I would be interested in playing around with a mirrorless body only if it were EF compatible. I don't want to add a whole new system of lenses.
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From what I read at the bottom of your posts, you guys own a lot of gear, but considering the uselessness and waste of time of the discussion you're having, not that many clients to use it for!!!
I have no problem with people moving to Nikon. However I do think that the constant putting down of Canon to justify moving to Nikon with so called 'facts' to justify their move is not appropriate on a Canon Rumours forum. I dont logon to this forum to join in with speculation/rumours about Nikon kit.
You dont hear me critisicing Canon, Nikon or any of the other manufacturers. I have a lot of old kit which one might say is ready for replacement (from a technology point of view).
I dont say that the 5DIII is overpriced - that is a purely subjective point of view.
I dont say that the D800 is a great camera and the 5DIII is rubbish because again that is a purely subjective point of view
I cannot even say that I will upgrade 'to get the best' because I am nowhere near achieving the potential from my existing kit (even though I could fancy the latest and greatist and upgrade)
Older technologies still deliver, and deliver cheaply. My 1Ds3 is now worth about the same as a new 5DII. I would consider the 1DS3 an upgrade from a 5DII - for my photographic needs. In fact I did upgrade my 5DII to the 1DS3 when I heard the 5DIII specification - because it met my needs better. When making the decision it was made entirely on the basis of the offering from Canon. I am not angry or disappointed with Canon because the 5DIII did not meet my needs. If none of the offerings met my needs I would have had 3 options:
1. Not upgrading - the 5DII gave high IQ images, so from that point of view I didn't need to upgrade. I did loads of weddings and christenings with it without a problem
2. Wait to see if anything else was coming along - the existing kit still gave the same good IQ
3. See if any other manufacturers offerings met my needs. Unlike most, I have bought most of my kit used so I would not 'lose' a lot of money on the existing kit. Obviously moving manufacturer is a lot more than buying a new camera.
It would have been sad to move away from Canon because I have nearly 20 year experience with them - but to feel angy or disappointed with them - definitely not. And I wouldn't vent my anger against them on a Canon Forum either as they have given me a good ride for 20 years. Switching camps is one thing, abusing the other camp is another.
I have 3 cameras and a bunch of lens that are outdated but they are upto anything I would like to do.
I wonder whether sometimes people upgrade because they believe that it is the kit which is as fault rather than their ability. I bought the best kit I could afford and then started working on getting the best images and I know I haven't got there yet - I wish sometimes other people in my position would focus on improving their photographic skills rather than moan about their kit and say how the latest will improve their photos - when in fact after upgrading they just churn out the same old photos they did on their old kit - and then vent their anger at the manufacturers about the poor kit.
The 7D 'soft focus' issue was 90% user error IMHO. I have 'fixed' so many 7D's which were 'rubbish' - the 7D I have at the moment I got cheap because it 'had the problem'. It is a cracking little camera, spot on AF and decent IQ. Yet Canon got so much stick because of this. This is another case of mass hysteria - one or two people got a faulty AF unit - and vented their anger long and loud on the forums so that suddenly all the useless owners thought they had the same problem and they vented their anger on the forums until it sprialled nearly out of control. Shades of the 5DIII 'light leak' methinks.
Bottom line is:
If you dont like the offering dont buy it
If you dont like the offering it isn't the manufacturers fault
If enough people dont like the offerings then the manufacturers will offer something else or go bust
@pdirestajr - great shots! My "deadline" for the D20 is well passed and I went with the S100 instead, but after seeing these shots I still may want to pick up a D20. Thanks for sharing!
There is also the benefit that the APS-C sensor shoots the "sweet spot" of the lens. So you can use old lenses like the 35mm f/2.0 and get a super sharp image across the frame! On a FF, it may get a bit ugly in the corners.
That's true, but it's really a strange argument if you think about it. You probably could built an older ef lens cheaper as ef-s without the non-used non-"sweet spot" glass around the center. It might not make such a difference and it depends on the zoom range, but with ef lenses on aps-c you're carrying dead weight.I think Canon should take a leaf out of Nikon's book and allow EF-S lenses to fit full frame cameras, using a discrete part of the sensor - the APS-C part.
However, it seems Nikon users don't really use that option much, they seem to use fx glass on a fx sensor. For this and marketing reasons, I guess there's no way Canon will follow this path, though it would be handy if engineered with no additional cost.
I have another question: I intend to sell my Canon 55-250mm f/4-5.6 to buy Canon 35mm f/2 for portrait shoots (separation of subject from background is important to me). However, I don't know if f/2 of the 35mm can create shallow DoF like (or better than) the 55-250mm with long focal length or not?
I use crop sensor and don't want to move to far from subject so the 50mm f/1.8 or f/1.4 or longer focal length are not suitable for me.
Any advice for me on that? Thank you very much!
... and how "basic" the 5Dii was. Of course the 5Dii's sensor is beautiful and beats the 7D's.
I totally don't understand how anyone can say the 5DIII was a "small" upgrade! It has upgraded basically EVERYTHING.
for sure thats why i've got a bright screen for my 5dmk2 and it's getting used with my manual focus lenses now
its a pretty sweet combo
the mk3 is just so much better handling than the mk ii