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Canon General / Re: Jessops [UK camera retailer] closes
« on: January 15, 2013, 08:36:59 AM »
I think you've hit the nail right on the head.  If you are an authorised reseller then you must sell at Apple / Canons / Oakleys blah blah blah prices.

Independents may be able to compete in terms of discounts on add ons, such as cases (where there is considerable mark up) or clubcard points if you are tesco.

It's all about perceived brand value.  And why the companies had a clause that Jessops return their stock rather than see a fire sale.

Canon may open up the CPS scheme as an added value incentive, or have training events, talks etc.

Unfortunately my experience of Apple Stores is that they've never opened up a mac pro, and all they want to do is get you on to the latest OS.

Yes! I'm still on good old Leopard :] I think Apple make their stores work finically by having a minimal amount in only major cities, which seems to be what Canon is planning with it's stores but I think another problem Canon stores will have is their product lifecycle: an L lens will outlast the buyer if treated well. Apple get by on the fact that alot of users update their products every few years. [except the MacBooks and iMacs, even though you'd be hard pressed to fix one nowadays with them glueing everything in place  :-\]

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Canon General / Re: Jessops [UK camera retailer] closes
« on: January 15, 2013, 07:52:52 AM »
you say another blow for the high street.. but how much do you buy on the web and how much on the high street...

Probably about 60/40 in favour of shops if I'm honest. I bought my Sony Nex 5N from Jessops and buy games and dvds from shops but I did most of my Christmas shopping online as I don't like the crowds. I still enjoy going to shops and browsing and have bought all my camera gear from stores [mainly Jacobs, that went bust also]
Yes, I believe it is a blow. It's more people unemployed and less interesting high streets but yet I also believe that you can't blame people for shopping online for cheaper prices, it's natural to want to spend less. It's just an unfortunate situation for some, that can't really be avoided.

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Canon General / Jessops [UK camera retailer] closes
« on: January 15, 2013, 06:22:04 AM »
Sad news for it's staff and another blow to the uk high streets. With HMV sure to follow, its only going to be a few years until there is nothing left but coffee shops, eateries and clothes shops in city centres.
I just can't see the old business model of having a big 'bricks and mortar' presence working for a lot of companies now.

It got me thinking of these new 'Canon Stores', obviously it's a take on Apple stores and if it has a technical support area and a sensor cleaning/general servicing area, then cool right? Yeah, but how much revenue would come from people paying for the service as opposed to people using the warranty period? The only way I see them surviving the long run is if the in store prices can match popular online vendors. If a stores that sold a wide range of P&S's, Mirrorless,  DSLR's, lenses and accessories  from: Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Samsung and others has gone bust, then what chance does a store chance if they just sell Canon products at max RRP? 

Aping Apple is just not a smart move for most companies. If you buy a new mac [not older models] from the Apple store it will cost you 'lets say' '£1,000', if you buy it from the online Apple store it will cost you £1,000, if you buy it from another vendor it will cost you '£1,000'. Therefore, you feel comfortable walking into the store and shelling out the cash, knowing that it's not cheaper elsewhere.
You can still shop around for deals with camera gear and I doubt these Canon stores will offer the best prices.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: right now i am not happy to be a canon user
« on: December 20, 2012, 09:08:04 AM »
The nikkon D600 is an amazing price, a whole lot cheaper than the canons. Whilst I'm thinking of getting one myself, I'v noticed that you generally pay a bit more for the nikon lenses. Probably ok if your only getting 2 or 3 but any more and I think the saving on the body will start to disappear. Indeed, this seems to be nikons strategy: cheap bodies and make the money on lenses.

aehhm... have you noticed the price of the new canon lenses?

yes you get 20 year old canon lens designs for a good price .. i agree.
but i don´t see nikon beeing more expensive on new lens designs.

but maybe that´s a question of the country you live in too.

Obviously the newer stuff is more expensive like the 24-70 ii compared to nikons 24-70, but the old model was always a bit cheaper than nikons. I find that in the UK at least, comparing equivalent lenses that are a few years old, the nikons are generally slightly more expensive but like you pointed out, this will probably vary from country to country 

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: right now i am not happy to be a canon user
« on: December 20, 2012, 07:03:00 AM »
+1 on digital rev
5Dmkiii £ 1995
6D        £1568
D600     £1199 [limited 1 day offer/usual price is £1250]
D800     £1869

The nikkon D600 is an amazing price, a whole lot cheaper than the canons. Whilst I'm thinking of getting one myself, I'v noticed that you generally pay a bit more for the nikon lenses. Probably ok if your only getting 2 or 3 but any more and I think the saving on the body will start to disappear. Indeed, this seems to be nikons strategy: cheap bodies and make the money on lenses.

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Portrait / Re: Need some advice- shooting at Staples Center
« on: December 20, 2012, 06:38:45 AM »
Thats good to hear and the exposure values seem very reasonable for an indoor shoot, not to heavy on the iso. I think when shooting indoors, we all stress out and think that we need f1.8 lenses and 64000 iso but can often get by on lower iso and smaller apertures. Sometimes indoor lighting can be pretty decent.

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Portrait / Re: Need some advice- shooting at Staples Center
« on: December 19, 2012, 07:28:28 PM »
I would take the 24-105 and the 50. depending on the lighting, you may or not get by with the 24-105 but the 50 will get it done if the lighting is lacking for f4. Only prob then is your limited to 1 focal length and I find it a bit of a difficult one on crop. Hopefully you should be fine with the 24-105.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Quick 5Dmkiii WiFi Question
« on: December 19, 2012, 06:15:27 PM »
Ok thanks, guess I'll leave the wifi for now  :-[

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Quick 5Dmkiii WiFi Question
« on: December 19, 2012, 07:56:57 AM »
Wow! is that how much it is!?! Thats craaaaazy!
On second thoughts, I can live without wifi lol, but just out of interest, can it do the same stuff, connect to your phone etc?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Quick 5Dmkiii WiFi Question
« on: December 19, 2012, 07:15:29 AM »
Hi all!
I was just wondering if anyone could enlighten me on the 5dmkiii wifi functions? If you get the wifi add-on can you use the same phone app as on the 6d and get all the same features? It would come in handy if I bought a 6d but I'm more inclined to go that last mile and fork out for the 5dmkiii.
Cheers!

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Software & Accessories / Re: Stop Using Instagram
« on: December 18, 2012, 09:15:21 AM »
Good post/information dr croubie

I might be wrong, but I can't see them getting away with this long term....people that produce good photos WILL stop using them, and instagram will be left with poor quality/uninteresting amateur point and shoot and mobile phone shots.

Not so. Instagram KNOWS that the average person will not change their habits.
...and Instagram was just bought by Facebook.
I know I am in the minority....but I would NEVER have a Facebook page.  The reasons are just too many to list....WAY too many. It's just not a safe or very intelligent thing to do. Truly.

I had a Facebook page about 3 years ago but canceled it. I can see the value in it sometimes but I survived a long time before facebook arrived and hopefully will still be doing so after it has gone.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Stop Using Instagram
« on: December 18, 2012, 07:58:12 AM »
Why the big uproar?! In the current economic climate I think it's a good thing that a small local business like Facebook will buy instagram and make a good use of all these photos. They can then sell the photos to other poor companies that cant afford to hire a photographer. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history!

You are joking right?

Yeah I'm joking, did the montypython quote not give it away? I guess if you don't know the quote, then you don't know it. No harm done

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Software & Accessories / Re: Stop Using Instagram
« on: December 18, 2012, 07:43:11 AM »
Why the big uproar?! In the current economic climate I think it's a good thing that a small local business like Facebook will buy instagram and make a good use of all these photos. They can then sell the photos to other poor companies that cant afford to hire a photographer. Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history!

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Problem: slow AF 6D
« on: December 17, 2012, 03:17:30 PM »
Cool, please let us know what you think of the d600. I am hoping to get a full frame soon and I was looking at 6d or 5dmkiii but the d600 is so cheap it's insane! I'v seen it for £1250 on digital rev. It might even break the £1,000 barrier in another 6 months or so

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Problem: slow AF 6D
« on: December 17, 2012, 09:04:14 AM »
I don't have the camera so I can't offer a comparison as to how fast the autofocus should be. However if I was in your situation, I would take it back to the store and ask to test it against the store's display model to see if there is any difference in speed. If you bought it online then I guess you could still try the same approach, I doubt they would refuse you.
Anyway good luck.

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