« on: August 07, 2013, 06:52:02 PM »
I don't personally have a problem discussing DR, even begging Canon for more. I've argued, here on CR, both sides of what I guess is a rather fine line...not long ago I got stuck in a DR debate and had to produce my own photos with 14 stops of DR to demonstrate how Canon lags behind the rest of the industry. I don't deny they need to work on it. I would love to discuss it more.
I do have a serious problem with ankorwatt, however. He is unfathomably narrow sighted, makes ridiculously inaccurate claims on a regular basis, has an unbeatable bias against Canon, and seems to do everything he can at every opportunity to bash and beat down Canon as an incompetent, incapable competitor that produces products unworthy of even being spoken about, rumormongored about by Canon fans, etc. He interjects debate into every single thread, makes bold claims that are completely false, obfuscates at every opportunity, directly insults and berates other members (particularly about their intelligence), and is otherwise the largest pain in the rear end I can imagine. I greatly dislike him, and for some reason, despite considerable effort to leave the issues be...I just can't seem to let some of his comments go. I think everyone, including myself, is sick and tired of hearing about how much ankorwatt thinks the D800 and Sony Exmor are the greatest thing since the Breath of Life itself woke man up out of the dust of the Earth, and yet none of us can get away from it. He's always there, either starting a new argument or berating some member, always over the same thing even when the topic has absolutely nothing to do with DR, sensors, or the D800. I think he is the root cause of 90% of the debates on this forum, the ever-present antagonist, and I think we could have far more civil discussions about dynamic range, sensor technology, etc. if he wasn't around pushing every Canon-fanboy button he can find all day every day. I try to exit debates with him as quickly as I can if I end up in one, and I try to ignore as much else that he says as possible. One thing I just can't let be, however, is anyone believing him when he says that Canon is incapable of competing in the marketplace, is incapable of building a new fab and therefor must use other manufacturers technologies, or that the only way to produce good photos is to get a D800. If someone wastes their money believing that crap, dumps their kit, and buys into Nikon only to find out they despise the ergonomics, or the menus, or any number of other Nikon features that are inferior to Canon's...well, I'd always feel I could have spoken up and given them a more realistic basis upon which to base such a decision.
I do think Canon needs to improve their fabrication technology and get up to date with modern sensor design. I don't think anyone here really thinks otherwise. I think everyone who needs it would LOVE to have the kind of DR other cameras have. I think people react to the antagonism they feel from ankorwatt specifically, and maybe a few other non-Canon members generally, so the reaction is to defend their chosen brand, rather than have a more civil discussion about the rumors and technology that interest them. It isn't really the DRivel...sometimes its just drivel...and people get sick of it. It would be awesome to have a normal discussion about DR and sensor technology without having to fight about it over idiotic points that don't really matter in the end. It would be awesome to read a Big MP or 7D II rumor thread without wondering on which page the pointless debate is going to begin, and whether I'm going to read something I just plain and simply can't resist responding to because its so asininely idiotic...and yet believable enough that some poor sap is going to read it, think the wrong thing, and end up wasting their hard earned money jumping brands without first having all the facts. Bah.
Anyway...I agree. Canon needs to enter the modern age. They need to improve their sensor technology. They need to improve their dynamic range. They need to respond to their customers requests and deliver. I think they can, too...they certainly did with the last round of camera releases (the big outcry before the 1D X was "fewer megapixels, higher ISO w/ less noise")...unless they really truly have become bean-counter central and despite their capability, are really only interested in the bottom line. (If that IS the case...well, at some point the competition's better sensor technology will eventually hurt their bottom line, forcing them to react in kind.)
Quite well put IMO. The problem I have (and the reason I jump in to these) is that they tend to generate needless FUD (as you more or less point out). I think that is actually the goal of some of the protagonists, they think that if they keep beating the drum long enough Canon will be shamed into improving their performance in this particular specification. But in the meantime, people need to know what the DR really means to their photography and that doesn’t come through in many of these dogfights. Good comments.