You didn't have a choice for 7D APS-C!
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If canon bought out a FF 22mp, Pro AF, 7-8fps 7dII at the same SRP of the original 7d, who would pay more then double that for a 1dX?
As Canon discovered with the 5D2, it's not about profit margin alone, it's about (profit margin) x (units sold). Sure, you don't want to cannibalize sales from a camera with a much higher profit margin...unless you can sell enough extra units to make up for it. It's well-understood (or at least widely reported) that P&S sales account for vastly more sales and profits than DSLR's, even with much lower profit margin; that same reasoning applies within the DSLR line. It's all about maximizing profit and, if they believe they can do that with a 7d2, or a 5d3 that's essentially a FF 7D, they will.I think the 7D Mk II needs to be put to bed now. In my view Canon would be mad to bring out the 7D Mk II...Its serving its purpose on the market so Canon wont touch it just now.
The 7D's Nikon competitor, the D300s, has apparently been retired in preparation for the D400. We can only assume that the D400 is designed to take the "best sports crop" title away, so the 7D may not be serving its purpose on the market much longer.
To many the 1D+1Ds merger was a surprise; perhaps we shouldn't be surprised by more surprises.
QuoteWell said, they made little money from me on the 5D, but I paid over $4k in lens purchases to dress up the 5D.
Sadly, if I include Canon strobes, I'm just about there with my 7D. (Don't tell my wife, please.)
I think that the main reason they won't be putting an APS-H sensor in a non-1D line camera is that they don't want to risk 1DIV users trading down due to their loss of pixels on target in the 1D X. If they put a 24MP APS-H sensor in a 7D-esque body and charged a 5D MkII price for it, there might be some who'd be tempted.
Why does everyone need to keep making up excuses?
The APS-H sensor is a misfit and only came about because of technical restrictions with respect to sensor yield in fabrication. With the technical restrictions now history and the sensor yield problem solved, there is no longer any reason for APS-H sensors to exist.
Consider that it is the underlying sensor technology that is important, not the sensor size. Thus if they can manufacture an APS-H sensor at 16MP then they can build a FF sensor at 27MP with close to the same characteristics. (A 27MP full frame sensor will deliver a 1.3 crop that is 16MP.)
So I just purchased the 85L ii a couple days ago from BH and it came out to a total of $1860. And while I'm anticipating it's arrival, I'm like... "man, that's really expensive." Could have bought a Philip Bloom Pocket Dolly, 85 1.8 and a 135L w/ that money. Theses stupid mind games big companies use against you.... I have an L addiction.
I've shot with the D300s and it's a very nice c-sensor camera. Its biggest problem is that the megapixel count is fairly low so there isn't much room to crop if you really want to. If they get that up to around 18 or 21 and bump up the IQ/ISO performance, Canon will probably will feel compelled to respond sooner rather than later with a 7D2.
The 7D does rock, except for the IQ at high ISO, so I ended up getting rid of mine
I would like to think a 7DmkII would address this issue, but if it had a 1DX type sensor and much better IQ it'd probably eat into 1DX sales, so perhaps not a huge increase. Hope I am wrong though...
I just realized... The 5DX discussion has merited me about 12 smites in about 36 hours!
But, back to the camera: why a rating button? How much would people use it? I wouldn't much, likely, but maybe some would?
There have been a bunch of discussion on page 26.
im just thinking here....
canon said it will not abandon the APS-H sensor format.
would it make sense for canon to put an APS-H sensor in the 7D MK2?
why or why not? what do you think?
i think what speaks against it is EF-S lenses....
but on the other side it would be a nice seperation from the XXD models.
the 70D could have better AF, better body construction etc. and the 7D MK2 would still have some edge.
This makes no sense, the 7D has one of the best autofocus systems out of any Canon camera right now, and the 60D AF is definitely inferior. You're saying that in one generation that the 7D will improve the AF barely any and the 70D will somehow catch up and pass the 7D?
And if the 70D had better AF and better body construction, how would a 7DII with APS-C have an edge over it? If you're a wildlife/sports photographer it's not an edge at all.
A DSLR is not the ideal camera for street photography. Can it be done? Sure! But it is just too big and bulky and does not allow a photographer to be discreet.
I'm an example of a person that switched from the T2i to the x100, but I don't think the camera changes things that much here. In fact, my best pictures were taken with the Rebel. There are people doing great street photography with Canon DSLRs. Check this guy out: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dirtyharrry/
If you think that buying a Leica will turn you into a great street photographer, you are wrong.
Not my best - but taken with 1d4+400 f/2.8 just to show a Leica isn't needed
A DSLR is not the ideal camera for street photography. Can it be done? Sure! But it is just too big and bulky and does not allow a photographer to be discreet. No wonder then that the Leica is still the king of street photography...Actually, I would like to get a Leica for this reason. I was talking to a guy with Leica M9 who told me that his kids, who shoot Canon DSLRs with large glass, get barraged by tourists to take their shots while he goes unnoticed with the Leica. He let me play with the camera and it feels good in the hand.
The problem with the M9 is: cost, poor high ISO performance, and lack of lenses :-). When I say lack of lenses, I do not mean that there are no good lenses - the Leica M lenses are the best in their focal length range, but not easily available. Since all of this is hand built, one often waits for a long time for a lens to become available and on eBay, competition can be fierce!
I am hoping that the M10 (rumored: Photokina 2012) will have much better high ISO performance (possibly Sony CMOS sensor) and their mirror-less solution with an APS-C sensor and using R series lenses at a lower price point will make these cameras available to all street photographers.
But, there is always the Sony NEX-7, Olympus PEN and Fuji X-Pro 1 to look at for street photography - just need really good lenses for them...