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Messages - Don Haines

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All's well that ends well :)

BTW...what's a "Cheque"? ;D

Up here in Canada, a "Cheque" is a promissory note, and a "Check" is deliberate bodily contact, as is "Check him into the boards" in a hockey game.... If a large person runs towards you, better hope they intend the former, not the latter...

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My interpretation...

Wire transfer goes into Adorama account holding area. Later, a human being looks at it and for whatever reason (suspicious due to no address...or maybe they just hate money or don't like customers from your state) decides to not accept to deposit it, maybe even after input from a supervisor (ie refuses it). Then, that human being or even another person, starts the process to wire it back to your bank. This maybe takes a day or 2 or 3. When you call (angry worried upset etc), you talk to someone who doesn't have all the correct facts or doesn't explain it well to you.

Perhaps not the greatest customer service to you since they certainly didn't have answers that made you comfortable or happy. Sometimes stating something that is not correct is not lying (I see this all the time and it is usually due to ignorance).

Being one state away, I might have gotten a cashiers check and taken a one day trip to NYC.

+1

I wouldn't personally trust any bank to wire 20k+. I'd much rather go withdraw the money in non-sequential un-marked $20 bills, and go shop personally at Adorama. Think how many people would post your picture at various places as you open the brief case at the cashier and hand over sh**load of money. Your 15 minutes of fame.

LOL...I tried that once with a briefcase full of Monopoly money. My fame only lasted 15 seconds till they caught on ;D

edit-$27,000 in $20 would be 1,350 bills; hence the cashier's check for safety and convenience

I did that once with "Canadian Tire money".... I bought a $350 bicycle....

For all you non-Canadians.... Canadian Tire is a local hardware chain and they have a rewards program that consists of "Canadian Tire Money" that comes in denominations like $0.03, $0.05, $0.10..... so $350 worh of Canadian Tire Money would be a pile similar in size to about $250,000 of real money. The cashier was NOT amused.....

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Now try crossing international borders.....

I've bought stuff (at work) where we had to send money from Canada to a company in the US.... and it took three weeks to clear through the banks.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Big Megapixel Discussion
« on: June 11, 2013, 06:24:57 PM »
WE WANT BETTER PIXELS

NOT JUST MORE OF THEM!


Your pixels will be smaller....

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Lenses / Re: What is the next Canon lens you want or covet and why...
« on: June 09, 2013, 10:54:25 PM »
50f1.8 ?

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Animal Kingdom / Re: Your best animal shots!
« on: June 09, 2013, 08:25:29 PM »
MUST.... CRAM.... MORE..... SEEDS......INTO...... CHEEKS!!!!!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: remote shooting
« on: June 07, 2013, 06:14:57 PM »
There are also active USB extension cables that would allow you to use your computer for tethered shooting from much further away.....


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Manfroto 190CX3.

This is a carbon fibre tripod with 3 section legs. It is very solid. To remove the center column, you unhook the bottom 2 inches of the column, remove the column, and then mount that last section into the hole you pulled the column out of. Weight is 40 ounces (1.15Kg) and it is LOW! (Top is about 3 inches, or 8 cm, above ground level at lowest position)

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Lenses / Re: 200-400 f4 and the "new" 100-400 zoom
« on: June 07, 2013, 04:10:20 PM »
I know that in my field, software development, the project invariably ends up costing twice what the experts thought, and more like 5x-10x what an non-expert would think.  So i'd say to take whatever you think it cost and multiply by 4x or more, and that's probably what it actually cost.  However unlikely it seems to me right now.  $50,000,000 to develop a lens?  That sure seems crazy to me.  But if lens development is anything like software development, it's probably true.

I'm just wildly guessing here without any actual knowledge, but let's say a hypothetical project team of 4 optics designers, 4 mechanical engineers, 4 electronics engineers+programmers, 4 testers, a half-dozen managers, a dozen other misc support+manufacturing+marketing people.  That's about 35 people there, for say 2 years each.  Let's say average cost/year at $400K per person for salary+benefits+equipment.  Now we're already at $28,000,000 development costs here.  And i don't think i've even included prototype build costs.

Woo hoo, my first post!

Welcome to the forum.....

My numbers were all wild guesses..... but a new lens is not cheap... there is the design, fabrication of several prototypes, testing, more fabrication of prototypes and testing until they feel they have it right, and then there is the setup of a production line... printing...graphics design.... I can see a high end lens easily getting up to several tens of millions of dollars to get into production....

A kit lens may sell a million copies.... make $50 profit per lens and you put money in the bank. A high end lens may only sell 10,000 copies.... much harder to make back the cost of getting it into production....

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Lenses / Re: 200-400 f4 and the "new" 100-400 zoom
« on: June 07, 2013, 08:25:40 AM »
First 200-400.... probably about $50,000,000 to build...
second 200-400, probably about $5000 to build...and canon probably makes around $2500 profit per lens
To make their money back they have to sell 20,000 lenses.... a tough target to hit.

First 100-400.... probably about $20,000,000 to build...
second 100-400, probably about $200 to build and canon probably makes $500 profit per lens.
To make their money back they have to sell 100,000 lenses.... an easy target to hit.

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Lenses / Re: Why Does the 100-400L Sell So Well Still ?
« on: June 06, 2013, 11:33:34 PM »
You know what I mean! A new version with exceptional sharpness (just like 200-400's sharpness in comparison to 400 f/2.8's as Roger Cicala mentioned) will affect sales of 200-400. True some determined professionals will prefer the f/4 but many may choose the new 100-400 if portability is of paramount importance (we all grow older). On the other hand I guess the new 100-400 would sell extremely well!!!   

So, the one that is twice as fast and heavier with a more tank-like build won't sell as well, except to dedicated professionals - so why should Canon make the cheaper one that would sell extremely well?  Remind me...why is there a 5DIII? Because my initial statement could just as well describe the 1D X.

There's a place for both...
I often hear the statement that cannon will not come out with a lower or mid range version of a product because it will cut into sales of the top of the line unit. I couldn't disagree more.... it's the millions of lower end units that keeps the lights on, not the hundreds of top-of-the-line units. If the logic were true, then Canon would only make 1Dx's and $10,000 primes.... get rid of the p/s cameras because they cut into 1DX sales....

Canon will sell hundreds of times more 100-400 zooms than the 200-400 lens. In the mass market, very few will pay $1500 for a lens and a miniscule percentage will pay $10,000. The 100-400 sells so well because it is affordable, works better than the kit lenses, and gives a longer reach. Plus, people love zooms.... zooms outsell primes....

Rework the 100-400 and the 400F5.6 to the latest technologies, give them both IS and the same level of build. The 400F5.6 will be sharper, will cost less, and be outsold ten to one by the 100-400 zoom because PEOPLE LIKE ZOOMS!

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Lenses / Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« on: June 06, 2013, 05:31:36 PM »
As usual, performance increase is not proportional to price increase.  Its really difficult to get a significant performance increase.

At the upper end of lens design you can probably expect more than doubling the price for a less than 10 percent increase...

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Lenses / Re: LensRentals.com Tests the EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x
« on: June 06, 2013, 05:28:48 PM »
Nice to see the data. I've been saying for years that the 400F5.6 is way sharper than the 100-400F5.6... Roger's test data certainly confirms that. I'm surprised at how close it is to the 400F2.8, I always knew it was a good lens.

That said, I still think a 400II lens with fluorite element and IS would be a fantastic update to the Canon lineup, even if it was in the $2500 range....

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Need help with basic settings for 60D
« on: June 05, 2013, 11:30:12 PM »
Reset the 60D to factory settings.

Take a shot with the 1100D, then set the 60D to the same ISO, aperture, and shutter speed as the 1100D and see what happens....

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Lenses / Re: Why Does the 100-400L Sell So Well Still ?
« on: June 05, 2013, 09:50:27 PM »
The predecessor to my 100-400 was a Sigma 150-500 which is, basically, a piece of junk

I did a side-by-side test of the Sigma 120-400 and the 150-500. The 120-400 was visibly sharper than the 150-500.... no pixel peeping needed to see the difference... The 120-400 at 400mm outresolved the 150-500 at 500mm....  I quickly decided to not buy the lens....

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