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EOS Bodies / Re: B & H is already selling 7D Mark II Accessories
« on: August 19, 2014, 11:57:54 AM »
I wouldn't get my hopes up with the SD card.  I've not found them to be nearly as fast as CF.  With the expected fps increase, it will need as fast a card as it can get.

Why anyone would hope for a SD card is beyond me, they are poor performers unless you do a slow low level format before using them.  I don't like the pins on a CF card, but its performance is so much better.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Just got my 1dx back from Canon with a dirty sensor?
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:17:17 PM »
The spots do not seem to be in the same place on the vertical and rotated view.  What was done differently between the two shots?

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon mirrorless: Status?
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:12:42 PM »
I'd love to see a mirrorless FF body that was large enough to hold, that matched the FF lenses in size and balance, that had a internal EVF, that had a battery big enough to take 900 photo CIPA rating, that had good tracking, that had fast autofocus, and so on.

We are edging closer, but its not in sight ... Yet.  I'm sure its coming as soon as technology allows it.  In the meantime, the compromises of a mirrorless combined with the high price do not make it attractive to me.  People bought the "M" because of the low price.  However, its only low because Canon is dumping them.  A new improved model is going to be North of $800, and it will still be lacking.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 No Longer in Production
« on: August 18, 2014, 12:09:59 PM »
The now 18 mp ubiquitous sensor first made its appearance in the 7D. Did this next appear in a xxD or a xxxD ? I'm not sure but my guess is that is was an xxD, perhaps the 60D.

In fact, it did appear next in the T2i/550D, but not until the following year, then in the 60D a few weeks later.  It's certainly in Canon's best interest to use a sensor in multie bodies across multiple lines. 

What's crazy and illogical is to take two separate facts (that the 7DII might have new sensor tech and that there hasn't been an xxxD update this year), and draw a causal link between them.  It's particularly crazy and illogical given the existence of a new 20 MP DPAF sensor that's been used in just one body to date.  Canon has made APS-C sensors used in only one body, but those have all been xxxD/xxxxD bodies, where the production volume means costs are recouped without needing to 'trickle down'.

It does sound like Canon is clamping down on costs.  There have been some rumors saying that new sensor is difficult to produce, so dropping it into a low end body might have to wait until production costs drop and volume can be increased.  It also differentiates the 70d line and provides a enticement for buyers to spend more money.  Its hard to tell why it has not trickled down yet.  I'm not sure how 70D sales stand, but, if they are relatively high, then Canon will not want to pull the rug from under high profits.  Nikon has done that, and hurt profit levels.


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Canon General / Re: Canon lens comparible to a 150-500 or 150-600
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:57:49 AM »
I define) so I can focus on a bird partly hidden by a branch.... Can't do that too readily with an SLR.

OTOH, a good friend is very satisfied with the performance from his 150-600m Tamron on his D7100; finds it quite sharp beyond 400mm but does get noticeably soft between 500 to 600mm.

So, even if CaNikon don't make such a lens at that price point, there are viable options.

Exactly, the third party lens makers find and fill a gap that they see, and are able to provide customers who do not want to spend $5K or 10K on a near perfect lens, when one that is very good will do the job.  Casual uses do not need ultra reliability, they can take care with their lenses and when treated carefully, the low end lenses will last.  Still, I do buy old cameras, and when there is a old third party lens in with a camera along with Canon lenses, its almost a sure bet that the old Vivitar, or Sigma lens will not function.  They usually have lube gone solid, and getting it out is very difficult.  Some also have lube that has gone to liquid and is all over the aperture blades.  In either case, its not worth fooling with.  I take them apart and save the screws, I always seem to find a need to replace a tiny lost screw, my old 5D I bought this weekend needed 2 screws, and I had them.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon 5D Mark III Pain Smearing
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:45:02 AM »

I have two 5DIII's and a single 5DII, all bought a year apart. I've used them quite heavily in a professional capacity, shooting a lot of weddings and I've not had this issue. But it wouldn't surprise me if Canon had a rogue batch. Stuff on the production line some times goes out of spec due to suppliers supplying out of spec paint.

The paint issues seem to be more common, I think its because Canon is outsourcing more and more, and has difficulty keeping suppliers from cutting corners.  I've seen this happen in my industry, outsource a part, then tell the supplier to cut the cost 25%, and a couple of years later, another 25%.  They drive a supplier either into bankruptcy, or to cutting corners.  I've seen it happen, a supplier goes bankrupt and it costs much more than was saved to rescue him or to find another.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 No Longer in Production
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:38:47 AM »

To me it seems that it is quite likely the next xxxD will have the same sensor as is in the 7DII. If they bring it out before the 7DII then maybe they think it will eat away some of the 7DII sales from the people that have a 7D now and are just looking for a camera that produces better IQ (and not necessarily better fps/AF) whereas if the first camera that 7D owners see with the new sensor is the 7DII then they stand to get more carry over sales from people who see it and say "I WANT!" (or at least that's my thinking, feel free to point out where I'm wrong.) So new sensor in new 7D model, maximise profits from upgraders buying new expensive camera that they may not need but want.

Now had they of released a new xxxD camera a month or two ago with existing sensor technology and then a few months later the 7DII comes along with a new sensor then maybe they're afraid that sales of the xxxD will stall because people will wait for xxx+1D from Canon with the same upgraded sensor tech that is in the 7DII. That would also prevent them from releasing a new xxx+1D that uses the new tech in the 7DII in the first half of 2015 because it would be too soon between models. It won't necessarily matter what is new in the 7DII just that the 7DII will have all the new stuff and people will want the new stuff in cheaper bodies and may delay purchasing decisions because of it.

So a bigger gap between xxxD models (no real problem with sales) so that they can slot in the 7DII and roll forward with whatever new goodies (new DIGIC too?) come in that.

Sound like a reasonable plan or am I just crazy?

I think you are right!

Its a typical policy for all manufacturers, and Canon is nothing, if not consistent and conservative in their operation.


However, with DSLR sales dropping, Canon may just not want to turn out new models as fast.  A new model, even if it only has a new badge on it costs a manufacturer a ton of money.  Old stock must be discounted, advertising materials and media must be updated (It costs a lot of $$ to make new TV commercials).  The cost of stocking warehouses with a rebadged product is also high, they have to build cameras at full speed for 3 -6 months to get them in the pipeline.  Doing this every year is a business expense that drags down profits, and if it does not generate enough new sales to make a good ROI, Canon won't do it.

Canon had stated (about a year or two ago) that a new 7D would only come out when there was a significant  upgrade, obviously, they have been working at finding better technology that is producible  at a target cost and sell for a big profit.  Once they skim the cream off the early adopters, the upgrades will trickle down to consumer models, and some of the advanced tech held back from a 7D will appear in the high end models.

Canon is very predictable.


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Canon mirrorless: Status?
« on: August 18, 2014, 10:20:03 AM »
You only need to look at the public sales figures for mirrorless cameras to see why Canon is not pushing one.  Sales are poor and dropping rapidly.  Canon and Nikon executives have admitted this, and the sales figures bear it out.  We do not know other than statements made saying that buyers in the US and Europe prefer DSLR's to Mirrorless, buyers see mirrorless as just another point and shoot. 

Manufacturers who produce products that don't sell are going to be in big trouble.  There are some that produce a relatively few cameras for high prices to serve the niche market.

Sony sales of Digital cameras are plummeting like everyone else, they do not give information about specific types, but point and shoot cameras are certainly the biggest part of the drop.  Their push for mirrorless cameras provides buyers with options, but don't forget... Sony drops divisions that are losing money and leaves buyers stranded.  No more Sony PC's or Laptops, they exited that business.  Sellers still have them in inventory, but Sony wrote them off.

With the Camera business hurting, they might be next.

Nikon stock is rapidly approaching junk levels, they don't have as many other divisions that can prop them up.

Canon is doing relatively well due to strong sales in industrial segments, they were stung severely by the poor "M" sales, they will not send good money after bad.


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Canon General / Re: Need help to get deleted Canon photos back
« on: August 18, 2014, 12:21:39 AM »
The OP cannot access his card and his computer cannot read it and the camera will not write to it.  There is no need to give him advice on overwriting files, he is unable to do anything but format the card without using recovery software.

Its not necessary to format the card for good recovery software to work.  However, as long as you do not do a full format or low level format, the data can be recovered.

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Canon General / Re: Canon lens comparible to a 150-500 or 150-600
« on: August 17, 2014, 10:33:51 PM »
If we see a new 100-400F5.6, and probably for $2500, it will probably resolve more distant detail at 400mm than the Tamron does at 600mm, but once again, for twice the price.

That white paint job and name Canon automatically doubles or triples the price.

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Here in the U.S., if they make three attempts to fix the same issue and it still doesn't work, they're obligated to replace the entire product.  I don't know if Canada has any similar laws, but it might be worth looking into.  :)

There is no US law requiring replacement of a camera after three repair attempts.  There is a lemon law for new automobiles, and some state laws may have such terms.

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PowerShot / Re: What Else is Coming for Photokina? [CR2]
« on: August 17, 2014, 10:20:15 PM »
I'm hoping for an X Mark II L Calculator Mouse, with a direct print button and a red cord. 

Who's with me??   8)

I used to have a Fujitsu keyboard with built-in clock, calsulator, and trackball.  Why not a mouse? 

It could also have a camera built-in.  OOPS, that patent is taken :D
 
http://www.google.com/patents/US6525306

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Deal: Canon EOS 6D Body $1399
« on: August 17, 2014, 10:13:22 PM »
That is a good deal.  I paid $350 for a used 5D classic yesterday, mostly to play around with.  Prices usually start their end of the year drop around Labor day, so they are early this year.  Canon does not have as high of a inventory level as they had last year, but sales are much slower as well.  Their latest financial report indicates a 54 day turnover, but if sale slow, that will increase.


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EOS Bodies / Re: Help with broken 7d, loyalty program, and more
« on: August 17, 2014, 10:05:23 PM »
When this happened to my 300D, it was a bent CF card pin that had shorted the power bus and had blown a device. The cost of repair was not much. Check in the CF slot if you can see a bent pin...

How in heck do you bend a pin on a CF slot?  There are all multiple guards in there to prevent incorrect insertion....  the only way I can think of for a pin to get bent (other than sticking something else down into the slot) is for the pin to be slightly bent from the factory, so that it misses its hole with certain cards.  That or a defective CF card with a missing hole....  Sheesh.

As a interconnect designer, and having spent 30+ years working with manufacturers, users, and as a SAE member creating standards, In my opinion, the CF design is really poor from a reliability standpoint, and bent pins are common.  I've had two DSLR's with bent pins as well as a couple of card readers.  The Canon design is reverse to accepted practice of putting socket contacts on the side with power.  The contacts should be on the flash card side where they can be tossed if bent, rather than blowing fuses and incurring a $250-$300 repair bill.  Other common designs included shrouded pins which keeps them from bending over.  The SD card eliminates the pin/socket issue nicely, but has other issues that make it less suitable for high speed work.  We do need a new replacement for CF cards, but the volume is likely too low to spark much interest.

Scooping (inserting the card at a angle) can bend a pin if tolerances add up, or if a card is not perfect (they are molded parts that warp, shrink, etc.  I've seen such parts change dimensionally after installation due to stress relieving in the plastic.  There are almost no ordinary design precautions taken.  The reason is that the CF card was first, and digital cameras were new and unknown when introduced.  They became a defacto standard.

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Canon General / Re: Canon lens comparible to a 150-500 or 150-600
« on: August 17, 2014, 09:49:01 PM »
Generally, Canon, and Nikon do not try to compete with the low cost lenses.  They can't compete.  Their entire system from design thru production is based on high end items aimed at professional photographers.

This has been the case for 50+ years.

They do have consumer grade lenses, but also avoid competing with their high end stuff.  They also limit the minimum aperture to f/5.6, which is the specification for fast and reliable autofocus for consumer cameras. 

We might see a new 100-400L for $2200, a 150-600mm f/5.6 zoom when done right is going to be big and expensive.

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