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Canon General / Re: Is it worth *really* studying photography?still
« on: February 13, 2012, 04:39:30 AM »
Can someone please answer me this (as I'm now totally confused, googling(?) things isn't helping me ATM):

Can you still be a 'still image photographer' in the film industry? Like take behind the scenes photos in a movie (whilst it's still in production, etc)? I don't know what the profession is called and I'm really curious, I dunno what to google

Yes. Short answer -

A unit still photographer or simply, stills photographer is a person who creates still photographic images specifically intended for use in the marketing and publicity of feature films in the motion picture industry and network television productions.


Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« on: February 11, 2012, 11:08:27 AM »
I don't know why, but I find the lack of model name and features around the front rim unsettling.

Lenses / Re: Canon EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS in 2012 [CR2]
« on: February 11, 2012, 08:42:03 AM »
Are we/you quite certain it won't be push-pull?

If so, maybe the patents we've seen aren't the same lens. The current lens is 193mm-272mm in length. Both patents have it at 228-288mm in length. While not impossible, I don't see it as likely that a twist zoom would be physically longer than a push-pull.

Lenses / Re: Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II
« on: February 09, 2012, 10:38:24 AM »
Think about it?  How many L series lenses actually have IS?   The mkI 24-70 was my first piece of L glass, and before buying it I went back and forth between the 24-105 and the 24-70, debating whether I wanted 2.8 or IS.  When it came down to it, I decided to just turn off the IS on the kit lens and see what happened.  No IS wasn't a real problem until I got real low in SS.  It got me to thinking, really, when am I going to be shooting people, or really anything at all under 1/10th of a second without a tripod?  So I went with the 24-70 and haven't missed IS one bit.  I became confident enough without IS that i also bought a 10-22 no IS, and the 70-200 2.8 no IS (and mind you, I'm shooting on a 7D, so the 70-200 is effectively a 110-320mm)...

So in short, the only short-coming I can see with the mk11 is the change in filter thread size which puts someone with 2 other lenses at 77mm thread in a pickle for filter investment (maybe I need to get a step up ring, and make the investment in 82mm filters?).

6 Zooms and 11 Primes. Not a small number. Secondly IS isn't just for shorter exposure times. It works fantastically to reduce up/down movements when taking panning shots at any focal length.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM
Canon EF 28-300mm f/3.5-5.6 L IS USM
Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0 L IS USM
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS II USM
Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 L IS USM
Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L IS USM Macro
Canon EF 200mm f/2.0 L IS USM
Canon EF 300mm f/4.0 L IS USM
Canon EF 300mm f/2.8 L IS II USM
Canon EF 400mm f/4.0 DO IS USM Lens
Canon EF 400mm f/2.8 L IS II USM
Canon EF 500mm f/4.0 L IS II USM
Canon EF 500mm f/4.0 L IS USM
Canon EF 600mm f/4.0 L IS II USM
Canon EF 600mm f/4.0 L IS USM
Canon EF 800mm f/5.6 L IS USM

You guys in America are just being sold a line. The 24-70mm II is setting new pricing records EVERYWHERE. Just look at the RRP of the lens in the UK and Europe and tell me that your own price increase is simply due to differences in the Yen and US Dollar.

Canon General / Re: Is it worth *really* studying photography?
« on: February 06, 2012, 09:41:39 AM »
Depends where you live... In Denmark we get paid for studying photography (except ofcourse if you want to join the arty farty geeks you get to pay 6.000 dollars for one season....).

The Danish version uses a mixture of apprenticeship and school. You obtain the apprenticeship at an established master photographer (I was at www.skovdal.dk for 3 years where I learned technical photography and then 1 year at www.mortenlaursen.com) which honed my photoshop skills, and then every 6 months you get called back to school to sort of check up where you are at technically.
My first 6 months I spent learning all about exposure, types of lamps and reflectors and cameras. The next school periodes were more of a theme which have to solve over the course of 4-6 weeks and then get critiqued by our class mates.

The good thing about this way is you get the best of both worlds. From day one I'm in contact with clients doing "real" jobs every day every hour. You build the network straight away.
While in school you get in touch with different areas because not one master photographer or colleague is the same or have the same view on a specific thing.

If you were to learn on your own, I challenge you... you'd learn far slower and have a much narrower experience than through apprenticeship. I know how to operate pretty much all the cameras I could come across for specific jobs. I can set a Sinar without checking the matte plate now... took me a few years to get into the zone but it's pretty useful when standing ready with a large setup which includes food and what not.
This is entirely due to the vigorous exercises we were put through during school.

Now... I know America is another world, but maybe sometimes it would be interesting to get out and take another approach? Did I mention you get paid while you're in school as well? :P
The starting wage is roughly 1800 dollars a month and slowly raises as you progress in your studies (union settlements).

School: www.medieskolerne.dk
Guy to talk to: Gunnar Byskov

Seriously.... Why pay for learning?

Edit: handed in a few min ago, shot on Sinar with Phase One back and a  150mm. Daylight and 1 lamp. No exposure correction and lighting except for standard dehazing and sharpning. Added a little saturation:
that sounds good, getting paid while you learn! unfortunately i live in australia and we dont do it that way :( nice photo.

Going off at a slight tangent, what about these various 'professional bodies' where you pay an annual fee and you can get mentors and submit work to qualify for 'professional status' of sorts. I'm thing of the SWWP, BIPP and other 'pro' bodies, any thoughts on these?

That's the first time I have heard of these 'professional bodies'. Are they only based in the US? Or do they also operate online.

SWPP = Society of Wedding & Portrait Photographers
BIPP = British Institute of Professional Photography

Both are UK based.
Thanks, I'll check them out.

Just like anything in life you get back what you put in. Focus on getting all you can from your courses that you've already paid for, then maybe try and work out a better schedule. That's a pretty rough day!
I try to focus on what I've learnt in the short courses, but 3 of those courses were taught by the same old man - who is really old school and likes using film more than digital IMO. Those courses were: advanced photoshop, photojournalism, creative photography level 1 (which was pretty much basic intro of DSLR stuff), landscape photography, people and portrait photography and folio preparation (the latter 3 courses taught by the same old man and he repeated a LOT of things not to mention things overlapped, etc. Those were $650 each for 24hrs of classes devided. Rip off I think for that much money).

Really bad schedule, they said I can't change :( they said there's more people enrolled this year than previous years so now it's 4 groups instead of 3. It totally sucks, I gotta be at the train by at least 6.15am on wednesday morning to catch the train to make my 8am class (which goes for 6hrs, its a 'prac' class, dunno what we're doing though). Anyways my last class for that day ends at 8.30 but i think the teacher will keep talking and i prob won't get out til 9.45pm. won't get home til about 11.35pm, depends on the train and whether i gotta switch trains to get to the right train station. All in all it's stupid and I'm kinda looking into what other courses (even though it's too late since classes have started) that I can enroll in.

I forgot to mention the cost of this 1yr course. I thought it'd be about $10,000 (that's what they said last year). But I was wrong, they've increased it to over $11,200+. Cant remember exact cost but it over $11,200. That's ridiculous! I could buy the 1DX and the 5DIII (if canon decide ever to release it). It's not even the highest qualification. Cant remember what Im doing for class tomorrow, prob in the studio talking about OH&S for 4hrs but I remember I have a 3hr lecture at 6pm, which totally sucks.

that typo in the title is annoying me but I cant be bothered fixing it at the moment lol. obviously meant to be 'is it really *woth* studying...'

Really sounds like your main problem is that you're not adjusting well to life after high school. I had the same troubles. I enjoyed what I was studying, but there was a disconnect for me between the effort required to succeed as an adult, and what I was willing to do.

Are you studying a HECS funded course, or are you at a private University?

Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon 400 f/2.8 IS
« on: January 26, 2012, 03:14:20 AM »
I have the oppertunity to buy one of these lenses used for about $5000 Australian. The lens nearly unused and in perfect condition. Is this a good price? I'm having trouble finding used copies of this lens online to compare the price with. 1) There doesn't really appear to be too many and 2) The search results get mixed with the version II lens. I really don't NEED the lens, though at this price it seems hard to pass up.

Canon EF Zoom Lenses / Re: Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6 L IS USM
« on: January 22, 2012, 09:57:52 AM »
Took this lens to South Africa for the World Cup last year. Hadn't used it previous to taking it, but eventually warmed to the push/pull zoom system.

EOS Bodies / Re: 7D sensor poll
« on: January 03, 2012, 03:51:44 AM »
The H-sensor is dead. It's an anachronism. It existed because there wasn't enough horsepower under the hood to drive a full-frame sports camera.

That's just not really true at all is it? People keep saying this like FF vs. APS-H has anything to do with "horsepower" as in computing power. Canon had 35mm SLRs that shot 10 fps so it wasn't a mechanics were fine. So, they didn't have the computing power to throw 11.6mp around at 10fps when the 1Ds first came out. But that has nothing to do with the FF sensor. And the APS-H sensor of the 1D line wasn't the reason it could shoot 8.5 and 10fps.

APS-H has it's place and I would love to see it used again in a figure camera. It's a good balance of crop, IQ, and getting to use lenses closer to their intended focal length.

Are you certain this is 100% true? I have the faintest of memories that the actual physical size of the sensor played a part in data through-put - at least at one stage of digital camera history, if not now. Which would have the truth sitting somewhere in the middle. Of course my memory could be failing me, it's never been that good :)

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 3D & 5D Mark III Mentions
« on: January 02, 2012, 02:03:18 AM »
Almost certainly made up. The person who provided the rumour to NL mentions

It is seen as a 'Photographer's Camera'

I think it's likely just another person with an illogical hate for the video features that have been added to recent dSLRs. I don't see Canon removing video features from any of their cameras, and having video features in no way makes any of Canon's current lineup any less a 'Photographer's Camera' for having those features.

Australia / Re: Finally, cheap cameras in Australian shops
« on: December 04, 2011, 08:47:21 AM »
Australian consumer protection law is very strong. I doubt it would be easy or possible for JB Hi-Fi or even Canon to wriggle out of providing a reasonable warranty, regardless of whether the camera/lens is grey-market or not.

Australia / Re: Buying Camera gear in Aus? Who do you use?
« on: September 25, 2011, 01:49:47 AM »
In Perth I tend to buy from PRA Imaging in Northbridge. http://www.praimaging.com.au/

I live in a country area and have always found them helpful and postage quick.

For sub-$1000 items DigitalREV tends to get my money. Sometimes DigitalREV's anti-fraud requirements are over the top though. If you're randomly flagged and have to go through the extra requirements it's a royal pain in the arse.

EOS Bodies / Re: Nikon unveils V1 and J1 Mirrorless Cameras
« on: September 21, 2011, 10:48:12 AM »
.......   but f/2.8 on their CX sensor is equivalent to f/7.6 on FF...not very impressive....

I never knew there was a correlation as direct as that. So if I have a 24-105 f4, is that like f6.4 on a APS-C sensor; or do we need to consider other factors too.

Just learning here... cause then my f4 lens on a 5D is not too bad compared to his 70-200 f2.8 II on his 7D (f4.48 equivalent ?) or should other factors dwarf this correlation?

This is in terms of Depth of Field only. If you google depth of field and sensor size you should find several calculators to help you.

EOS Bodies / Re: Nikon unveils V1 and J1 Mirrorless Cameras
« on: September 21, 2011, 07:26:31 AM »
I personally can't see the appeal of APS-C sensors in tiny bodies. They're ridiculous. The 18-200mm lenses for example on the m43 system cameras is laughable. Much more practical to get an actual dSLR.

Nikon's smaller sensor however, allows for genuine miniturisation of interchangeable lense cameras. That said, for the size of their sensor and the slowness of the glass, the lenses really look too big to me, partly diminishing the size advantages.

Plus the bodies look awful.

Canon EF Prime Lenses / Re: Canon EF135mm f/2L USM
« on: August 18, 2011, 10:03:34 AM »

A Most Peculiar Day by Fesapo, on Flickr

I've been interested to find out how this lens / focal length performed on a 7D. Is that picture cropped in anyway?
It's hard to tell because of the resizing, but judging by the wall at the bottom right of the photo, it seems incredibly sharp right to the corners?

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