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EOS Bodies / Re: Big Announcements Coming Next Week [CR3]
« on: January 27, 2015, 11:45:01 AM »
People are going to argue black and blue that I'm wrong for doing this, but I'm not going to buy a new DSLR from Canon (or Sony!) - regardless of how good the sample images are - until it's been tested and evaluated by DxO.


Because scores aside, their methodology is fixed and the same for every model.

Thus I can look at their sensor measurements for noise and DR and get an independent view on where Canon are at with their new cameras relative to other cameras.

And to not put a finer point on it, I don't trust Canon to deliver significant IQ improvement just because it is a new FF sensor on a new camera.

This makes perfect sense if the criteria you seek in a camera is exactly the criteria DxO measures and you assign exactly the same relative weight to that criteria that DxO does.

This is true with any test. Tests can objectively measure specific criteria, but the determination of which criteria to measure and how to assign meaning to that measure varies wildly, always requires subjective judgement and does not necessarily reflect an individual's needs.

That you have found a testing lab that measures exactly what you consider to be the most important factors is great for you. Many others don't feel that way. Rather, many feel that the criteria DxO uses to select what measurements it takes do not reflect their needs, desires or even experience.

I am getting a little tired of the mantra, that the camera doesn't matter. Of course it does.

A camera is a tool, and all tools aren't equal. Some tools are better suited for certain tasks and circumstances. It also very good to know your tools and how to get the most of it, where camera/sensor tests can sometimes be helpful.

I agree. A tool certainly can't make an artistic decision for you, but it can certainly make your life easier and help to produce a better final result. If they didn't we'd all be either using our phones or cameras made out of lego.

Without going into a lot of detail, I recently made a career change that requires that I do some photography for clients. It's made me very appreciative of my 5DIII as a tool. I am frequently taking pictures in situations where the light is poor and the need to be unobtrusive is extremely important.

My clients don't care about art. They want usable pictures. This is a case where the tool makes all the difference in the world. The silent shutter feature and the high ISO performance of the 5DIII are totally dependent on the tool.

His second point (software plugins/Photoshop) completely contradicts his other comments.

Sure, everything I do with Silver Efex I can do without it, but it's faster and simpler. And, most everything I do in Photoshop I could do in Lightroom, but I prefer the Photoshop interface and I know the tools much better in Photoshop.

If it's the results that matter and not the camera you use, then why should it matter what software you use? Isn't it the results that matter there too?

The entire column could have been summed up in a few sentences: It's the vision and the execution that matter. If you don't have that vision and don't know how to execute it, all the technology in the world won't make you a great photographer. If you have the vision and know how to execute it, you can create great images with almost any tools.

Camera straps are like camera bags – people have strong opinions about them, what you prefer can be highly personalized and I have yet to find the perfect solution for either.

I tried a Black Rapid for awhile and it wasn't for me. I found the dangling camera thing just too precarious for my taste, too prone to being whacked up against things and I didn't see any real advantage in terms of speed and usability. I know others swear by them, but I ended up holding the camera in my hand 90% of the time and constantly checking the tripod attachment point to make sure it wasn't coming loose. It made me wonder why I was even using the strap if that was the case.

I got a "free" Canon-branded Op/Tech USA strap with my Canon Professional Services membership and started using that for a couple of years. Comfortable and I like the quick release snaps which seem very secure (I've never had a problem with them). One reason I like the system is that it makes it much easier to loop the neck strap through a small backpack, so the backpack, rather than your neck, is carrying the weight of the camera on a hike.

Still, I found that for me, most of the time I just pull the camera out of the back, and carry it in my hand, so I started looking for a good wrist strap.

I'm now using the Op/Tech USA wrist strap http://www.adorama.com/OTEZG.html. It's large enough to accommodate the 5D with battery grip installed and best of all, it can attach directly to the strap mounting pin/bar on the battery grip, rather than to the tripod socket. I had too many close calls with the Black Rapid to trust the tripod socket as a strap attachment, so this seems more secure and easier to handle for me.

Another advantage of the Op/Tech design is that I can attach a small loop attachment to the strap mounting bar on the left side of the camera body and then using some of the Op/Tech adapters, quickly switch from wrist strap to neck strap if I want.

As I said, it's all about personal preferences, but this is what I currently am using.

*Sigh I guess it's all about perception nowadays eh.  The internet is such a cruel world as they say.

And you are doing your part to make it more cruel.

I don't intend to hurt their business, I'm just here to share a story that's common in the community and which I hope to prevent such instances like this.

And how does your posting accomplish that?

Anyways lets focus on the video!

Yes. Lets.

While the video is about 25 minutes too long, I agree with Private -- I'd rather watch that than look at the pictures (Partly because I get so tired of wedding photographers posing the wedding party in fake "gangsta" poses that are supposed to appear funny, but really just make the subjects look obnoxious).

I've been experimenting with video lately, and I'd have to say, the production quality on this one was quite good. (If it were edited down to about five minutes, it would be excellent). So, focusing on the video, I'd have to say I was pretty impressed.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III Replacement Talk [CR2]
« on: January 09, 2015, 06:19:58 PM »
This rumor fits almost exactly what I've been predicting: A 5D high definition camera (I thought it might actually be called 5D HD, but if the rumor is correct, Canon seems to prefer 5Ds) and a general purpose 5DIV that will be a more true successor to the 5DIII.

Good news for those of us who would rather see other improvements before increased megapixels.

My wish list:

Some variation of 7DII/1DX autofocus;
Touch Screen with a sensible user interface;
Basic on-screen photo editing, similar to what can be found on iPads and iPhones (Ideally Lightroom or Photoshop for Canon);
Easy to use Wi-Fi to allow images to be transferred to the cloud and shared with clients quickly once a few edits have been made;
Dual-Pixel autofocus (especially for video)

In other words, let's hope they focus on bringing cameras into the 21st century in terms of usability and cloud connectivity. It's embarrassing that some guy with an iPhone can upload an image and share it with clients faster than photographers can with a $3,000 camera.

I don't need more dynamic range or more megapixels. Give me something that will actually help me make money.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III Replacement Talk [CR2]
« on: January 09, 2015, 06:08:34 PM »
There seems to be an expectation or underlying current of knowing that Canon will deliver a DSLR that has a "more" of something this year however it remains to be seen if that "more" translates into a good enough IQ increase that it will distract people from Sony.

Some people posting on Internet forums do certainly seem 'distracted by Sony'.  However, that sort of thing doesn't seem to be having a big impact on people actually buying cameras.  Which group do you think matters to Canon?   ::)

Neuro, I continue to applaud your valiant efforts to inject reason and rationality into the debate. Unfortunately, many of those posting on this site are of the philosophy best summarized as "don't try to confuse me with the facts."

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 5D Mark III Replacement Talk [CR2]
« on: January 09, 2015, 06:04:59 PM »
It very much remains to be seen whether Canon and Nikon can leverage their installed base and very extensive DSLR lens lineups in the transition to MILCs.

Given the global market penetrance of MILCs (or rather, the lack thereof), the first question is not whether they can, but whether they should… 

Lots of people like to talk and write the about death of dSLRs due to the rise of MILCs.  However, that rise is certainly not taking place with a slope consistent killing dSLRs, and it's important to keep in mind the same people saying these things now predicted that demise of the dSLR was to have occurred by ~5 years ago.

I repeat (for about the 100th time) no one knows if MILCs are a leading-edge or trailing-edge product. Too many people assume that just because they have been popular in some Asian markets, that means that they are the wave of the future. But, that is not necessarily the case.

It is equally likely that in the Chinese market at least (which is the market that probably counts the most), the early adoption of MILCs is simply a predecessor to the eventual adoption of DSLRs. Once Chinese customers become familiar with the relative benefits of DSLRs vs. MILCs, they may make the same decision that most customers in Europe and the Americas have made: the traditional DSLR is far more flexible and better suited for many enthusiasts.

Canon General / Re: Weak Yen Spurs Canon To Bring Production Home
« on: January 09, 2015, 05:53:15 PM »
The weaker Yen is probably the prices of new 7Dii/16-35/100-400 lenses have been lower than expected.  I hope the next wave of new FF cameras follow this trend.

I don't think it is that simple.

EOS Bodies / Re: Wait for it ... Revolutionary or Evolutionary in 2015
« on: January 06, 2015, 12:01:29 PM »
It's actually pretty difficult imagining something brand new that will forever change photography

Not so: http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=23788.0

Yes! Someone else gets it.

(Although I must say I liked the furry, friendly avatar a lot better than the stern new one.)

Edit: I see he's back. Welcome home!!!

Edit II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsupilami

EOS Bodies / Re: Speculate: How much noise improvement from 5D3 to 5D4?
« on: January 05, 2015, 11:45:12 PM »
Okay. First of all. Sensor technology has advanced to the point where future improvements will be incremental at best. And that is across all brands, despite what the Sony fan-boys would have you believe.

That said, the 7DII sensor is, by all accounts, quite a significant improvement over the 7D sensor and even a slight improvement over the 70D.

If you think the improvements of the 7DII were insignificant, then you will likely view the improvements of the 5DIV in the same light. If you appreciate that Canon did improve upon the sensor for the 7DII, then you'll likely appreciate any improvements that materialize with the 5DIV.

The same people who whine on this forum about Canon sensor tech will continue to whine, regardless of what improvements may occur.

Now, as someone who uses the 5DIII in frequent low-light situations, I am completely blown away by the capabilities of the Canon sensor. Results matter, and the results I get leave me very impressed and pleased with the performance of the 5DIII. We are playing in the margins and it is nearly impossible to see significant low-light improvements. For my purposes, the Canon 5DIII is the best available camera for all-around use, reaching a reasonable compromise between resolution, dynamic range and ISO sensitivity.

I am one of those who has no desire for high megapixels or extreme dynamic range and I believe Canon will continue to focus the 5D series on this all-around capability, making marginal improvements across the board.

Finally, it would be a real surprise to see a 5DIV in the first half of 2015. As Maeda Masaya alluded to in his interview, product development cycles are getting longer as the technology matures. It would not be at all surprising to see a 5DIV unveiled at the 2016 Photokina.

EOS Bodies / Re: Wait for it ... Revolutionary or Evolutionary in 2015
« on: January 05, 2015, 04:20:14 PM »
2015 will likely bring mirrorless cameras with APS-C and FF sensors that finally surpass DSLRs in every single aspect of imaginge capture and imaging. It will be a revolutionary move in the history of photography.

Seriously? You actually think a mirrorless camera is revolutionary?

Or would you still complain about the depth of the body being too fat ? ( I can sympathise with anyone finding some bodies to hold as too fat but not necessarily cameras).

Best comment in a long time.

I can understand those that like the shooting experience without a mirror, it's a very subtle 'snick' compared with the dslr's 'thwack', but it's not something that I can really get excited about. As for mirror vibration damaging the IQ ( which only happens at very specific shutter speeds anyway - about 1/15 th ) - just use live view or mirror lock up on a dslr.

If its the noise that's bothersome, just switch to silent shooting. I've been in high-level meetings where the clients did not want me to disturb the discussion, but needed to have pictures taken. Silent shooting saves the day.

I can't help feeling those those who really resent mirrors so much don't like what they see when they look in one .....

Maybe they don't have a reflection.

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Yongnuo 35mm f/2 Canon Clone on the Way
« on: January 05, 2015, 02:20:05 PM »
The big question will be pricing. The Yongnuo 50 f1/8 isn't much cheaper than the Canon. Unless there is a significant price differential (as in less expensive than the used market), I wonder how much demand there will be for these lenses.

Now, to really get the internet juices flowing: how about a Yongnuo APS-H camera body with a Canon mount?

EOS Bodies / Re: Wait for it ... Revolutionary or Evolutionary in 2015
« on: January 04, 2015, 04:39:17 PM »

revolutionary is a very rare event.... last time it occurred in digital photography was the invention of the digital sensor....

Absolutely!!  The techno junkies can't stand it - or perhaps understand it - but even the cheapest and simplest DSLRS already produce excellent results.  It's all evolutionary from here....

Yes. All technologies mature and as they do, the changes become evolutionary until a new technology changes everything. The only technology on the horizon that has the potential to be revolutionary (as in completely up-ending the marketplace) is light-field technology, which is still immature.

I'm fine with evolutionary. It's less costly for the consumer and, as Dak723 says, even the cheapest DSLRs are excellent – far superior to anything that was available during the first 150-plus years of photography.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms Development of High Megapixel Camera
« on: January 01, 2015, 10:20:19 AM »
The fact that Canon acknowledges they missed a market segment and were not able to predict their DSLR sales at all in 2014 underlines that Canon currently has a difficult time understanding the current market conditions.

Please provide a citation for Maeda Masaya (or another Canon executive) who said they missed a market segment and were not able to predict their DSLR sales "at all" in 2014.

That was not in the interview referenced by this thread, but perhaps you have some additional information you care to share with the rest of the community.

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