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Messages - Don Haines

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Solid rumours I'd put any money on come along very rarely. I personally discount almost anything that's more than 4 months out from an announcement.

I still can't fathom why the camera makers are so secretive, when companies like Intel and Microsoft provide roadmaps into future announcements.
Because these are two very different industries when you look at their markets;
Intel (especially)
The regular customer doesn't buy much direct from them.

Okay, then why do automobile companies do something quite similar, and telegraph their model replacements or refreshes usually more than a year in advance, and their technologies many years in advance?
Car makers are a stagnant market with very little change from year to year.... mostly cosmetic changes. No real surprises anywhere... As a point in case, with pickup trucks the big thing this year is GM with a step in the corner of the bumper.... that's it! That's all! Kind of pathetic for innovation and change but in the car world that's big stuff..... Similarly, when Canon put a mode dial that spun all the way around on a rebel they were ridiculed, yet it is the same degree of innovation....

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In preparation for the introduction of the 7D Mark II I already have buyers for my 7D. Based on the technlogies in the 1D X, 5D3, 6D, 70D, 700D, 100D, 1200D and even M2 it will be flagship APS-C body with all the technological trimmings one could ever wish for. It will outdo anything Nikon or Sony has in the market.

LOL.  ;D

Laugh if you like, he is most likely correct.  The 7D was the pinnacle of the APS-C segment, too.  You do realize we're talking about cameras, not just sensors, right?   ::)
+1

By far, the most important aspect of getting a good picture (after the photographer) is the AF system. As I am fond of saying, who cares what the DR is of a blurry picture :) The 7D was king of the APS-C cameras for 5 years with it's balance of features and even now, it is arguable if the 70D is better... (I think it is)

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: IS on when filming on tripod?
« on: June 24, 2014, 08:48:50 AM »
OFF!

The image will shake and you can hear the IS working.

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Yes.

I got my hands on an 800F5.6 lens and an FD to EOS converter. I found that my 70-200 lens could resolve more distant detail than the 800.....

The newest round of Canon L-glass is of far higher quality than the FD lenses were. The improvements are astounding. When you weigh those improvements against the image degradation caused by a converter, it's hard to get serious about the old lenses.....

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR vs Mirrorless :: Evolution of cameras
« on: June 23, 2014, 09:40:10 PM »

The moral of the story? If your a discourteous, tromping wannabe who has to keep on the move because your too impatient to set up, sit, and wait for natures beauty to come to you in comfort...then a tiny light weight mirrorless with a tiny light weight lens is probably for you. You won't get the same action-grabbing performance, you won't have the same ergonomics (those mirrorless cams and lenses are TI-NY...like, toy tiny, like, barely fits in your hands tiny...like, WTF am I doing with a TOY with that BEAUIFUL BIG BIRD in front of me?!?!? OMG!), your IQ won't be as good (or maybe it will if you drop some dough on the FF A7r, but then you'll really be suffering on the AF and ergonomics front).

Anyway...mirrorless has it's place. They have their uses and their benefits.  But, every time I encounter a die-hard mirrorless user, my experiences tend to be similar to the above. Mirrorless users are ALWAYS on the move. Moving moving moving moving. No patience, no time to wait and let things just happen around you. MOVING. I totally understand why they are fanatics about mirrorless...but wow...slow down and enjoy something, enjoy life happening around you every once in a while! :P

makes me smile.....

my birding setup includes a camping chair and a good book :) and while I was reading today Harry came past to check me out...

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As for major sporting events the next ones are the 2016 Sumner Games in Brazil, 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia and 2018 Winter Games in Korea.

I dont know of any major sporting event in 2015 so my bet is the new 1-Series body will be out sometime in 2016.

The Rugby World Cup is a truly massive sporting event, and will take place in 2015. It will take place in England. I can't wait, as am already looking forward to it!!!  ;D

World cup of Cricket also happens early 2015. Thats three major events in 2015!
and the Constance Bay Ice Fishing tournament. That makes four!

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR vs Mirrorless :: Evolution of cameras
« on: June 23, 2014, 06:07:04 PM »
A break through that makes them attractive to buyers in the USA and Europe is needed before they move into mainstream.
 
I'm hoping for that, but I  am a bit dubious about it happening.
+1

I think that they are the future, but they have to be better than what we have now for that future to come true.

When the first digital cameras came out, some said that they were the future and most ridiculed them..... and here we are 20 years later and very few people would go back to film. The same will be true of mirrorless, but we are not there yet.... getting close, but not there.

Canon's EOS-M failed because it is inferior and has a slow AF. Slap dual-pixel tech into it and it would be a nice camera. I still think that it was designed for dual-pixel but because of delays in that project (guessing here) was rushed to market too soon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR vs Mirrorless :: Evolution of cameras
« on: June 23, 2014, 01:49:35 PM »
So here's the question....

Let's say Canon comes out with the 7D2 and it is mirrorless and through some new technology, the EVF works as good or better than an OVF.... and they keep the same flange distance so all the EF and EF-S lenses work on it.... So what else happens?

For starters, no mirror means less vibrations and the elimination of mechanical parts. It also opens up the possibility of FAST burst rates like 30fps.

Doing the focus on the sensor means you never have to AFMA a lens again.

and speaking of focus, you now have the ability to track items or people. your focus can track that bird flying through the trees and not lock on a branch...

You have the ability to show lots of new information on the EVF, to manipulate images, preview, zebras, whatever, without having to take the camera down from your eye and look at the rear screen.

In other words, you have a digital camera that starts to act like a digital camera and leave the last restriction of film behind.


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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D mark 2 crop vs full frame
« on: June 23, 2014, 12:20:33 PM »
I posted this in another 7D mk II thread but wanted to mention it here as well. I have decided that I would be willing to bet money (if I had any money) that this camera will have 30+ MP, and that, in Q1 of 2015, a camera will be released from Canon which will have 40-50 MP. Call me crazy.

It might go 23-24mp, anything higher in a APS-C would cause big technical issues trying to achieve a 10 fps speed.  The amount of data to process is too much.
 
Since it will have likely have dual pixel technology, you could claim that its 50mp, but the dual pixel output is combined before saving to a memory card.  There is a possibility that those dual pixels will do more than autofocus, like improving DR, but the specs will be in the low 20 mp range.
I'd argue with you about the amount of data to process being too much....

Look at the 60D... it has a DIGIC4 and saves to SD cards. We now have DIGIC6 which has 20 times the processing power.... When the 60D came out with it's SDHC cards the maximum transfer speed was 25Mbytes per second and now we have SDXC-UHS2 cards which support up to 2Tbytes of storage and up to 312Mbytes per second storage.. this improvement in technology is easily enough to double the frame rate plus double the pixel count of a 60D so handling a 36Mpixel sensor at 10 frames per second is not a hard task.

Don,
My comment had to do with the internal readout of the sensor and the processor.  That's why the 7D and 1D series use dual processors, to get the data flow that's needed.  A 50MP raw image before it is compressed by the processor will be well over 200MB.  Jpeg images are very highly compressed, but the processor must work very hard to compress a 200MB+ image to jpeg size.  After that, write speeds are not the issue.
 
SDXC UHS cards are still limited to slow write speeds after their first use and a normal in camera format like most users do.  Some are misled by reading specifications, they are for new cards only, or for those that have undergone the slow process of erasing.  Just doing a regular format in camera does not erase a card, so a SD card must erase a whole block of used sectors before they can be written to. That's why they say "up to" in the spec.
 
Hopefully, a 7D MK II would have dual CF slots, which will not be a write speed limitation.
I think that if they wanted to, that they could read out a large pixel count sensor more than 10 times per second.... and yes, dual DIGICs really helps a lot. After all, I have a 60Ghz spectrum analyzer sitting on the bench next to my desk.... you can design some insanely fast electronics if you really want to.

Although most of us think in terms of bytes, I/O knows no such bounds. Reading a sensor is a massively parallel operation and instead of reading one byte or word at a time, they can be designed to be read hundreds of bits at a time, and even rows at a time into an internal buffer on the sensor. ultimately it comes down to design decisions and architecture.

However we slice it, even with dual cFast cards, the real bottleneck is going to be dumping it to storage. A good buffer can help a lot there, but ultimately, the buffer fills and things slow down.

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EOS Bodies / Re: What do you hope-for MOST from Canon in 2014
« on: June 23, 2014, 09:21:12 AM »
a wifi interface where the tablet IS the screen/buttons/dials of the camera body.

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Looking at the Northlight website and going back quite a few months there seems to be a lot of "throw mud at the wall and see if it sticks" going on.

I'm sure replacements are in the works. When will we see them is the question...so in the meantime enjoy what you've got. :)
Don't forget that northlight said that the release of the 7D2 was only a month or so away....... And announced that a year and a half ago..... With a spec list that was inferior to the 70D and no mention of DPAF. I don't believe anything they claim.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1DX2 5D4 to be announced in January/ February 2015
« on: June 22, 2014, 08:33:15 PM »

And, Merlin is telling them what will be useful in 5 years as well as what the competition is planning. Or better yet, Tom Cruise is an agent of Canon (cue MI theme music), covertly breaking into both Sony & Nikon camps so that Canon can stay 2 steps ahead of the competition.
It is a very safe bet that Canon, Nikon, and Sony are spying on each other. Industrial espionage is a big thing.

Three kilometers down the road from where I work is the Nortel campus. After the company failed and a new buyer was found for the buildings, they started to renovate. The bugs found in the place are a who's who of telecom companies and governments.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 7D mark 2 crop vs full frame
« on: June 22, 2014, 08:26:10 PM »
I posted this in another 7D mk II thread but wanted to mention it here as well. I have decided that I would be willing to bet money (if I had any money) that this camera will have 30+ MP, and that, in Q1 of 2015, a camera will be released from Canon which will have 40-50 MP. Call me crazy.

It might go 23-24mp, anything higher in a APS-C would cause big technical issues trying to achieve a 10 fps speed.  The amount of data to process is too much.
 
Since it will have likely have dual pixel technology, you could claim that its 50mp, but the dual pixel output is combined before saving to a memory card.  There is a possibility that those dual pixels will do more than autofocus, like improving DR, but the specs will be in the low 20 mp range.
I'd argue with you about the amount of data to process being too much....

Look at the 60D... it has a DIGIC4 and saves to SD cards. We now have DIGIC6 which has 20 times the processing power.... When the 60D came out with it's SDHC cards the maximum transfer speed was 25Mbytes per second and now we have SDXC-UHS2 cards which support up to 2Tbytes of storage and up to 312Mbytes per second storage.. this improvement in technology is easily enough to double the frame rate plus double the pixel count of a 60D so handling a 36Mpixel sensor at 10 frames per second is not a hard task.

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If this is true, and Canon feels that this "new technology" about to be debuted in the 7D2 is so good that the rest of the lineup must have it, it must be something big!

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Animal Kingdom / Re: Show your Bird Portraits
« on: June 22, 2014, 07:10:24 PM »
having a snack in the back yard....

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