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Would this sensor have the same noise that all of the FF owners are complaining about when they see the 7D2 samples?
Sure, and that would be the reason why Canon didn't upscale their crop sensors yet. Of course that's only at 100% magnification, and if you downsample and denoise to 20mp crop the ff sensor would still have a large edge - but color fidelity and postprocessing elasticity would still suffer.I'd be more worried about diffraction as well. At f/11 it's already kicking in on the crop and f/16+ is barely usable at all.
True and this is a huge issue for macro, but aren't most people with ff sensors rather using smaller apertures than f11? The one problem I can imagine would be "infinite dof" landscape, but then there's focus stacking... how do d800/d810 owners deal with diffraction?
why don't they establish a thread specifically for this topic and leave it there.
I indeed have a problem to hear the DR topic repeatedly.
in looking at DR... Is it just more at ISO 100 to 200 that you all want or higher consistent DR across the whole range..? Some of the higher DR cameras really start to drop off as ISO increases...
Color and pattern noise give us an idea about sensor performance, but they are not taken into consideration when calculating DR. So you should leave Noise Ninja checked on at default setting too (chroma NR 50) and look at the luminance noise. Make sure that Detail slider is set to zero as it tends to enhance noise. Now throw in D7100 (DR 13.9 according to DXO) in the mix and see what happens. You won't see much difference in noise. So, I don't know if we can take this test too seriously to get an idea about DR. We need proper shadow lifting and read noise measurement. Other caveat is that 7DII is not supported officially by any RAW converter yet, we can't really rely on these tests.
Something else I have noticed and not sure what to make of this. Take this 3 cameras, do above adjustments, but leave the shadow slider at zero. Export the JPEG files to LR or CS and adjust exposure by +1 (or save as JPEGs and open again with PN and adjust exposure by +1). Now look at the cup, it is darker in 7DII file compared to other two cameras. Look at the whole scene, everywhere 7DII retains more color and detail (except for overblown areas) compared to 7D and D7100. Is it because 7DII scene is slightly underexposed? Lighting has changed? RAW converter needs fine tuning? Something else?
A quick 2 questions:
1) Has anyone asked Canon directly why they don't offer a higher-mpixel camera? Asking someone other than a marketing guy, that is.
2) Has anyone from Canon provided a clear, reasonable reply to why their current product offering is as good, if not better than Nikon/Sony at 36mpixel (rumored to soon go to 46mpixel)?
A link to something (Presentation? Whitepaper? Engineering paper?) would be great. I'd like to take the time to understand (as best I can) why Canon is "stuck" in it's current position.
I guess it depends on your purpose of purchase. As a photographer, I can see the idea of this camera, although…. why not either boost the sensitivity of the chip to compete with Sony's A7s or boost the pixels so you don't feel like you are licking the 5D3 in the ass….
What could really make the Canon 7D II look like bullshit is the Samsung NX1 which was just announced:
28.2MP BSI APS-C CMOS sensor
4096 x 2160: 24 fps
3840 x 2160: 30 fps
1920 x 1080: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
1280 x 720: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
640 x 480: 60 fps, 30 fps, 24 fps, 50 fps, 25 fps
Clean HDMI 4:2:2 (8-bit)
H.265 Codec applied to 4K and UHD video files
Tiltable 3.0″ HD 1036k-dot touchscreen
205 phase-detection AF points
15 fps burst mode
1/8000 Max Shutter Speed
ISO range from 100 to 51,200
Camera can utilize UHS-I or UHS-II-SD-type memory cards
1/8" Headphone, 1/8" Microphone, HDMI D (Micro), USB 3.0
802.11b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi capability coupled with Bluetooth 3.0 technology
Samsung NX Lens Mount
Price: $1,500 Body Only, $2,800 with 16-50mm f/2-2.8 S ED OIS Lens