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I'd be interested in a Sigma 300 2.8 or 500 f4, if they can maintain their high level of IQ.  I just can't bring myself to pay Canon's prices for a range I will use, but not everyday....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS Rebel T4i [CR2]
« on: December 05, 2011, 04:45:40 PM »
I think this rumor is very plausible, to the average consumer coming from a P&S, the more MP the better.  Canon almost has to up the MP count just to match specs.  The advertised improvements in jpg noise reduction in the digic V would probably make entry level consumers very happy with the MP increase.

I think the 70D would get the same 24MP sensor, single digic V and the 7D's 19pt af to make the upgrade to an XXD series worth it in the eyes of people looking for a clear upgrade path.  I also think we'll see a more affordable XXD FF camera from Canon in the next year or so

Canon could take the 1Dx approach with the 7D II and make it a real upgrade over the XXD bodies.  They should keep the 18MP sensor and improve the DR & ISO performance to set a new IQ standard for crop bodies.  I certainly would not complain about a 7D II with 18MP, greatly improved DR, 1-2 stops for a clean ISO 6400 & usable ISO 12K, 10 fps and a 30+ pt af system.

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Lenses / Re: New Lenses Imminent? [CR1]
« on: November 02, 2011, 10:35:56 PM »
When my 70-200 2.8 isn't fast enough, the 85 1.8 is my go to lens in darkly lit gymnasiums.  It's the only reason I haven't sold it, but it does suffer from some pretty brutal CA wide open.  A canon 85 1.4 would be a dream come true, and make for a very versatile complement to my zoom I know sigma has an 85 1.4 and I've had good luck with their glass, but I admit that I prefer Canon glass.

I rarely shoot at 50mm since I find the 30mm range more versatile but I'd like to see a Canon 35 mm just a little faster than 2.0

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1Ds Mark IV Information [CR2]
« on: September 14, 2011, 01:46:20 PM »
yeah, I don't expect this to be an affordable body.  If they merge, it's got to have improved IQ as compared to the 1DsIII and improved performance as compared to the 1DIV.  If true, I'll bet Canon continues selling the 1DIV for a while after this body is released.  I can't see it being any cheaper than 6-7K.  6months is a long wait, glad I just ordered a 7D so I can wait for those prices to come down a bit.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III & The Rest [CR2]
« on: August 24, 2011, 02:28:30 PM »
I really want a FF 1DV, but if the 5DIII has 7D af or better, shoots 6fps or better and has weather sealing at least as good as the 7D, I'll hold my nose and buy it..lol!  I need or should I say, I want a new FF body now!!!  Especially since my 70-200 2.8 IS II is on the way.  ;D

I can always sell it later with not much of a loss if the 1DV is all that....

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1D Mark V [CR1]
« on: July 14, 2011, 01:23:16 PM »


My thought is that we will get a crippled 5D3 again with again a bad autofocus system.
Canon wants current 5D2 owners not to upgrade to the 5D3, but rather have them upgrade to the 1D and therewith earn more money, due to larger profits on the 1D camera.



This was my thought as well but my reasoning is that they'll sell a crippled 5DIII to a new owner, who will eventually wind up buying a 7D for the autofocus. (I would think larger profits for small cameras with less R&D this time around with bigger sales). (But you're right, current 5D owners will probably not tolerate another crappy AF system).

Side note: Canon wants Non- 1D owners carrying 2 bodies.

Also, if Canon releases another crippled 5D, new and existing customers have a high performance option from Nikon in the same price range.  The only people stuck would be those heavily invested in Canon EF glass.  Those moving up from crop bodies will more than likely be upgrading their lenses and brand new customers have to start from scratch with glass anyway.  The D700 shook things up by giving their customers just about everything (except video) right out of the gate.  I don't think crippling the next 5D is an option, it might not have 7D quality af but it should be light years ahead of what they have now.

I agree with you about Canon wanting people to carry 2 bodies, as an amateur, something I refuse to do.  That's why I'm thankful for the competition from Nikon.  If the 1DV is too costly or the 5DIII doesn't meet my expectations, I have another option in the D4 or D800

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1D Mark V [CR1]
« on: July 14, 2011, 01:07:34 AM »
The 1D IV has only been around for about a year and a half. Why would Canon be replacing that fantastic camera already? There are people out there who like its crop believe it or not. It's ideal for many big telephoto users. If Canon is coming out with a Mark V that has full frame for a lot more money, I will happily pass on it. The current Mark IV is just about perfect to me. There is apparently a lot of whining on the internet for a fast full frame camera. I do hope Canon comes out with one so they can be happy.

Canon will produce a fast, FF body because Canon's number 1 competitor already offers multiple, fast, full frame bodies.  If a crop mode is offered, the big telephoto users will still have their crop factor while allowing the ability to go ultra wide when necessary, something alot of APS-H users complain about.  If we finally get this kind of body, other than the price which is also a matter of speculation, everyone wins.

I shoot everything from landscapes to sporting events, this would be the ultimate camera for myself and thousands of others, I'm glad you're happy with the 1DIV, it means 1 less person competing for what will surely be limited stock if this turns out to be real.

cheers...   

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1D Mark V [CR1]
« on: July 13, 2011, 02:46:50 PM »
As I said above, Why you are thinking that the 1DV is going to replace the 1Ds and 1D series, leaving nothing in the 1D price range ? Is it obvious that the high res and speed merging would happen in the 1Ds price range and the 1D series will just continue as usual probably FF leaving the same price ranges as before ? The naming of the camera is not important, but price ranges are, and they can't leave the price range of the D3s/D4 out.

I agree with this, if the 1D lines merge creating a single flagship body, it would need to compete with the D3x at the 7$K+ price point.  That would leave a huge price gap between the 5D and 1D bodies.  It would more than likely alienate sports shooters and serious amateurs accustomed to buying in the $4.5 - $5K price range.  I can't see Canon giving up those sales to the Nikon D4 or feeling generous and giving us their flagship at a more reasonable price that would appeal to a broader demographic.  If the lines really do merge, Canon either has to continue selling the 1DIV, keep this unified 1D body in the $4 - $6K price range or add a 3rd FF body to their lineup.

I think we'll continue to have the 1D at 24-32 MP FF with crop mode shooting at 10+ fps in the $5K range and the 1Ds probably at 40MP or more no crop mode shooting at 3-4 fps in the $7K+ range.  My only questions is what could Canon add other than the increase in MP to justify the premium over a 1DV.  They would be able to compete with Nikon quite well with this kind of lineup even though Nikon has a few more bodies to fill in the gaps.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 1D Mark V [CR1]
« on: July 12, 2011, 11:11:40 PM »
I'll probably never make a dime from my photography, but I'm seriously considering buying this body if this rumor is true.  It makes sense to me to release this body first so Canon can work out any af issues well before the Olympics next year. 

I'm most interested in the DR improvements that Canon's made since their last ff sensor, I'm expecting major improvements in that regard.  If it comes in at $6k or less and I can get a relatively clean ISO 12,800, I'll stand in line at B&H to buy this.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Land of Crazy or.... ? [CR1]
« on: June 26, 2011, 02:17:53 PM »
Very strange. The actual 7D is placed right in the middle between the 60D (with its lacks of pro options) and the 5D Mark II (with its complete pro bundle). Now the 7D Mark II would enter the Full Frame category and even partially replacing the 1D Mark IV? Now I don't see the point of getting a 5D Mark III if the 7DII will be doing what a 5DII can.

I don't think the 7D would get a FF sensor, that would definitely screw things up in the lineup making it a far better buy than the 5DIII due to it's high performance characteristics.  I will however argue that the current 5DII does not represent a pro bundle, yes, many, many pros use it daily and it arguably has the best video in the lineup, the build quality, weather sealing and ancient AF based on the 20D disqualify it as a pro build.  Have a look at the D700 which is the closest competitor and it's very solidly built with a far more modern auto focus system.  I know many pro photogs who will use nothing but the center af point on a 5DII.  It's definitely in need of a substantial overhaul....

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EOS Bodies / Re: End of the APS-H sized CMOS?
« on: June 26, 2011, 09:58:44 AM »
I don't believe APS-H is going anywhere.  The only way Canon could shelve the tech is if APS-C IQ and dynamic range can somehow exceed that of APS-H.

As others have said, Canon's lenses aren't range-specific to APS-H so there are no system-related exit barriers for APS-H. Surely it's only a matter of time (possibly very soon) before we see a very high resolution full-frame camera capable of 10FPS. Then what would be the point of APS-H?

I agree, that lenses are definitely not an exit barrier, I consider high iso performance, dynamic range and to a lesser extend dof control to be the barriers, APS-C just isn't that close to APS-H right now.

I'm sure Canon is now capable of pushing FF images at 10 fps, actually that's the body I'm waiting to buy and I won't be purchasing another camera from Canon until I can get it.  The only benefits of APS-H at that time would be the potentially lower price point and yes the 1.3 crop which is still desirable for some sports and wildlife photogs.  Looking at Nikon's lineup, it certainly seem possible to release a ~5K high performance FF.  I think Canon's answer would need to be in the $5K range and have a built in crop mode or APS-H still remains a viable option, that's why I'm still skeptical that the 1DIV gets replaced anytime soon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: End of the APS-H sized CMOS?
« on: June 26, 2011, 02:57:34 AM »
I don't believe APS-H is going anywhere.  The only way Canon could shelve the tech is if APS-C IQ and dynamic range can somehow exceed that of APS-H.  I don't see it now, but perhaps Canon has that trick up it's sleeve.  There's still the matter of the DOF advantage that APS-H and FF have over the APS-C sensors.  I still say if the next 1D is FF and I'm not sure it will be, the next 7D will be APS-H and the 70D will become the fast crop body.  That's my story and i'm sticking to it  ;D

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Land of Crazy or.... ? [CR1]
« on: June 25, 2011, 09:51:06 PM »
We can just agree to disagree....

I don't know that we're actually disagreeing.   :)   My point is that a manufacturer is going to release a technology/product at the time when they predict it will yield the greatest profit.  Likewise, they're not going to 'waste' money on R&D with no expectation of an ROI - and as a general rule, an early ROI is better than a delayed ROI, unless it's predicted that there's substantially more profit to be gained from a delayed release. 

In the example of the 120 MP APS-H sensor, I actually doubt they produced incrementally increasing versions - that may not have been cost effective.  If it were my R&D money, I'd have had a team do some computer modeling to suggest the maximum feasible density, then attempted to produce three versions - that predicted max, and something lower and something higher.  Three shots on goal, simultaneous, rather than racheting it up with repeated costs for each increment.  But honestly, I can't speak to any sort inside knowledge of how they did it.

Certainly, in some industries technology is 'held back' - you mentioned defense, so compare consumer GPS systems with military GPS systems.  The latter is always ahead of the former (although the companies are still making a profit from their technology, albeit from a different sector.

Back to releasing a product when it will generate the maximum product, I do think that's the key driver - and I definitely acknowledge that that is not always as soon as the technology is available and producible.  In the specific case of boceprevir and telaprevir, and the general case of drug development, the maximum profit results from the earliest possible release.  If a cure for HIV were developed (and some are being actively worked on), it would be released as soon as possible (and I do speak from direct knowledge in this case - I happen to hold a senior position in a large pharma company).

Well put and I do see your point, we're not that far off.  If that large pharma is one of the ones located in Princeton, NJ then we may very well have done business either recently or in the past, I was last out there in Oct 2010.

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Land of Crazy or.... ? [CR1]
« on: June 25, 2011, 09:47:40 PM »
The great thing about conspiracy theories is that they can never be proven wrong, because any evidence to the contrary is just taken as further proof of how the conspirators are fooling everyone but the handful of people who "know" the truth.

It's the same whether it's 200 mpg carburetors, Elvis is still alive, black helicopters, fluoridated water or super secret superior camera technology that's being purposely withheld from consumers.

You REALLY think this is a conspiracy theory in the realm of things like we never went to the moon and the illuminati?  It's not that serious, try a conspiracy of marketing and it won't seem so devious..LOL!!! 

I guess once a "sane" person labels something as a conspiracy theory, they no longer have to think critically, nothing I've said is out of the question once you know what drives a corporation and to whom they owe their allegiance.  I'll give you a hint, it ain't you, and that's well known, no conspiracy necessary. ;)   

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Land of Crazy or.... ? [CR1]
« on: June 25, 2011, 06:29:07 PM »
The fact that an item is announced or a prototype can be produced does not necessarily mean that the same item can be put into mass production, perhaps for technical reasons, perhaps for economic reasons.  So, companies may 'sit on tech' not out of a desire to hold it back, but because it's not yet feasible to produce it.  You say Pentax announced a FF sensor that never went into production.  So?  Canon announced a 120 MP APS-H sensor in 2010.  By your logic, the 1D MkV should have that sensor, right?  Else, Canon is 'sitting on their tech' and 'incrementally releasing it'.  I'm pretty sure there are other factors that preclude mass production of a 120 MP APS-H camera, and will for some time to come.

A prototype is a proof of concept, a display of the feasibility of a piece of tech.  I'm referring completed tech that is either ready or can be immediately made ready for mass production.

As to your example, the current APS-H sensor is 16MP so you think they just decided to jump from 16 to 120? Or would it be more logical to assume that they incrementally increased the MP count until they reached the current stable maximum of 120MP?  You can continue to believe that you get the absolute best that your favorite manufacturer is able to produce every year, and you would be no different than the rest of the populace that's a good thing, it means your favorite company's marketing department is doing its job.  Unfortunately for me and a few of my peers, we learned differently many years ago, it really puts a damper on all these exciting press releases you see every day.  We can just agree to disagree....

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