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Lenses / Re: Another I need advise on a lens thread......
« on: August 12, 2012, 08:54:35 PM »
Thanks for the feedback...please keep it coming.

Next question, assuming I go with the 16-35L f/2.8 II, is there any advantage to buying it brand new for $1,529 with the current rebate offer, or do I save $200 by purchasing a refurbished lens directly from Canon for $1,359?

I'm leaning toward buying refurbished, since I can use the difference in price toward a B+W 82mm MRC Slim UV Filter ($130), and I would still come out ahead compared to buying new.
Gino, I just bought a new 16-35mm L for less than the refurb price.  Newegg had a 15% discount on top of the Canon rebate that ended in July.  Chances are someone will have a deal.

Thanks guys/(gals?) for all the input.  I took a look at PCR's site but couldn't find any zoom rings, and it sounds like michi hasn't had any luck with CPS.

The lens gets here on Tuesday, so I'll update with condition and any fixes I attempt.  I'll try some non-permanent things like bike grip tape, rubber bands, or some heat first and see how those work before I attempt any permanent modifications.
Contact them, they have many parts that are not listed on their web site.  You should be able to find something that works, even if you have to make one a bit narrower.  There are other suppliers that they might be able to suggest as well.
Post on Fred Miranda.  There are many drainpipe users that may have found a source, petkal for one.
Why not measure the width and diameter or circumference and users with a similar sized lens ring can let you know.


Why do you need a $900 tripod? Please explain in detail, if you can. I want to know the rational behind such purchases. . . . nevermind the carbonfiber thingy, just tell why you have an urge to spend such for a tripod, unless you have a steady business that makes you hundreds a week or thousands a month, to even consider such a purchase where add-ons will cost you hundreds more.

Some spend $500 on a tripod and head, and then end up buying a good one later, so it ends up costing even more.  Many are happy with a lowcost tripod.  It depends.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D mark iii vignetting in RAW
« on: August 12, 2012, 07:19:53 PM »
If you have in camera set to use the lens correction, it will remove viginetting from jpegs, but not raw.  With raw, you see the actual photo while jpeg is processed.

Pg 327 of the manual lists supported focus screens.  EC-S is mentioned in a footnote as requireing manual settings for exposure.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 5dc, better than T1i?
« on: August 12, 2012, 06:10:45 PM »
You really need f/2.8 minimum for that type of low light, and f/1.8 or faster is best.  I have gone to primes for low light use with my 5D MK II at ISO 3200 and 6400.  I've used 12800 on my 1D MK IV, and tried it with a D800 but thats pushing too hard. 
With a 5D C, I'd recommend a 85mm f/1.8 as a low cost choice.  Fast Zooms are $$$$, even used ones are expensive. 

The grip is basically a big rubber band, you may be able to find one from a Camera repair shop.  Canon no longer supports the lens, so unless it happens to use the same part as some newer lens, they will not have it.
Try http://www.procamerarepair.com/NIKON-AF-S-80-200-LENS-RUBBER-RING-GRIP_p_259.html
They stock old parts that they bought from Canon when support was dropped.  They might also have some outsourced parts.
In any event, its $9 for a replacement.

They are a small company, very small, so there are no discounts.  Try buying used on ebay. 
You might be able to buy equally good or even better Markins Ball Head.  http://www.markinseurope.com/en/warranty.php
It might cost less if you can get it from Hong Kong, I don't know.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 5dc, better than T1i?
« on: August 12, 2012, 05:28:45 PM »
Thanks for all the positive replies guys :D Glad, I'm not the only one who considered actually buying a 7 year old camera. I have another inquiry about the 5d.

I plan to buy the body only for now because it's pretty cheap. Ebay list $750 as the lowest price, haven't check craigslist or the FM forms though.

I know this is kind of really bad idea, but what's a good non-L EF lens that can work well with the Canon 5Dc. I'm asking about lenes like the Canon 28-135, Canon 28-105, or any other EF lenses. I'm not looking for EF Primes just yet, lots of vacations planned for the next 3 months so I'd rather purchase a Zoom lens for convenience. If didn't need to pay for college, I would have no problem with this but I'm stuck in school and I really have no choice :/
I would not pay more than $650 for a good used 5D classic.  Make sure its had the mirror fix.
A good used 28-135 for about $200 -$225 will be a good choice, however, as far as low light goes, you are going to be struggling with a slow lens.
Check your local Craigs list, and negotiate.  Many sellers have no clue, and ask far too much.

Lenses / Re: Another I need advise on a lens thread......
« on: August 12, 2012, 02:17:21 PM »
If you need a faster lens, you should determine the focal length that is missing.
One way I've determined this is to look at my images in Lightroom according to the quantities taken at various focal lengths, apertures, and ISO settings.  If I see a high quantity taken at say 24mm with a high ISO, then I might benefit from a faster lens.
I think that you have a good selection, but if you are taking a lot of images at 24mm but a normal ISO range, perhaps a wider lens would be a benefit.  A 16-35mm L would be a nice adition.  Never base your purchases on a rumor, some new lenses have been rumored for 6 or 7 years.
Canon just started a lens rebate, so take a look at your focal lengths and pick one that you need.
Using the metadata tools in Lightroom might pay for it by saving you money on a correct lens selection.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 1Dx Err 80 is only the beginning
« on: August 12, 2012, 02:04:19 PM »
I report the error 80 five month ago but no firmware update came up.

There are futher errors that are not fixed.

That´s the fact.

Canon. You are going to loose customers.
Amazing, you have had a production1D X for 5 months?  I thought they just began delivery.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 5dc, better than T1i?
« on: August 12, 2012, 02:01:28 PM »
Getting a faster lens will be a long lasting purchase, and give you one or two stops gain.  This might be a issue with shallow depth of field, but it usually is not a problem except for very close images.
The 5D will also be a benefit, but its also getting up there in years, and there is a good possibility thast Canon will not support it at some time in the not too distant future.
I'd recommend going for a faster lens rather than going to FF and then buying a bunch of new lenses anyway, if only because your lenses will all be much wider and you will need longer ones.
Consider that you will need some new lenses as well as the body.  That 28mm f/1.8 lens produces a image similar to a 45mm image on your crop, so a 50mm f/1.8 would be the FF equivalent.

EOS Bodies / Re: 1Dx and CF card issue?
« on: August 12, 2012, 01:53:20 PM »
+1 for the remaining shot estimate having the potential to be wildly off. I saw the same on my 450D and currently experience this on my (gasp) D700. It reads 605 shots remaining for an empty 16GB card, where I regularly get 1200+ in real conditions.

Just changing the ISO is not the whole story. File size is a function of the entropy of the image, which in this case is most commonly created through noise. As noise is typically highly amplified in shadow OOF regions, these are the sorts of images that will take up more card space. Images with high ISO shot in good light, such as for high shutter speeds, will not increase the file size as much as images shot in low light at high ISO with large amounts of dark OOF areas.
If the camera were amplifying the dark regions more than the light ones, all we would get is a gray image with little or no contrast.  Canon has not yet been able to control the gain of individual photosites, and, if they did, they still would not amplify dark ones to brighten them up.  Black is black.

You are not correct in believing that the t4i sensor is the same. 
Canon has stated that they believe 18mp is the optimum photosite count for the best overall quality of a APS-C sensor, but that does not mean all 18mp sensors are the same.
The T4i sensor has changed to allow hybrid autofocus.  There are some microphotos of it here:
Here is the 550D Sensor:  https://chipworks.secure.force.com/catalog/ProductDetails?sku=CAN-1190&viewState=DetailView&cartID=&g=&parentCategory=a0u40000000QQstAAG&navigationStr=ListProduct&searchText=
The 7D Sensor:  https://chipworks.secure.force.com/catalog/ProductDetails?sku=CAN-1160&viewState=DetailView&cartID=&g=&parentCategory=a0u40000000QQstAAG&navigationStr=ListProduct&searchText=
Here is a index to the image sensors analyzed by Chipworks.  They do not necessarily check them all, someone has to buy the analysis.  Normally, a analysis is purchased by the competition to help determine if a patent violation has occurred, for example. 

Software & Accessories / Re: Need to PDF a set of photos
« on: August 12, 2012, 01:17:34 PM »
Not included in Windows
Adobe Acrobat is the best at this, but there are several other programs that will work fine. Unfortunately, I have not found a photo website that lets you view them online.  You can also save as multi page tiffs.
I also use ACDSEE's Photoslate 4 to create multi page albums and save them as PDF's.  I can select the image size to save, so a small file for e-mail, or a large high quality one for printing.  I usually end up saving them with Acrobat because it makes a smaller file for the quality. 
I'm sure that there are lots of third party PDF generators.

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