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EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: January 14, 2013, 06:09:17 AM »
Please help me understand why people are excited about 6D? I cannot be excited about 97% VF, 1 x-pt AF, crippled 6D with wifi and facebook buttons. I will stick to a 5-year-old beloved 5D Mark II which is identical in IQ to Canon's newest sensors. Canon, you are not getting a dime of my money on your recent cameras. I have diversified my lenses so am not hostage to inferior sensors anymore.

I am not excited about the 6D, even though I might end up buying one in a year or so. Depending on what´s avaliable. How come I´m not excited? Well, I dont think they built the camera to be as good as it could be. As a tool, reviews on its own it is probably very ver capable. Looking at it compared to other cameras, not much so. It cost a shedload of money, and still my Rebel has a faster flash sync speed. Also, the VF is not 100%. Outside the 5D2 (discontinued) is it the only dSLR without 100%? And the shutter, with maximum speed of 1/4000. Why? They already have the shutter in 5D3, why not use this? It has a silent mode, like 6D, and can do 1/8000. Using this in another camera model would only make it cheaper (bigger production numbers).
Inferior autofocus, poor weather sealing, all is OK. If we need better here we got the 5D3. The VF and sync speed is to me clearly made to make it worse, to make it fit in a gap in the market, instead of making the camera as good as it can be.
I dont know... because from what I see, the 6D performs great, with IQ second to none. And that quite annoys me, because if I bought it now it would be a great companion, but back in my head I´d always hear the voice saying it could have, and should have, been a little bit better specced.
The top models should distance themselves from the cheap models by way way better specs, not by making the cheaper models deliberately worse. (does that make sense?)
Anyway, as a hobbyist, I might end up with the 6D some day, due to not wanting to spend endless amount of money on a camera body. Walking straight in to Canons trap :)
Oh, BTW, I do love my Rebel!

EOS Bodies / Re: CES 2013: Canon releases?
« on: January 09, 2013, 04:31:29 PM »
It would be nice to see a 7D markII at CP+! But, is 7D considered a professional camera? The event list for CP+ says that Canon has their stand in the General area, not in the "Professional equipment zone".

It is a long shot, but hey, this is a rumor site  :D

Canon General / Re: some money left. what should I buy?
« on: December 21, 2012, 07:23:59 AM »
With all that equipment in the bag already, I´d buy plane tickets to an exotic place, and photograph. That and the Sigma 35mm 1.4.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 6D Rating by DXOMark
« on: December 12, 2012, 02:13:44 PM »
It looks like the 6D is performing very well! It seems like they are polishing the current sensor tech.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon EOS 6D Rating by DXOMark
« on: December 12, 2012, 02:02:28 PM »
No need to take it personal, it is not a bad camera, just because the Nikons are, sensor wise, better pixel by pixel. At least on low ISO. However, the 6D (and other Canons) are the better ones at higher ISO. No big news! The DXO tests does not say which camera is better, just how the sensors perform.

Quite interesting! I think the next generation crop cameras, with the 7DII as the first to be released are gonna have an entire new generation sensors. I dont think Canon dare to release a pro crop camera with the worn out 18mp sensor. That is why it is taking so long.
Some people think that all 18 mp sensors are the same, even though they obviously are not.  If Nikon uses a 18mp semsor, will it be a old worn out Canon sensor?  What about the Nikon D4, its 16mp, must be a old worn out sensor from the Canon 1DS MK II?

I am obviously talking about Canon sensors, this is, after all a Canon forum. You cant deny that Canon have been really good at re-using their 18mp sensor. And I dont know where you have the idea that everybody think that all 18mp sensors are the same, that is news to me. Why should people think that the Nikon D4 sensor is old and worn out? Because it is only 16mp? People that dont like photography may think that mp is an indication of how good a camera is. However, to my knowledge, these people wont know what a D4 is.

I dont know too much about Nikon sensors, other than that their new sensors supposedly are very good, DR wise.

As my prediction about the new sensor in the 7DII, I base that on rumors. We obviously dont know anything, since Canon are keeping their plans secret.

Quite interesting! I think the next generation crop cameras, with the 7DII as the first to be released are gonna have an entire new generation sensors. I dont think Canon dare to release a pro crop camera with the worn out 18mp sensor. That is why it is taking so long.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Renting 6D or 5D mark iii plus lenses?
« on: December 06, 2012, 03:36:34 PM »
First, if renting, I would have insurance! The equipment is expensive, and accidents do happen!

For holliday shooting, street and portraits I´d say 6D. At least if it is a big difference in price. For this type of shooting you dont need the 5D3´s fantastic autofocus. It would only complicate the use. Lens wise? I dont think you can go wrong with either 24-70 or the 24-105. The latter is more flexible due to focal length, but f2.8 is also nice. However, the high iso capabilities of the 6D and 5D3 makes up for the loss in aperture. 6D and 24-105 would be a great travel combination!

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: DigitalRevTV: Canon 6D vs Nikon D600
« on: December 06, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »

Yes, I think this video was released today. I´ll post in your thread about renting.
DigitalRevTV is quite funny and informative at the same time.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / DigitalRevTV: Canon 6D vs Nikon D600
« on: December 06, 2012, 02:40:15 PM »
Canon 6D vs Nikon D600

Quite interesting comparison. The high ISO performance of the 6D is fantastic!

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:05:06 AM »
1/8000, Digic5+, 100% VF and good ISO range... The real specs are better than I feard, watching the rumors. However, the AF-system need to impress before I ever will consider this DSLR. I shoot with the old 9pt. system, and action is not easy!
Other than the AF - system, this look OK. Not mindblowing, but OK.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 15, 2012, 03:12:10 AM »
I think these specs are all bogus. Canon are just trying the Apple PR - method. Say nothing, comment nothing, just release what they want, when they want. They look at these forums and laugh their ass off! Why? Because, if people were not interested in their product they would just ignore them. Instead people are yelling and shouting and cursing, which mean they are dedicated. That is all canon need to know, because their lenses are what keeps the amateur, hobbyist and professional shooters loyal to the canon camp, as they/we are heavily invested in all the glass. P&S buyers and first time DSLR buyers just buy what the salesman says.

So, do I think the 6D is for real with these specs? No, but Canon wont rush to prove otherwise, just because we are yelling at these forums. They really really don´t care, because no matter how much we scream and shout here, when the cameras are in the store, we buy them anyway.

Lenses / Re: lens recommendations for a vacation
« on: September 12, 2012, 04:14:25 AM »
What about 24-105, and try to get your hands on the shorty forty. Should be a good travel pack.

Looking forward to reviews on this one! Probably way out of my price range, but still… Dreaming is free of charge :)

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: rumor: D600 gets 16 Bit processing
« on: September 01, 2012, 02:37:29 AM »
Well, in Nokia's case, they did not have anything that could keep its customers hooked onto Nokia phones like the lenses of Canon & Nikon. But I do agree that arrogance of not taking competition seriously will cost them dearly ... in the 80's Nikon (who was the supreme leader of SLR cameras) did not take Canon AF lenses seriously and it paid very dearly by losing its top position to Canon and has not caught up ever since. Having said that, with the current lens reliant cameras I do not see any problem with either Canon or Nikon losing out to anyone ... at least not until the competition comes up with some incredibly compelling lenses to match the capabilities of the sensors.

A good nights sleep has made me think that my argument is not accurate. Perhaps Canon is taking it´s competition very seriously (ofcourse they are), because Canons cameras are very very capable, perhaps the best, if we see them as a complete package. The arrogance is perhaps against their customers, since many of them are heavily invested in lenses, and jumping ship is first of all very expensive, and sencond, Canon have the best lens lineup of all. That is why they can charge sky high prices for cameras that are not revolutionary, but a carefull evolution of it´s predecessor.

Sorry to have pulled this thread a bit off topic. I look forward to see Canons answer if Nikon is surpassing them on key specifications, like the 16 bit procesing. This is directly linked to the IQ, and therefore more important than AF for me (hobbyist). (And, to be clear, I do want a good AF, but IQ > AF, as AF, light meter and so on are all aids for the sensor to do its job. Crap sensor is still crap even if you have the best AF in the world. AF with some drawbacks can be overcome with technique.)

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