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Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 11, 2012, 10:45:19 AM »
I’ll have a look for you too but I don’t think I can do much more then what’s already been done. I feel for you but I feel for the couple more. I don't know your background but it might help if you follow a wedding photographer for a couple of weddings and even do some study or just stick to your day job. Did you charge the couple for this and do they know you are amateur photographer?  I know some people say the best way to learn is to shoot lots, but you run the risk of running you name into the ground if you keep up with pictures like this. It’s not just the shadows that’s bad there are people’s heads that you can’t even see. I encourage people around me normally and I hate to be a stick in the mud.

Ha ouch! Good thing I have a day job, eh? My background is I've been in the automotive industry for 9 years and playing around with photography for about that long. I am no professional, and this was my second wedding. My first was for a friend who wasn't even going to have a photographer because of money issues, I never asked to be paid since I've never done anything like that. This wedding again everyone knew I'm no professional and as far as I understood they didn't want to pay premium for professional either and they said they enjoyed my photos and style from the previous wedding I did. I didnt ask to be paid for this either because I wasn't sure if should charge anything. i suppose its a good thing I didnt cash the check they gave me. Everything was running behind and it was a out 15-20 minutes prior to the ceremony when the group photos began. Yea I screwed up in the hustle, I guess I could stick to my day job but seriously car business isn't as fun or rewarding as you might think, so I will learn and do better next time. Thanks to everyone taking a look at the photo and giving me advice how to fix it. I greatly appreciate the members on this forum.

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Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 11:10:28 PM »
Ok here is the unedited raw file, hopefully the file host isnt a problem I did this very quick. Just finished a brake job on my girlfriends car. what a day!

Wedding.CR2

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Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 03:33:42 PM »
Post the full-size, original file. That will give people a chance to post high quality edits.

I will do that as soon as I get home!

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Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 03:01:28 PM »
Depending on how you want to compromise... you could recover some detail from the shadows of the guy behind the groom... IMHO he is the deal breaker the way he is...


I did a quick and dirty Shadow pull in CS5 on a crop of your shot..  some exposure tune / NR / color/ hue adjustments to get it close..

Didnt bother with his neck since this was a proof of concept... with a RAW file and more time you could do much better.

This seems like good news to me!

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Lenses / Re: Need quick advice Please and thanks! Choir photoshoot!
« on: October 10, 2012, 01:05:56 PM »
All good advice coming my way I really appreciate this! I talked to a friend and shes going to let me borrow her 580ex ii and her 17-40L! So that should help a bunch too! I will write down all your ideas and bring them with!  I will probably shoot tethered as well that could help a bunch it seems and maybe I will bring my sister if she is free, shes been in choirs for school from grade school thru college.

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Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 11:06:58 AM »
Oh I shoot raw always but I don't think I can post a 20mb file can I?

Either post the full-size jpeg to minus.com or the like and link it inline, or upload the raw to some file sharing service - yes, you can use the latter for things except copyright infringement :-p

I will have to do that when I get home from work  :(

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Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 10:50:42 AM »
Looks bad - especially guy in the background.

 I take it even in the haste, you took a couple of shots of this gathering? Are the shadows on the same faces on all the shots? Otherwise in PS one can transplant well exposed faces on top of the under exposed ones  ;)

Good luck

The shadows are the same in the other shots I did get a shot where the flashes did it fire at all maybe I can use that somehow.

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Portrait / Re: Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 10:49:07 AM »
Oh I shoot raw always but I don't think I can post a 20mb file can I? I'm not very good with photoshop if you know of any guides or videos tht can illustrate how to do this that would help otherwise I will just try the ideas you guys listed.

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Lenses / Re: Need quick advice Please and thanks! Choir photoshoot!
« on: October 10, 2012, 01:25:21 AM »
I'm with Picturesbyme; have fun with it.

What is their mascot?  Perhaps arrange the choir in that shape, with different folks wearing different colors (school colors, of course) to create a colorful image.

Good point TAF I'm not sure of the mascot or what the students will be wearing. I'm not sure if they have choir outfits or just street clothes. I never thought about that I will have to contact the director and ask. Thanks for that bit of advice!

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Lenses / Re: Need quick advice Please and thanks! Choir photoshoot!
« on: October 10, 2012, 01:22:11 AM »
I wonder if Hobbs is right, maybe I should avoid what renting what I haven't used and stick with what I have. Maybe neuros dimensions about the wideness of the 16mm and 24mm are right. I would imagine 50 people would fit in with a 24mm. I probably shouldn't be worrying about it right now but the shoot is coming up soon and renting a lens timeframe is dwindling. And thank you picturesbyme for the encouragement!

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Portrait / Ruined photo, or rescue opportunity?
« on: October 10, 2012, 12:19:05 AM »
Hello I recently shot a wedding and during the group photos it became rather rushed as I was given a very short amount of time to set up for my shots. During the chaos and confusion I think one of my flashes malfunctioned or simply turned off, here is the resulting photo. My question, is this photo ruined or is there a way to rescue it? The shadows on a few faces is what is in question if you didn't notice right away :( Hopefully this isn't a huge fail on my part! Thank you everyone!

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Lenses / Re: Need quick advice Please and thanks! Choir photoshoot!
« on: October 10, 2012, 12:11:13 AM »
Its a high school choir and the photos are being submitted to the MMEA organization. I like the idea of the football field or something to that effect. I know there is a music room, a theater with balcony, and a cafeteria that has a upper level over looking.

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Lenses / Re: Need quick advice Please and thanks! Choir photoshoot!
« on: October 09, 2012, 11:39:19 PM »
Ha well maybe I shouldn't have started a thread, I'm starting to lose some confidence in doing this. A photographer friend referred me the shoot because she was busy and the director is doing this rather last minute. The photos need to be submitted by the 15th. Can you light a group of 50 with 2 580 exii's? I know theres several places in the high school he thought to take photos and there was an outdoor area we brainstormed.

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Lenses / Re: Need quick advice Please and thanks! Choir photoshoot!
« on: October 09, 2012, 09:43:03 PM »
I have a 580ex ii and light stands and a pair wireless triggers

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Lenses / Re: Need quick advice Please and thanks! Choir photoshoot!
« on: October 09, 2012, 09:07:02 PM »
So it sounds like we're leaning towards the 16-35? I just dont think 24mm is going to be wide enough for creativity.

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