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Stone - all your wishlist 7d features are nice except I'd be really happy with just better ISO performance and Digic V.  BTW, the 7d already has a 100% VF.

good catch.

You'd think I should know that since I've owned a 7D since last year, now that I think about it, it's only 100% coverage when attached to a 50mm lens and varies between 98%-99% at other focal lengths but I could be wrong....

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The 7D NEEDS an update, I think it would be quite silly of Canon to either not replace it or take it slightly down market.  There needs to be an APS-C flagship if Canon is serious about staying with the format.

To be a proper APS-C flagship, the 7DII needs:

  • 100% viewfinder
  • Dual Digic V
  • The same 18MP sensor with improved DR
  • Clean ISO 12,800
  • 10 fps with a decently sized buffer
  • 61 pt AF from the 5DIII
  • The usual video improvements
  • I'd even consider a builtin portrait grip like the 1 series bodies
It would be a dream camera for those who can't afford the 1 series or need the extra reach of APS-C.  Charge $2-$2.5K and you have a winner. :)

Those are pretty attractive specs, but your$2-$2.5k idea is nothing more than a pipe dream. Do you really think they'd sell a body for $2k with those specs, especially after how they priced the 5D mark III?

*edit* You forgot f/8 to further canibalize 1D X sales  :P

An APS-C 7D isn't any kind of threat to the 1DX which has the absolute best of everything.  People that need a 1 series camera, need a 1 series camera and an attractively spec'ed crop body isn't going to change that.  On the other hand, the 1DX will never be on the radar for alot of shooters, Canon shouldn't say:  "buy the most expensive thing we've got or do without."  because Nikon will be more than happy to fill that void.  Right or wrong, I just don't subscribe to the cannibalization of sales theory.

Even with the specs l listed for the 7DII, the 1DX would still be:
  • FF
  • better weather sealed
  • shoot faster
  • have the best af
  • have a much longer shutter life
  • better high ISO
  • and just flat out better IQ.

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The 7D NEEDS an update, I think it would be quite silly of Canon to either not replace it or take it slightly down market.  There needs to be an APS-C flagship if Canon is serious about staying with the format.

To be a proper APS-C flagship, the 7DII needs:

  • 100% viewfinder
  • Dual Digic V
  • The same 18MP sensor with improved DR
  • Clean ISO 12,800
  • 10 fps with a decently sized buffer
  • 61 pt AF from the 5DIII
  • The usual video improvements
  • I'd even consider a builtin portrait grip like the 1 series bodies
It would be a dream camera for those who can't afford the 1 series or need the extra reach of APS-C.  Charge $2-$2.5K and you have a winner. :)



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Lens Gallery / Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM
« on: May 09, 2012, 01:59:58 PM »
A few from me :)

1DIV, f8, 130mm, ISO 400, 1/160




70mm, f2.8, ISO 200, 1/25s handheld :)




135mm, f2.8, 1/125s, ISO 200



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this is doubtful. canon has their hands full with refreshing their aps-c line, keeping up with the C line, and figuring out mirrorless. they are doing too many things at once.

2013 may see a 1Dsmk4 the earliest. Full frames are done for 2012 as far as canon goes.

Don't underestimate the power of market forces.  I'm sure Canon has had a high MP sensor in development for quite some time now, don't be fooled into thinking they were caught off guard by the D800, I'm sure they knew what Nikon was going to release, but I also think they were caught off guard by it's price point.

As stated, the million dollar question is if Canon has found a way to compete with the admittedly excellent low ISO DR of the exmor sensors.  I don't subscribe to the D800 hype as I need a more well rounded camera, but once Canon releases their high MP body, landscape photogs WILL want the ability to push shadows like the Nikon competition.  Sony has set the standard for low ISO DR performance and Canon would be foolish to release a camera that's not competitive in that regard.  The camera would also need to be better than the Nikon at ISO 6400+, I would expect a decent 12,800 but not much better due to the huge pixel density.

I've never really considered the 5DIII & D800 to be direct competitors, they're very different cameras. 

I believe development of this high MP camera is already well underway, and a 2012 announcement with an early 2013 ship date is very probable, but I'll say get ready for sticker shock.  You just aren't going to get a uber MP body from Canon for $3K, I fully expect it to be in the $4.5 - $5.5K price range.  For that price, I would reasonably expect the 5DIIIs 61pt af, dual CF slots, dual digic V.   I would also expect it to be able to shoot the same 6 fps as the 5DIII, if a single Digic V can push 22MP files at 6fps, there's no reason that dual digic Vs couldn't do the same with 40MP files, although Canon just can't skimp on the buffer like they did with the 5DIII.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x Finally Ready? [CR2]
« on: March 28, 2012, 10:40:10 PM »
I HAVE to buy the 24-70, no way around that, but if the 200-400 is $11K, I'll just have to pass on it.  I'd much rather spend my money on the 400 2.8 + 1.4 tc and be a stop faster @560mm f4.

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EOS Bodies / Re: What's Next? A General Breakdown
« on: March 08, 2012, 10:44:53 PM »
meh, the only think that excites me on that list is the 35L, which could stand to be a little sharper wide open and some weather sealing.  I've been holding off on getting this lens in hopes of an upgrade this year.

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Canon General / Re: More Lens Suggestions [CR1]
« on: February 15, 2012, 12:46:31 AM »
I'm hoping for the 35L II to be released in the near future to replace my Sigma 30.  The current 35L doesn't really outpeform my siggy in any way so I'm having a hard time justifying $1200 for the "upgrade" but the siggy has to go since I'm going FF this year.  I agree the 50mm might be the most needed upgrade and the 85 1.8 could also use a refresh to tame the excessive purple fringing wide open.  I can't see the 135L getting any better optically, but IS might be nice update, alot of people are dumping it for the 70-200 2.8 IS which seems to make up for the 1-stop advantage.

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I'm also a hobbyist, I've made money from my photography but it's been completely by accident.  Selling the occasional photo to a parent at a school function and a couple of my better landscape shots.  Having said that I believe in working hard then playing hard, if photography is your hobby no one has to justify your purchase but you, you and can't take it with you, they'll just rob your grave. :D

The 24-70 is a little bit of a disappointment because I was hoping for internal zoom and IS, but I will definitely be buying it once I buy my first FF body this year.  Lenses aren't like smartphones or laptops, they last many, many years.  Spread the cost of this lens over a 5 year period and the price gets alot easier to swallow....

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS in 2012 [CR2]
« on: February 11, 2012, 11:27:19 AM »
I agree, 80-100% price increases for the most popular lens updates is getting a little tired.  While this lens could use some improvements, I'd rather see a traditional 400 f4 IS prime to replace the DO, price it in the 3-4k range and Canon would sell a boatload.  I'm actually hoping Sigma decides to release a 400 2.8 with their new optical formula....

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D X or Mark III Specs & Release Date? [CR1]
« on: February 02, 2012, 09:53:35 PM »
I think I'm just gonna stop wishing for a baby 1DX and get the real thing.  A 1DX will last me far longer than a 5D or 7D upgrade and I can keep carrying 1 body instead of 2 to get everything I want.  I guess this is Canon's master plan in the end anyways.  The more I think about it the more I'm sure Canon is going to limit both the new 5D and 7D models in some relevant way....

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EOS Bodies / Re: *UPDATE* 5D Mark III - February 7, 2012 [CR2]
« on: January 28, 2012, 02:49:43 PM »
I find these specs entirely plausible, the 1DX just isn't an affordable proposition for most people unless you're a demanding pro with tons of business or an avid enthusiast with lots of disposable cash.  It simply isn't on the radar for 98% of FF DSLR users.

The 5DIII NEEDS a spec sheet like this because, the advantages it once had i.e. 20+MP and great video are going to be standard for all the new bodies that occupy it's price range.  The current 5DII falls pretty short against the D700 once you remove these 2 advantage.  If Canon continues to cripple the 5 series, they will most certainly lose alot of new customers to Nikon.  Why would someone who already needs to buy new glass in order to move up to FF pick the 5DIII over the D800 if the Nikon has superior af, fps and build quality for roughly the same price?

I think Canon realizes that the advantages it once had are now gone and it needs to step up it's game or risk losing the slew of crop body users who eventually plan to go FF.....

I for one hope the specs are true so instead of a 1DX, I could get a 5DIII + 24-70L + 35L for roughly the same price as a 1DX which would complete my FF kit.....

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« on: January 21, 2012, 10:14:45 AM »
Less heavy & shorter is very nice.
And what about the IQ and other possible improvements?

Shorter and lighter would be very nice, after a day walking about with the current 24-70mm on a gripped 5DmkII hanging off my neck I feel some aches and pains...maybe I just need to work out more ::)

if by "hanging off my neck" you mean you're using a conventional neck strap for that kit, your neck and back would thank you greatly if you moved to a sling strap like Black Rapid or one of it's competitors.  I can carry my gripped 7D/70-200 2.8 with an R-Strap for hours with no discomfort.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« on: January 20, 2012, 02:46:56 PM »
the good thing is no IS & keeping external zoom shouldn't mean a dramatic price increase.

Pure, unfettered optimism.   :P  The 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II was the same basic physical design as its predecessor (internal zoom, with IS), and still Canon managed to set an MSRP that was a 32% premium over the original (translating to >$1800 for the 24-70mm II).

Definitely wishful thinking on my part, Canon could at least give us internal zoom to soften the blow. :D
Weight is simply not an issue for alot of us.....

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II [CR2]
« on: January 20, 2012, 02:30:48 PM »
If this is the final version, the good thing is no IS & keeping external zoom shouldn't mean a dramatic price increase.  On the other hand, I'll be quite disappointed with no internal zoom and to a lesser extent no IS.  This is supposed to be the top of the line lens in this range and leaving out these two things I think is a mistake.  Weather sealing while good would be better with internal zoom and slow SS can only be helped by IS especially at the longer end of the zoom range.  I'll probably still buy it once I pick up a FF body this year, as I'm sure Canon will improve on it's already great optics, but after the kit lens and my 15-85, I hate external zooms...

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