Zeiss 15 is definitely better, if you don't need AF, but they both can't beat Samyang 14/2.8 UMC, for the price
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If you use a longer focal length on FF, and shoot your scene in FF size sections, and then stitch these together so that the total stitched 'sensor' area is equal to, or greater than a MF sensor, will you achieve exactly the same result as MF ?
So let me get this straight..... MF is better because it has a bigger sensor and more pixels....
So I pay $43,000 for a Hasselbad H50-200MS..... now I need a lens.
Another $5,200 gets me a 300MM F4.5 lens... the longest one they make...
with the crop factor, thats like a 150mm lens on a FF camera.....
My 2 cents.
If canon can nail the Af issue, even if it means reverting to contrast detection only, then they are onto a winner.
They have a market of EF-s and EF users with lenses waiting to be used, a nice solid camera which has the concessions folk already live with when using most compact or compact system type cameras.
I don't see the point of a whole new line of EF-M lenses. ALL CSCs are bulky when they have anything other than a pancake on them, so just go with it. It makes sense to have the 18-55 M as it's most folks walkabout lens. Other than that if you want good reach and a big sensor you need a big camera. When you want a discreet compact camera use the pancake lens.
In the mean time canon could make the pancake lens a real winner by introducing, via firmware, a zone or hyperfocal mode for the pancake. Say 1.5m to infinity at something like f8. No need for slow AF. Just point and shoot and everything in range will be reasonably sharp. It would be a perfect street shooter.
For the dude saying it looks cheap/plasticky... the shell is metal. It's a very well made, sturdy compact.
At least this [CR1] together with other rumors or facts tells us where the Canon r&d resources go:
Into the emerging mirrorless market and high-end video, so there's little left to develop new "old-school" dlsrs (see 550d, 600d, 650d, 700d, ...) or replace the old L-lenses except for cash-cows like the delayed 200-400L.
A new autofocus system will come with the new cameras and promises to be “class leading”.