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EOS Bodies / Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« on: June 13, 2012, 01:24:02 AM »
I think this rumor is CR2 because it's pretty easy to assume 4 DSLRs from Canon this year.

  • "affordable" FF is the next big untapped market, so a FF below the 5DIII is a given, I expect the same sensor as the 5DIII wrapped in a cheaper package probably in a rebel-like form factor.  The Nikon D600 is pretty much a sure thing and Canon won't be late to this party.  I expect the Canon and Nikon entry level FF bodies will be announced within a few days of each other at the most.  I'm guessing $2200 - $2500
  • I think everyone knows Canon will put out a high MP monster due to the popularity of the D800, but I think they'll try to rely on their brand recognition and charge well over 4K for it.  I don't expect a 1DX form factor, landscapers and studio photogs just don't need the build or the vertical grip.  I'm guessing $4500 - $5500
  • the 70D is coming because the T4i now has virtually the same specs as the 60D, no reason whatsoever to buy a 60D anymore and Canon knows it.  It will probably get the 7D 19pt AF, 8 FPS and the new 18MP sensor from the T4i.  I'm guessing $1200 - $1500
  • if the above is true, the 7DII would have to move firmly into the professional crop body realm.  I'm guessing integrated vertical grip, 61PT AF and 10FPS.  The 7DII is also our best chance for an all new generation of APS-C sensor from Canon.  On the other hand, the possibility of moving it to APS-H cannot be ruled out.  Canon could essentially refresh the 1DIV and sell it as the 7DII with the new 61PT AF & 10 fps which still leaves alot of room below the 1DX.  I've always said the APS-H sensor is just too good to shelve, it doesn't give up much to the 5DIII FF sensor from an IQ perspective.  I'm guessing $2000 - $2500 if it remains APS-C or $3000 - $3500 if Canon swings for the fences and makes it APS-H.
;D

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I wonder if this means a delay in the release of the 7DII.  We knew there would be a firmware update to support the GP-E2 and I welcome the increased raw buffer and the auto ISO limit but I hope it doesn't mean it takes years before we see the 7DII

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7D Mark II Info? [CR2]
« on: May 14, 2012, 08:05:29 PM »
If this is credible, then Canon is on the right track.  The 7D SHOULD be an APS-C 1DX, there are probably thousands of customers that don't want or need FF but DO want or need high performance.  I would definitely upgrade my7D if the performance and sensor improvements are there.  I think a 5DIII/7DII Combo would be A damn near perfect combo.  Where do I sign? :D

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: 5D Mark III Body Only in Stock at B&H
« on: May 14, 2012, 07:10:02 PM »
Everyone seemed to have them for a few days, but they have been snapped up.
 
For USA buyers, the Canon Online store has them.
 
http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10051_10051_305370_-1?WT.mc_id=C126149



Nope, I just tried to order.  Out of stock...

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Canon. We're not the best, but we're good enough for you.

Available everywhere better cameras are sold.

Retarded.  This is what's wrong with so many people on these forums.  It's amazing how much we expect out of our cameras and how little we expect from ourselves.

Why can't we expect Canon to produce the best cameras?  Conversely, why are you accepting mediocrity from any company that charges you for a product or service?  My question to you is completely detached from what I think about the quality of Canon products or the ability of the people on these forums to take quality images.  For the record though, I'm a great proponent of Canon products but that doesn't mean that I'll let them off the hook for producing a second-rate product.

Which product do you consider second rate?  Honestly, anyone who can't produce first rate content with any DSLR produced in the last 5 or more years has only 1 person to blame and it ain't Canon.  I guarantee you that virtually any current Canon camera is better than you are at taking pictures, as it the case for most of us....

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Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF 35mm f/1.4L USM
« on: May 11, 2012, 08:26:21 PM »
5 shot HDR @ 1.4


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Regarding the current 7D sensor, after living with the camera for the last 8-9 months, there's definitely room for sensor improvements and this is a case where I don't think upping the MP count would be a good thing, regardless of what the competition does.  Anyone that uses this camera knows that while the overall IQ is excellent, it can get a little noisy even at lower ISO if you don't nail your exposure or don't shoot to the right.  The camera can be downright evil if you underexpose your shots.

The 7DII is a scenario where a 5DIIIesque sensor upgrade would be in order.  Give us a stop or 2 more high ISO, and tame the low ISO noise and this camera can easily go on at 18MP for 3 more years.

I've given up hope for an APS-H 7DII although I think it would be the greatest thing since sliced bread and would give Canon an advantage that NO ONE could match, unfortunately, I don't think they could sell it for less than 3K.  I've been shooting with a 1DIV for the last week and it's just too good of a sensor for Canon to sunset.


Ken

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Stone - all your wishlist 7d features are nice except I'd be really happy with just better ISO performance and Digic V.  BTW, the 7d already has a 100% VF.

good catch.

You'd think I should know that since I've owned a 7D since last year, now that I think about it, it's only 100% coverage when attached to a 50mm lens and varies between 98%-99% at other focal lengths but I could be wrong....

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The 7D NEEDS an update, I think it would be quite silly of Canon to either not replace it or take it slightly down market.  There needs to be an APS-C flagship if Canon is serious about staying with the format.

To be a proper APS-C flagship, the 7DII needs:

  • 100% viewfinder
  • Dual Digic V
  • The same 18MP sensor with improved DR
  • Clean ISO 12,800
  • 10 fps with a decently sized buffer
  • 61 pt AF from the 5DIII
  • The usual video improvements
  • I'd even consider a builtin portrait grip like the 1 series bodies
It would be a dream camera for those who can't afford the 1 series or need the extra reach of APS-C.  Charge $2-$2.5K and you have a winner. :)

Those are pretty attractive specs, but your$2-$2.5k idea is nothing more than a pipe dream. Do you really think they'd sell a body for $2k with those specs, especially after how they priced the 5D mark III?

*edit* You forgot f/8 to further canibalize 1D X sales  :P

An APS-C 7D isn't any kind of threat to the 1DX which has the absolute best of everything.  People that need a 1 series camera, need a 1 series camera and an attractively spec'ed crop body isn't going to change that.  On the other hand, the 1DX will never be on the radar for alot of shooters, Canon shouldn't say:  "buy the most expensive thing we've got or do without."  because Nikon will be more than happy to fill that void.  Right or wrong, I just don't subscribe to the cannibalization of sales theory.

Even with the specs l listed for the 7DII, the 1DX would still be:
  • FF
  • better weather sealed
  • shoot faster
  • have the best af
  • have a much longer shutter life
  • better high ISO
  • and just flat out better IQ.

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The 7D NEEDS an update, I think it would be quite silly of Canon to either not replace it or take it slightly down market.  There needs to be an APS-C flagship if Canon is serious about staying with the format.

To be a proper APS-C flagship, the 7DII needs:

  • 100% viewfinder
  • Dual Digic V
  • The same 18MP sensor with improved DR
  • Clean ISO 12,800
  • 10 fps with a decently sized buffer
  • 61 pt AF from the 5DIII
  • The usual video improvements
  • I'd even consider a builtin portrait grip like the 1 series bodies
It would be a dream camera for those who can't afford the 1 series or need the extra reach of APS-C.  Charge $2-$2.5K and you have a winner. :)



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Canon EF Zoom Lenses / Re: Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM
« on: May 09, 2012, 01:59:58 PM »
A few from me :)

1DIV, f8, 130mm, ISO 400, 1/160




70mm, f2.8, ISO 200, 1/25s handheld :)




135mm, f2.8, 1/125s, ISO 200



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this is doubtful. canon has their hands full with refreshing their aps-c line, keeping up with the C line, and figuring out mirrorless. they are doing too many things at once.

2013 may see a 1Dsmk4 the earliest. Full frames are done for 2012 as far as canon goes.

Don't underestimate the power of market forces.  I'm sure Canon has had a high MP sensor in development for quite some time now, don't be fooled into thinking they were caught off guard by the D800, I'm sure they knew what Nikon was going to release, but I also think they were caught off guard by it's price point.

As stated, the million dollar question is if Canon has found a way to compete with the admittedly excellent low ISO DR of the exmor sensors.  I don't subscribe to the D800 hype as I need a more well rounded camera, but once Canon releases their high MP body, landscape photogs WILL want the ability to push shadows like the Nikon competition.  Sony has set the standard for low ISO DR performance and Canon would be foolish to release a camera that's not competitive in that regard.  The camera would also need to be better than the Nikon at ISO 6400+, I would expect a decent 12,800 but not much better due to the huge pixel density.

I've never really considered the 5DIII & D800 to be direct competitors, they're very different cameras. 

I believe development of this high MP camera is already well underway, and a 2012 announcement with an early 2013 ship date is very probable, but I'll say get ready for sticker shock.  You just aren't going to get a uber MP body from Canon for $3K, I fully expect it to be in the $4.5 - $5.5K price range.  For that price, I would reasonably expect the 5DIIIs 61pt af, dual CF slots, dual digic V.   I would also expect it to be able to shoot the same 6 fps as the 5DIII, if a single Digic V can push 22MP files at 6fps, there's no reason that dual digic Vs couldn't do the same with 40MP files, although Canon just can't skimp on the buffer like they did with the 5DIII.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 200-400 f/4L IS 1.4x Finally Ready? [CR2]
« on: March 28, 2012, 10:40:10 PM »
I HAVE to buy the 24-70, no way around that, but if the 200-400 is $11K, I'll just have to pass on it.  I'd much rather spend my money on the 400 2.8 + 1.4 tc and be a stop faster @560mm f4.

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EOS Bodies / Re: What's Next? A General Breakdown
« on: March 08, 2012, 10:44:53 PM »
meh, the only think that excites me on that list is the 35L, which could stand to be a little sharper wide open and some weather sealing.  I've been holding off on getting this lens in hopes of an upgrade this year.

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Canon General / Re: More Lens Suggestions [CR1]
« on: February 15, 2012, 12:46:31 AM »
I'm hoping for the 35L II to be released in the near future to replace my Sigma 30.  The current 35L doesn't really outpeform my siggy in any way so I'm having a hard time justifying $1200 for the "upgrade" but the siggy has to go since I'm going FF this year.  I agree the 50mm might be the most needed upgrade and the 85 1.8 could also use a refresh to tame the excessive purple fringing wide open.  I can't see the 135L getting any better optically, but IS might be nice update, alot of people are dumping it for the 70-200 2.8 IS which seems to make up for the 1-stop advantage.

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