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EOS Bodies / Re: The rift between the vocal "ISOers" and the "MPers"...
« on: December 12, 2011, 12:09:14 PM »
I'm an ISO'er.
50% of what I do is shooting Rock bands. The headline acts are always well illuminated and never an issue, but the guys who come on first sometimes get nothing more than 1 red and 1 green 100W "floodlight", and an occasional other 100W light rotating through colours .
To be able to capture them with minimal blur and noise would make them, and me, very happy
The other 50% is Birds in Flight. Again, shooting between April and September is no problem, but for the winter....Unless it's one of those rare bright blue days, or it's snowed, I leave my camera at home

What's wrong with shooting birds when its overcast? Some of my best pictures are taken in the winter on an overcast day...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?
« on: December 11, 2011, 02:12:13 AM »
The ultimate thing we should ask, is noise always a bad thing?

What is wrong with a grainy photo? EVERYTHING shot back in the old days was grainy when enlarged much (except maybe the 16x20's...) Watch an old 30's movie. Find some old WWII footage or pictures. Is grain always bad?

What is wrong with embracing the grain as an artistic expression?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Interview with Canon "EOS-1D X" high-end strategy
« on: December 11, 2011, 02:08:29 AM »
So what if you use a 1D4 and a 100-400mm? If what I'm reading is true, it won't focus with a 1.4 extender, right? I don't want to give up my flexibility.

Correct. The current 1-series bodies will AF (center point only) with an f/8 combo like f/5.6 + 1.4x or f/4 + 2x. The 1D X will not, it requires f/5.6 for any AF point to function.

For you, at least, there's a viable solution (optically, although not necessarily financially) - the 500mm f/4L IS II + 1.4x III will AF on the 1D X and compensate for the loss of the 1.3x crop factor.  That scenario might even be part of the reason they dropped f/8 support (not that I'm cynical or anything).  But the folks who really get screwed are those who depend on combos where there will be no option going forward (500/4 or 600/4 + 2x, 800/5.6 + 1.4x).

Think they might release a 1DmkV-like thingie with f8 autofocus ever?

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EOS Bodies / Re: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder?
« on: December 09, 2011, 03:54:24 PM »
Those who hate the 7D noise need to grab a roll of Kodak Gold 100 (the cheap kind you can get for like 5 bucks in a drug store) and shoot it, then compare noise levels...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Interview with Canon "EOS-1D X" high-end strategy
« on: December 09, 2011, 04:23:21 AM »
Dude... this thing is weird reading! Backstroke of the West, anyone?  ;D

The nerve of them about the f4 thing... it seems that they're telling everyone who want's 5.6 + TC1.4 (or 4 + TC2) and autofocus to jump in a lake... Arthur Morris, from all he writes on his blog, is nearly glued to his 800 5.6, and often with 1.4x TC... he won't like this change, I predict...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1DX has anyone seen a full rez sample photo yet?
« on: December 09, 2011, 04:17:39 AM »
You may not see a full rez sample until you have preordered two of them.  ;D And you're not allowed to show them  upon pain of death!

Actually, I likewise am interested in seeing the samples...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Wishlist for 5D Mark III
« on: December 09, 2011, 04:14:18 AM »
this is my wishlist for 5D Mark III:

 Autofocus 19/45 cross-type AF points - AF points spread all over the frame
A more accurate spot-meter linked to AF point
Extended Dynamic Range
16-bit color
5-6 Frames per second
100% Viewfinder
User Configurable Auto-ISO
ISO 12800 usable, about 2-3 stops or cleaner than 5D Mark II
GPS
Dual axis electronic level
Bigger, Better and Brighter Screen
Dual card slots
Better weather sealing

if that came true how much would you pay for it? i think it would be around $4k and how many MP do you want it to have? :P

I'd add keep existing battery and body shape so existing L brackets work on it

I don't know, but if I were to get a FF camera, I would totally want it to... do... awesome things I don't know about, because the only FF I've ever shot it my spotmatic... Perhaps a focus assist light, like the yellow one my Sister-in-Law's D90 uses?

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Information [CR1]
« on: December 09, 2011, 04:08:04 AM »
It just seems to me that everyone is missing the point altogether. Please be realistic about what the 5D is actually meant to do. And the market it is intended to address.

The purpose of the 5D Mrk III is not:
-   to be a great professional landscape camera
-   to be a studio camera
-   to make large prints similar to 4” x 5” + film
-   making a majority of photos over 16” x 20”

The market for a 5D Mrk III is for:
-   photo-journalist type work
-   wedding/event photographers
-   walk around FF camera
-   indie videographers
-   making most photos less than 16” x 20”

How do you know this?
Do you work for Canon marketing?

Maybe they were guessing? I don't own one, but the guy I work for just got one, and he is crazy about it. He is an old film guy who used a 5D mark 1 for a while, and regularly made 16x20 and larger prints with it (and they look great!).

My question would be, what camera are we to make >16x20 prints with? Should we bust out Crown Graphic 4x5's? Those old press guys really had it down for style, if nothing else, when using it!

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I have always had a hard time figuring HDR with PS out... My pictures always look pretty bad... I tried ColorEfex, it it seemed to work a lot better...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Information [CR1]
« on: December 08, 2011, 03:21:17 AM »
When is Canon going to make a 21MP (approx) camera that is JUST for still photographers and priced that way?
I am all happy for them..getting into the cine business...but what about us...the still photographers? Two completely different disciplines in my world. We need two completely different cameras. AND...the still camera should be substantially less expensive.
Does anyone agree with this...or am I just whistling Dixie?

You're whistling Dixie.

The real problem being that such a camera would now not sell well enough for Canon to make it worth their while. Reviewers would can it for not having video and just about everyone would stay away from it also because it doesn't have video and just about every other camera does.

I suspect such a camera would sell well, but to a specific crowd. There are indeed those who have little use for video who want a completely stills-optimized camera... Thom Hogan has discussed this in detail on his blog... it would not be a camera for the masses. It would be a camera for the dedicated few. Within its niche, it would sell like hotcakes.

All of which pushes the price up, not down, which is contrary to what the OP wanted.

Which the problem is that there is not cheap solution. I'd love a 7D with a built in grip, and a 600 F4 as a kit lens, for 900.00. This will never happen. Unfortunately, we get what we pay for. Either we lower price and lose features, or specialize and and gett awesomer gear for emptier wallets... Anyway I had forgotten the originaal intent of the post, along the lines of cheapness...
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Right. For a product to be cheap, it needs to be able to sell lots of units to offset the R&D plus manufacturing costs. Taking video out off a camera (or not designing it in) is not going to have a large enough negative offset to the cost to offset the smaller overall market acceptance and sales.

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The best cheap fullframe is probably a used 1V... Otherwise, a person will have to shell out the bucks....

And what's the problem with that?

The best of anything is always more expensive than other offerings. Always.

Got no problem whatsoever with that! Which is why I upgraded to a 7D from the lowly XSI. I wouldn't mind shelling out further dinero for a 7DmkII with better weather sealing, and an LCD on the grip (making it almost like a 1dMKIV, except ASP-C!). Prolly I coulnay top 2500, but I have no problem whatsoever with paying extra for extra.

You get what you pay for. Life is nearly always this way. Those who want 1DX quality and performance will just have to pay 1DX price. Those who want a baby 1Dx will have to endure what a 5DII does to them, at least for the time being. And those who want a Baby 1DX made in the future had better be prepared to be missing whatever Canon Marketing dictates must go for a cheaper FF camera...

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Canon's newest L-series lenses (mark II's and newer releases from the last few years) can resolve up to around 45mp worth of resolution in a FF image circle.


How does 737MP strike you (18 * 4^2 * 1.6^2) with the old 400/2.8?

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1029&message=37493247


Impressive!!! I eagerly await the 7D mkII and the more megapixels hopefully to come...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Information [CR1]
« on: December 06, 2011, 07:21:54 PM »
When is Canon going to make a 21MP (approx) camera that is JUST for still photographers and priced that way?
I am all happy for them..getting into the cine business...but what about us...the still photographers? Two completely different disciplines in my world. We need two completely different cameras. AND...the still camera should be substantially less expensive.
Does anyone agree with this...or am I just whistling Dixie?

You're whistling Dixie.

The real problem being that such a camera would now not sell well enough for Canon to make it worth their while. Reviewers would can it for not having video and just about everyone would stay away from it also because it doesn't have video and just about every other camera does.

I suspect such a camera would sell well, but to a specific crowd. There are indeed those who have little use for video who want a completely stills-optimized camera... Thom Hogan has discussed this in detail on his blog... it would not be a camera for the masses. It would be a camera for the dedicated few. Within its niche, it would sell like hotcakes.

All of which pushes the price up, not down, which is contrary to what the OP wanted.

Which the problem is that there is not cheap solution. I'd love a 7D with a built in grip, and a 600 F4 as a kit lens, for 900.00. This will never happen. Unfortunately, we get what we pay for. Either we lower price and lose features, or specialize and and gett awesomer gear for emptier wallets... Anyway I had forgotten the originaal intent of the post, along the lines of cheapness...

The best cheap fullframe is probably a used 1V... Otherwise, a person will have to shell out the bucks....

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Bit About the 5D Mark III? [CR1]
« on: December 06, 2011, 12:49:44 PM »
Hmmm... this seems interesting... but not enough to get me to jump... maybe some used 5fII's will flood the market...

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i [CR2]
« on: December 05, 2011, 03:04:17 PM »
I wonder what on earth could be improved in the new rebel> I had an XSI, have a family member with a T1i... Big change between the two, bigger still with the T2i... didn't seem to be a lot new with the T3i... What could be advanced on the T4i? An MP count increase would not at all surprise me...

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III Information [CR1]
« on: December 05, 2011, 02:59:47 PM »
When is Canon going to make a 21MP (approx) camera that is JUST for still photographers and priced that way?
I am all happy for them..getting into the cine business...but what about us...the still photographers? Two completely different disciplines in my world. We need two completely different cameras. AND...the still camera should be substantially less expensive.
Does anyone agree with this...or am I just whistling Dixie?

You're whistling Dixie.

The real problem being that such a camera would now not sell well enough for Canon to make it worth their while. Reviewers would can it for not having video and just about everyone would stay away from it also because it doesn't have video and just about every other camera does.

I suspect such a camera would sell well, but to a specific crowd. There are indeed those who have little use for video who want a completely stills-optimized camera... Thom Hogan has discussed this in detail on his blog... it would not be a camera for the masses. It would be a camera for the dedicated few. Within its niche, it would sell like hotcakes.

However, a bet a lot of people would have said that the X100 would have never worked...

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