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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: First Kodachrome, now Kodak?
« on: January 03, 2012, 11:56:10 PM »
 :'(

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 03, 2012, 05:42:34 PM »

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Used 500D might be an option.

My son was on a bridge camera when I was on a 40D

Indeed, a good idea. My little brother (a teen) has an old XT he uses... He hasn't killed it yet... Though he did manage to kill my 70-200!  :'(

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 03, 2012, 02:23:10 PM »
Or, how about: "Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that APS-H is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive."  (Miracle Max in The Princess Bride, sort of...)

I really like the ASP-C because of the reach it gives me... if they would put asp-c in a 1D body...

Exactly what I'm hoping for...but they can wait a year or so, until my gear fund recovers from the 1D X, and I'm looking to replace the 7D after experiencing 1-series AF for a while...


Me too!

Or, how about: "Whoo-hoo-hoo, look who knows so much. It just so happens that APS-H is only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive."  (Miracle Max in The Princess Bride, sort of...)

Cant say I've ever seen princess bride [/crickets chirping]...  anyways I understand the aps-c vs aps-h in terms of slightly bigger sensor, better IQ, but one of the tradeoff's for APS-C is the ability to use APS-C lenses and line up and reach... Especially since Canon has obviously shown a desire to develop this clientele and sensor size with lenses, I cant see canon abandoning that unless they make it so the lenses work on that style camera...

Go watch it!!! What would be hilarious is if Nikon came out with a 1.3/1.25 crop sensor (Although DX is 1.5)...

"Hey Inigo, are there rocks ahead?"

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 03, 2012, 01:53:17 PM »
The H-sensor is dead. It's an anachronism. It existed because there wasn't enough horsepower under the hood to drive a full-frame sports camera.


That's just not really true at all is it? People keep saying this like FF vs. APS-H has anything to do with "horsepower" as in computing power. Canon had 35mm SLRs that shot 10 fps so it wasn't a mechanics were fine. So, they didn't have the computing power to throw 11.6mp around at 10fps when the 1Ds first came out. But that has nothing to do with the FF sensor. And the APS-H sensor of the 1D line wasn't the reason it could shoot 8.5 and 10fps.

APS-H has it's place and I would love to see it used again in a figure camera. It's a good balance of crop, IQ, and getting to use lenses closer to their intended focal length.

It's not really 'horsepower' in the sense of data throughput.  From that standpoint, 18 MP is 18 MP, whether it's from APS-C or -H or FF, it's the same amount of data.  However, where size matters is in clearing the data from the CMOS sensor itself, which must be 'flushed' after each capture (I recall a firmware update for a camera that fixed 'ghost images' which resulted from incompletely flushing the sensor).  That may have been a limiting factor in achieving high frame rates with FF that technology has solved.

APS-H was a compromise sensor - for some, the best compromise of some crop factor for extra reach with better IQ, for others, a poor compromise between not enough reach and not good enough IQ, with the added problem of a lack of ultrawide capability with available lenses.

Fundamentally, though, I think the real reason we had an APS-H sensor was rooted in the sensor production process.  Why that size, and not some other size?  Because at the time, the APS-H size was the largest dimension that could be imaged onto a silicon wafer in a single pass - FF sensors required 3 passes, which substantially increased production costs (not so much the cost of the passes, but rather the increased QC failure rate resulting from multiple passes).  Today, I believe that FF sensors no longer require 3 passes (perhaps 2 or even 1), and that factor is contributing to the deprioritizing of the APS-H format.

Interesting technical note! I really like the ASP-C because of the reach it gives me... if they would put asp-c in a 1D body...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Pre CES Week: Lenses, Cameras & Compacts
« on: January 03, 2012, 01:52:39 PM »
50 1.4 mk II? 50-300 ef-s? 85-300 f4 (THEY USED TO MAKE ONE!!!  :'()? 8mm ef-s? 50-150 f2 ef-s? Maybe, a 100 f2 IS? 200 2.8 IS?

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How wis it? Post some shots!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: January 03, 2012, 08:36:46 AM »
No one is suggesting that the 7D becomes a APS-H. What is being suggested is that APS-H is not dead and will be in the natural upgrade for the 7D - the so called 3D.
No sign of any reference about APS-H being killed off - sounds like another myth that is being perpetrated

Thanks Brian, as usual you've made some good points.

Personally I don't own an APS-C body or any EF-S glass but can empathize with the handful of xxD and Rebel owners who may feel as though they have painted themselves into a corner with a constrained upgrade path with their 100% EF-S kit.

APS-H? I've valued the format since the original 1D and currently the 1D4. Yep, I do hope it's not being killed off.

Paul Wright

I don't so much like the 7D because of EF-S... I like the reach. I like that the ASP-C sensor gets me places free, where FF and ASP-H would need a Teleconverter...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 03, 2012, 08:35:02 AM »
Indeed. As he mentioned above.

I, however, don't really think we'll see asp-h soon, perhaps ne'er again...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: January 02, 2012, 04:25:34 PM »
And may the mighty engineers of Kwanon push those boundaries evermore!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 02, 2012, 04:22:40 PM »
both are half baked for video. i say no for 7D

I've shot an Indie film with a 7D... looked great, but, the script was horrible, so, no, I won't tell you what it is, but it did look great...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 02, 2012, 03:54:08 PM »
Indeed, they have said the ASP-H is dead... Long Live the APS-C!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 02, 2012, 08:45:50 AM »
Indeed. I would live ASP-C, AND more than 18MP.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: January 01, 2012, 11:23:52 PM »
According to DxO dynamic ranges:

7D: 11.7 evs
5DII : 11.9evs
1D4: 12 evs
1Ds3: 12 evs

So the 7D is the bottom of the pile   ::)

If you fall for DxOMark's skewed, entirely-unrepresentative-of-real-world-use way of getting their figures...

You forget the 5D Mk II's problem with banding/pattern noise at high ISO which chews right into it's usable DR.

I have  the 7D, 5DII and the 1D4 and their tests match my observations. Are you seriously going to tell me that the 7D does landscapes better than the 5DII?, are you seriously going to tell me that the 7D does high iso better than the 5DII? Ah the banding factor - happens at an iso which is well past anything the 7D can think of.

If you have better measurements let us see them.

I don't think that's what he's saying... he's saying that they have very close dynamic ranges... there are other factors to landscape capture than just dynamic range...

For ultimate landscape image quality, get an old crown graphic and upgrade to 4x5...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D Mark II for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: December 31, 2011, 05:00:53 PM »
Who wants a 7D mk2 and not a FF 5Dmk3 with more dynamic range?
Would a 21Mpixel 7D with more dynamic range from a better sensor and digic 5 be worthwhile.
New is good, but why would i upgrade from a 60D?

The 7D has a better dynamic range than the 5DII.......And you're talking about 2 cameras that we know absolutely nothing about, but I'm guessing there won't be that much of a difference, probably less than 1 stop.

According to DxO dynamic ranges:

7D: 11.7 evs
5DII : 11.9evs
1D4: 12 evs
1Ds3: 12 evs

So the 7D is the bottom of the pile   ::)

Seems like not a lot of distance between each other in the pile... seems also that dynamic range has almost nothing to do with sensor size...

Perhaps, it has more to do with programming and other technology?

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