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EOS Bodies / Re: DPReview 5D3 review out
« on: May 25, 2012, 03:31:41 PM »
I have the D800 and have returned my 5D MK III after a month (I bought a 1D MK IV). 
 
The DPR review is pretty accurate based on my experience.  Each camera takes excellent images, and has its strong points as well as weak ones.  I'd grade them as being equal myself, but one camera might be better at certain things.  One thing for sure, computer makers and SSD makers will benefit from owners frustrated with the time to process the huge files.  I like the D800's extra features like the built-in AF-Assist light, but the menu system is horrible. It seems like there is a button for everything, but trying to find them in the dark is bad news. The other bad thing about the D800, and DPR mentioned it, perhaps not strongly enough, and that is the need to use the very best glass, and the utmost care in setting up your shot.  Otherwise, your images will be no sharper than the 5D MK III.  It makes good lenses look bad, so plan to buy only the top lenses and spend $$$$$!
 
I may very well sell the D800 and get another 5D MK II to go with my 1D MK IV.

Are you enjoying the 1D4 then?

Yes, its a great camera, the best I've owned for my usage.  Obviously, MF was better for portraits, and the D800 is also excellent, but you must be deliberate and careful, and use the best of the best glass.  I can definitely see the better resolution in D800 images, but I rarely need that level.   I did need to crop severely at a recent event, where the only Nikkon lens I thought was usable was my 24-70mm f/2.8G, and it wasn't long enough.  The cropping ability can be useful.
 
Here is a 1D MK IV image at ISO 12800
 

 
 
 
 
 
And one at 12800 with the D800.  Both require a lot of NR, but will print fine at reasonable sizes.
 

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They are now single coated, so that should help some, I assume there is some issue with multi coating them, or we would be seeing this.  Either a lack of production tooling, or a process issue.

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Software & Accessories / Re: SD card for 5d mk iii
« on: May 25, 2012, 03:05:23 PM »
I'd go with this 45: http://amzn.to/HvmDVK
I have a few of them and they work very well.

-MS

Thanks for the link! I just bought one!

Its not that the SD slot is slow, the issue is that it does not take advantage of the speed offered by UHS-1.  So, if you buy a UHS-1 card, it will fall back to class 10, and you have paid for a speed you will not get or use.  The referenced card is 45 mb/sec when you have a UHS-1 compatible camera, but much slower with a 5D MK III. 
 
The card will fall back to a 30mb/sec, and basically operate like this card, so you paid extra for speed you will not get.
 
 http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-SDHC-Class-SDSDU-032G-U46/dp/B007BJHEWK/ref=pd_cp_pc_3

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EOS Bodies / Re: Possible issues with Sandisk Extreme Pro 32g CF
« on: May 25, 2012, 02:50:40 PM »
This is a clear sign that the card is going bad...!
they are both brand new used once.

With a hard drive, losing a memory block is often a sign that its dying.  not necessarily so with a CF card, but you need to watch it.
 
Did you do a low level format in your computer?  In windows, you can also scan all the memory blocks to look for bad ones, and then fix them.
 
If you do a scan every week for a few weeks and no more pop up, its brobably ok.  If you find more bad blocks, then the card is dying.  If you are in doubt, run a scan several times in a row and that will show dying blocks as well.  I use Rescue 4 Pro which writes to every memory cell on the card, and marks bad ones.  I've never had a bad one, so I don't know if it gives a report of which ones it mapped out.

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Lenses / Re: Advice/suggestions extenders
« on: May 25, 2012, 02:40:53 PM »
Canon makes several 1.6x extenders for your lenses that give very little loss of IQ.  They are a little bulky, and they are all black and boxy, but they do come with their own neckstraps.

I've never seen a 1.6x.  I wonder how they compare with the new II or III series?

Yes, I have a 7D, but it does not produce the best of images when you need high ISO.  Adding extenders to a f/5.6 lens quickly reduces the light so that a high ISO is needed.  So its limited to bright light, or a fast lens.  I'm thinking of selling it since I bought the 1D MK IV, it has way better IQ at high ISO.

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Its difficult at best, with no autofocus.  Use a small aperture to help with depth of field. 
 
The other thing to watch out for is the exposure.  A dark venue with bright lights or spotlights will fool the autoexposure system, particularly at wide angles where there is a lot of black in the scene, but will be OK when zoomed in.  If you zoom out the results might be poor.

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5D MK III Sample Images / Re: My first try with the 5DMKIII
« on: May 25, 2012, 12:07:02 PM »
Enjoy it.  The Kit lens is not a low end beginner lens like the rebels use, its a pro lens and will sere you well.  I do not have a DVD recommendation, but Canon has several online short tutorials on how to use the autofocus and other features that might be useful.
 
Coming from a 5D MK II, I found everything fairly familiar, and learned the new features in a week or so.  The menu system and AF are huge improvements.  One of the poorly implemented changes is the unlit AF point.  Even in good light, its difficult to see, in lowe light, forget it.  There are workarounds to light it, but they are not very good.  The MK II was much better.  I'd not be wanting a 1D MK X that worked this way.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: My D800 Review
« on: May 25, 2012, 11:59:42 AM »
Videoing on the 1D4 gives good results

I haven't tried it but for a few seconds on my 1D MK IV, I'm not really into heavy duty video, I only tried it on the d800 at a rehearsal of a musical play that had some pretty fantastic sound and costumes, and only then  because it supposedly will autofocus while doing video, but that is questionable.  Singers and dancers moving about the stage fairly rapidly is not for HDDSLR video unless you get way back and do everything at a hyperfocal distance.  Then, it will be boring. 
 
I'd post some short video clips, but I was asked to not post them buy the director, and I'll respect his wishes.

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Lenses / Re: Advice/suggestions extenders
« on: May 25, 2012, 11:23:02 AM »
The IQ effect of a extender depends very much on the lens it is used with.  Don't go there with a low end lens, CA and distortion already in the lens will magnify.  With good glass, like the 70-200mm f/2.8 MK II a TC will provide excellent results, but slow AF.
 
I've had reasonable results with my 100-400mmL at 400mm, and a TC works very well with a 70-200mm f/4 IS too.
 
Here are some images of Mount Spokane (That snow covered peak in the center top of the image behind the trees) I took a year or two back with my 100-400mmL and 1D MK III.  This was the MK II TC, I would expect the MK III to be better.
 
50mm f/1.4 (65mm equiv) for a baseline
 

 
 
 
 
400mm (520mm equiv) no TC Now you can see the mountain and the TV tower that my Internet provider uses to broadcast from)
 

 
 
400mm +1.4TC (728mm equiv)
 

 
 
400mm + 2X TC (1040mm equiv)
 

 
 
 
400mm with 1.4X +2X stacked (1456mm equiv)
 

 
 
 
And, a 1:1 crop with my 5D MK III hand held snapshot.
 

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EOS Bodies / Re: DPReview 5D3 review out
« on: May 24, 2012, 10:57:54 PM »
I have the D800 and have returned my 5D MK III after a month (I bought a 1D MK IV). 
 
The DPR review is pretty accurate based on my experience.  Each camera takes excellent images, and has its strong points as well as weak ones.  I'd grade them as being equal myself, but one camera might be better at certain things.  One thing for sure, computer makers and SSD makers will benefit from owners frustrated with the time to process the huge files.  I like the D800's extra features like the built-in AF-Assist light, but the menu system is horrible. It seems like there is a button for everything, but trying to find them in the dark is bad news. The other bad thing about the D800, and DPR mentioned it, perhaps not strongly enough, and that is the need to use the very best glass, and the utmost care in setting up your shot.  Otherwise, your images will be no sharper than the 5D MK III.  It makes good lenses look bad, so plan to buy only the top lenses and spend $$$$$!
 
I may very well sell the D800 and get another 5D MK II to go with my 1D MK IV.

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Hmmm..I'm not so sure about putting the camera on P for the first 10k shots and everything on center focus - I beg to differ with Mt. Spokane.  That's what my neighbor did and is afraid to try anything else since he bought the camera years ago.  He spent $3k on a 20D, kit lens and flash a the time of release and shoots everything in P.  Of course this is all a matter of matter of opinion but you could have bought a G12 for that type of stuff.

Did I say use it in the "P" mode for 10K shots?  I beg to differ, I did NOT.  I suggested he put it on P and demonstrate to himself that the camera will take sharp images before he starts using other modes which require more experience.  Trying to use the other modes without first learning the basics can lead to frustration.  Someone who has never used a DSLR before needs to start from the basics.
 
BTW, the "P" mode is not the Green Box mode.

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When I was buying my 40D in 2008, I was thinking well, I'll first get into Canon system and then will grow into fullframe.
And because I am a pure hobbyist, I actually never had neither the money nor the excuse to pay big $ for FF camera and lenses.

In the end I've stuck with Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 (non-VC), Canon 85mm f1.8, Canon 10-22mm, Rokinon fisheye and Canon 55-250mm.

From these lenses only Canon 85mm f1.8 is designed for FF, all others are for APS-C only.
And still these lenses are quite large compared micro43 lenses altough the sensor size difference is not that large.
Indeed, Canon APS-C sensor diagonal is 26.7mm, while m43 is 21.6mm, so the difference is just 5.1mm!
Obviously, size optimisation wasn't a priority task for designers of the lenses I own, as again opposed to m43 system.

With the high quality mirrorless cameras like Olympus E-M5, the rumored Panasonic GH3 and more and more good lenses supporting that system, it seems to me that APS-C system is becoming an anachronism.
Really, for half the weight and close price, one can build similar or better system with m43.

I really see not much point in APS-C cameras anymore. First, they're not a good helpers for you to grow to FF. Second, there is no strong commitment to this format even by manufacturers themselves. They just have produced the most necessary line  of lenses, mostly mediocre quality, which is understandably to attract
amateurs by price. In all those years no single really high quality APS-C lens, which would approach to L-glass (apart from maybe the 17-50mm f2.8 by Nikon).

Most importantly I don't see any SYSTEM in APS-C especially by Canon! If it's a system, then where is the EF-S 50-150mm f2.8, which should correspond to 70-200mm in FF?
Sigma is the only helper here, where are the primes, like EF-S 15mm, EF-S 22mm, EF-S 35mm 1.8, EF-S 50mm 1.8 etc?

The idea of APS-C was nice - to make amateurs enter into interchangeable lenses world. Now, this role is better fullfilled by m43.
APS-C format was a good dollar-machine, but I believe not anymore.

Will we see slow die-out of APS-C in near future? Or Canikon will be smart enough to trasnform in into more compact format, with less pain to EF-S and DX lens owners?

I've never seen Canon sell the Rebels as a system to move to FF.  It stands alone. 
 
However, if a person has plans to move to FF in the near future, purchase lenses that are good for both.  The 17-40mm L, 24-105mm L, 70-200mmL (f/4 or f/2.8), in fact, many EF lenses are out there, both high quality, or inexpensive.  However, EF-S lenses will never work on a Canon FF.  Buy them if you plan to stick with APS-C.  There is nothing wrong with that, it will be around for a long time.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Is this deal too good to be true?
« on: May 24, 2012, 09:35:38 PM »
I always use a credit card to purchase high end items on ebay, so if PayPal or Ebay balks, I merely call my bank, and the item is charged back to PayPal. 
 
You need to file a claim with PayPal, not with ebay.  Paypal is the one with your money, they will withhold it from the seller if you notify them right away before he actually gets it.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: My D800 Review
« on: May 24, 2012, 06:49:21 PM »
I've been busy using the D800 and 1D MK IV, so I do not yet have much of a a update.  One think I can say, is that it takes a lot more time to edit, due to lengthy processing time for a large number of files, but it is not so much that spending $3K on a new computer wouldn't fix ;)
 
The other thing, is that it makes Nikons lesser lenses look like rubbish, and their best ones look none too good.  Without extreme care, images are no better than the 5D MK III and the kit lens. There are a few other quirks that bother me, and some features that really shine.
 
So far, I'm not in any hurry to dump my Canon stuff and switch to Nikon.  I tried video the other night, but was not impressed with the autofocus.  However, it will autofocus slowly while taking a video, but it loses focus and ends up with fuzzy video. (Even though the Green focus indicator shows its in focus)
 
To be fair, I've only used it for a few thousand shots over a 1 week period, but I can now operate it in the dark, even changing most settings, so I've become pretty proficient with it.
 
I do not have a equivalent of the 35mmL or 135mmL to use with it, in fact, I have stopped using all lenses but the 24-70mm G, its very good, but not up to the 35mmL or 135mm L.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Another SanDisk Sale at B&H
« on: May 24, 2012, 06:36:22 PM »
Very often, what is advertised is a sale based on the MSRP, not the normal selling price.  Canon requires sellers to do this, perhaps Sandisk is doing the same.
 
You really need to know the pricing in order to make a good decision.

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