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Canon: All right. Who makes the sensor? The battle of wits has begun. It ends when you decide and we both take pictures, and find out who has Canon... and who has Sony.
Rumours guy: But it's so simple. All I have to do is divine from what I know of you: are you the sort of man who would put the sensor into his own camera or his enemy's? Now, a clever man would put the sensor into his own camera, because he would know that only a great fool would reach for what he was given. I am not a great fool, so I can clearly not choose the camera in front of you. But you must have known I was not a great fool, you would have counted on it, so I can clearly not choose the camera in front of me.
Canon: You've made your decision then?
Rumours guy: Not remotely. Because sony sensors are designed in Australia, as everyone knows, and Australia is entirely peopled with criminals, and criminals are used to having people not trust them, as you are not trusted by me, so I can clearly not choose the camera in front of you.
Canon: Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
Rumours guy: Wait till I get going! Now, where was I?
Canon: Australia.
Rumours guy: Yes, Australia. And you must have suspected I would have known the sensor's origin, so I can clearly not choose the camera in front of me.
Canon: You're just stalling now.
Rumours guy: You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? You've shot with a 1DX and 1200F5.6, which means you're exceptionally strong, so you could've put the sensor in your own camera, trusting on your strength to save you, so I can clearly not choose the camera in front of you. But, you've also bested my Tamron, which means you must have studied, and in studying you must have learned that man is mortal, so you would have put the sensor as far from yourself as possible, so I can clearly not choose the camera in front of me.
Canon: You're trying to trick me into giving away something. It won't work.
Rumours guy: IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHAT THE sensor IS!
Canon: Then make your choice.
Rumours guy: I will, and I choose - IS THAT A NEW PHOTOSHOP RELEASE?
Canon: [Rumours guy gestures up and away from the table. Canon Exec looks. Rumours guy swaps the cameras]
Canon: What? Where? I don't see anything.
Rumours guy: Well, I- I could have sworn I saw an upgrade. No matter. First, let's shoot. Me from my camera, and you from yours.
Canon, Rumours guy: [Rumours guy and the Canon exec shoot]
Canon: You guessed wrong.
Rumours guy: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched cameras when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against a Sicilian when photography is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
Rumours guy: [Rumours guy stops suddenly, his smile frozen on his face and falls to the ground dead]
Neuro: And to think, all that time it was your camera that had a canon sensor.
Canon: They were both canon sensors. Sony is building to our design.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: Today at 10:37:04 PM »
Don Haines selfie appears to be the grim reaper  :o
That's right! Don't mess with me or it's Death by Squirrel!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: Today at 09:14:51 PM »
Has anyone stopped to consider how disgusting humans look in 1080p close-ups and that 4K, 8K etc. are truly terrifying developments?...
I find it amazing how you can take a picture, and then pixel peep to see details you would never notice in the real world....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: Today at 08:30:47 PM »
O.k., I know we're talking about rumors here but I wonder what that rumored 53MP Resolution will actually be. 8910x5940 or 8940x5960 or 8970 x 5980? Something even more odd? Why not just 54MP (9000x6000)?

9000x6000 ... will come first in a mid 2018 Apple iMac and/or a Dell monitor ... when evyery other company aorund brings 8k monitors, they'll have it at "9k". Just like their late 2014 "5k" devices.  8) 

That would more likely be an 11K display, 5K is almost twice the pixel count of 4K (14MP vs. 8MP), where 9K would just be 25% more than 8K.

It really depends on the bandwidth of the connectors though, Displayport 1.3 tops out at either 4K@120Hz or 5K@60Hz.
I supposed given that 8K is supposed to be a 120Hz specification, it would make sense that some manufacturers would try to make a 60Hz panel for whatever connector they happen to come up with that supports 8K. However, I really hope that everyone just switches to using a 120Hz refresh rate industry wide, it makes a big difference in motion quality and at that point we won't be hurting for resolution like we are now (yes, 1920x1080 is super jaggy and we've had equivalent resolutions on PC since the mid 90's).


In 1974 I had a 800x480 4096 colour graphics display. It took almost 30 years to double that resolution and now 8K screens are starting to appear as prototypes. This is a very quick jump in a relatively short time.... some believe that displays will plateau at 16K... whatever you believe, we are living in exciting times for digital imaging.

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this looks definitely fishy... I don't think Canon will exchange DPAF for more DR...
That would help much on Sony's already strong video business...

Canon may do what Nikon does: deliver a design to Sony for fabrication rather than fabricate it in-house.
FINALLY! Someone gets it!

Just because Sony fabricates it does not mean they designed it. The place where I work has been sending designs out for fabrication for 40 years.... we hold the patents, they sign an NDA. No fabrication house is ever going to violate an NDA (Non Disclosure Agreement) because if they do they will lose all future business from everyone and get sued back to the dark ages. Heck, during the "cold war" we were testing satellites for the Russians and the Americans.... competitors WILL use the same service if that service is the best.

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Reviews / Re: Impressions from 7DMkII and Comparison to 7D
« on: Today at 06:59:22 PM »
Such low level screen dumps are close to useless for comparisons.


What do you mean with low level? The resolution is limited ba the moderators. I do this the first time. In my blog they are full resolution... This means that I have to treat them diferently for this forum. right?


And you can see what is important: The 7D2 shows at each Iso level a higher level of contrast as well as color depth.


The images were taken as jpg. because at the time I shot them no Raw engine was available..

You posted these months after raw engines have been available.  The rest of us manage to post 100% crops etc that can be evaluated on this site.


AlanF: Thank You for your remarks. In Future I will use the 100% crops, too... The Post on this page was done month after
1 I took the images
2 I wrote a blog entry in my blog in my photographic website
3 after the moderators here killed my links - sorry for that, they did it against there statements without any warning or message- I decided to publish these images here: you see the date taken in the file name. The raw converter came one or two weeks later
4 I am an amateur. I do have some time to write a blog and to follow the discussions or start discussions. I am in a learning phase in this matter... I do the same on m43 where I do not have any issues Witte the moderators doing exactly the same....


I see it as a big compliment, that people on this side consider me as a real professional...
BTW, just in case nobody else has said it yet, Welcome to the forum!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: Today at 05:20:46 PM »
Quote
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_1d_c

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_c500

And when you step into those two models, you're in the RED Scarlet price range

Which you previously showed to be within your budget. Canon makes 4K Raw cameras. What you want is an inexpensive Canon 4K rig. Assuming the thermal design of the rumored body is adequate, I don't see any reason Canon wouldn't enable it (as at that point it would be largely software).

Either way, the notion that an iPhone will record 4k before a Canon camera is demonstrably false. ;)



[If video were my thing and I had the budget, I'd go down the RED path too]
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulmonckton/2015/01/13/4k-video-on-iphone-6/2/

Do you believe it was announced before the C500 or 1Dc?
certainly not :) , but they did beat Canon to a sub $1000 device.... after all, my comment was about the part above bolded and in green,  and neither the C500 or 1Dc is inexpensive..

and all that said, I would be willing to bet that the video from something like a 70D up-sampled to 4K would beat any video coming out of an iPhone.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: Today at 03:37:11 PM »
Quote
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_1d_c

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras/eos_c500

And when you step into those two models, you're in the RED Scarlet price range

Which you previously showed to be within your budget. Canon makes 4K Raw cameras. What you want is an inexpensive Canon 4K rig. Assuming the thermal design of the rumored body is adequate, I don't see any reason Canon wouldn't enable it (as at that point it would be largely software).

Either way, the notion that an iPhone will record 4k before a Canon camera is demonstrably false. ;)



[If video were my thing and I had the budget, I'd go down the RED path too]
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulmonckton/2015/01/13/4k-video-on-iphone-6/2/

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what so many people seem to forget is that Sony sensors work better at low ISO and canon sensors work best at high ISO. Nobody is best across the board. I think it would be a step backwards for the industry to just pick one.

Another point that needs to be made is that you can outsource the production of your design. It is very possible that Sony can produce a Canon design of sensor more economically than in house at Canon.

This entire thread is wild speculation. We know nothing. Time to relax with a good book or go take some pictures. The universe will unfold as it will, no need getting upset or excited over such small things...


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lots of speculation...
little is known....

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When taking a panorama of close up items, parallax comes into play. It is present in longer distances, but as things get closer, it gets more prominent.

When you take the panorama, you set the camera up on a tripod, take a shot, rotate the camera, take another shot, and so on.... The less you rotate between shots, the less likely you are to get kinks in lines that should be straight. Better software, such as AutoPano (expensive) will curve those joints and they will be less prominent, or will allow you to select different projection models to minimize the curves.

The parallax problem mentioned above is because you want the focal point of the lens to be centered above the pivot point of the tripod, not the camera. To do this, you need a tripod mount that allows you to slide the camera back and forth until you find the spot. You can tell by looking through the viewfinder as you rotate the camera. If foreground objects move relative to background objects as you rotate, you have parallax problems and should slide the camera back and forth to minimize the effect. If you don't do this, you get differences between frames of your panorama and it will give you strange artifacts when stitched.

Hope this helps....

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Lenses / Re: 400 DO II continues to test out as superb
« on: January 27, 2015, 08:39:05 PM »
Equals/surpasses 300 f/2.8 II

Roger at Lens Rentals has additional testing:

http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/01/more-canon-400m-do-ii-comparisons

I wonder when the 800 DO will appear :)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: The Canon EOS-7D Mark II AF Grid Void
« on: January 27, 2015, 07:05:56 PM »
My 6yrs will be joining golf team next month. There are two options come to mind

1. CPW-street price 600mm II
2. Cheaper way - 7d II + current 400mm f2.8 IS II

  ???
That's sort of my thought as well, and eventually the sun rises high enough in the sky to use lower ISOs than my 1D X :)

This AF issue really seems to be annoying Art Morris, but I wanted to see if anyone else has been annoyed.
It's annoying, but in a minor way.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: The Canon EOS-7D Mark II AF Grid Void
« on: January 27, 2015, 12:31:46 PM »
I noticed that too.

It is annoying.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: January 27, 2015, 11:57:56 AM »
The MOST important factor for Canon to gain ground in mirrorless world is EF adapter to mirrorless. If they can come up with adapter with decent AF speed, better than current ones on the market, I think that will give Sony, Fuji etc... good run.

Enlighten me on why they need an (EF adaptor to mirrorless) "adaptor to mirrorless with decent AF speed"?

In what way does the current EF-EOS M Mount Adaptor affect "AF speed"? And how would you improve it?

Or are you talking about some other adaptor?

EF-M lenses were designed to mount to EOS-M directly, no adaptor needed.

For Canon shooters, standard EF and L lenses are as good as gold. These lenses can still be used with EOS-M system with an adaptor, however, AF speed becomes slower.
 
“how would you improve it?” -  I leave that to Canon.
I think DPAF would allow significant improvements in speed... Of course, the 1 series cameras have a higher battery voltage and as long as the EOS-M sticks to 7.2V, even with the best of AF systems on an EOS-M, the 1 Series at 11.1 volts allows 2.4 times the power to the AF motors (some lenses) and that gives much quicker movement of the elements.

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