 7D came out just fine!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 40MP Canon that's not the 5D3?
« on: February 08, 2012, 03:19:49 PM »
does this mean we are looking at an APS-C cropped sensor with 40mp on it?  :-\

I can only hope!!!  8)

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