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Forum rule #2: Everybody has an opinion; very few people embrace contradictions to that opinion. Some (about 1%)of the opinions are broad based and will apply to all users. Very few posters have a broad technical understanding of photography, and they don't really need to. Relying on what you "feel" from looking at your photography has proven to not be very accurate in determining photography physics, it does, however, make a good basis for your personal purchases. Your best personal purchases are rarely the best purchase for another user.

You are being too logical.

Now I'm really confused. Last week there were countless threads about 1DsIII vs 5D mkIII, now people are saying the 1DsII is the ultimate camera for shooting buildings and cropping 100% for the web???

I really don't know what to buy now, I was gonna go with 2 1DX's because I hate the ugly-turny-knobby-dial™ on top of the disgusting-overpriced-toy™ of a camera (5DmkIII), and I  figured I'd get 2 cause I have 2 hands...

Perhaps I'll just switch to the Dark Side™ and get a D3200. DxO must love those cause they are paid by Sony-Sensored-Nikon™

Careful. You are going to get yourself banned and the thread erased.

Lighting / Re: An open letter to Canon regarding the Canon RT system
« on: February 05, 2013, 08:02:40 PM »
A good point for a pressing open letter would be to ask Canon how they can consider the 600rt flashes a *system* with just two parts receivers for legacy speedlites or studio flashes...

I've been beat up by some on this forum for raising this in the past, but I still feel strongly about it. Canon released only half a product with its radio transmitter. Who releases a transmitter with no receiver? By doing so, Canon undercut it's loyal customers and sent them to competitors. I would have (reluctantly) paid a premium for a Canon-branded receiver to use with 580EXII and the ST-E3-RT along with the 600-RT.

Instead, they've driven me to the Yongnuo 622C (which is very good) and to the used market for future purchases of 580EXIIs. It was a shortsighted strategy on Canon's part.

Site Information / Moderators: You are Too Sensitive
« on: February 02, 2013, 10:56:37 PM »
Okay, I see the "purple-faced guy" thread has been deleted.

Honestly, once again this is an example of the moderators having much too thin of skin on this forum. Understand I appreciate the work that moderators do, but this has been an ongoing problem. Threads and comments are allowed to go on for pages and pages and then suddenly, someone decides they don't like the way it ends up, so it gets deleted.

For the record, the OP was an idiot, we all know that. He was taking some sort of perverse jollies out of playing a trolling game that only made him look like a fool. And, yes, his final post should have been deleted for his racist language (that is a legitimate reason to delete any post, although it seems to get applied arbitrarily at times).

But, we are all big boys and girls and we participate in these threads willingly. After two days of discussion, it's kind of silly and, frankly, plays right into the hand of the OP when the entire thread is deleted.

I'm sure I will get attacked for saying this, but I have been participating in this forum for years and I've found this to be annoying and counterproductive. The problem is that it can never be applied uniformly or fairly. Some frequent posters are allowed great latitude to be sarcastic and insulting at times, but others are not.

Just my opinion.

Just a quick thought regarding the 70D and 7DII.

Canon has three full frame cameras with three different full frame sensors in them. I wonder why we (myself included) think that the 7DII, 70D and top of the line rebels should share the same sensor, just because the previous generation did?

Nikon rumors is reporting that the D7000 replacement is coming before April. If true, that pretty much guarantees that the 70D will be released soon as well. If the D7000 replacement does have a 24mp sensor topping out at ISO 6400 as reported, I would expect a similar sensor from Canon (22-24 mp).

Then, I wouldn't be surprised to see a D300s and 7DII replacement show up in the summer, with the 7D having a completely different sensor. Given Canon's recent pattern with full frame, maybe a 20 mp sensor with higher ISO performance.

Canon has made themselves the king of low-light sensors. They've listened to their customers who say they will gladly trade a few less megapixels for clean high ISO performance. I think they may realize that is is a trade the 7D users would also gladly make.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms 70D; Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF
« on: February 01, 2013, 01:49:47 PM »
I was really surprised by the amount of ringside press using 7Ds at the London Olympics.

A lot of posters on CR give the impression that they think if you're a pro you can afford anything camera wise. That may be true if the photog's employers supply the equipment, but many are not in that boat.

Canon marketing research will know exactly how the land lies regarding current and near future demand for a fast, professional APS. If there's a demand they'll supply it.

Yes, this is a point that few people understand. It's been many, many years since I was a newspaper photographer, but some things have either not changed, or changed for the worse.

Most photojournalists have to supply their own equipment. Even if their employer has some equipment available, it is often just the bare minimum and not up to date. These days, there are fewer and fewer media outlets (hardly any independent papers today) sharing fewer and fewer resources. Staff photographers are among the first jobs that get cut as there are always freelancers out there willing to work for less.

Freelancers, of course, have to supply their own equipment and that often means buying the least that will do the job.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Confirms 70D; Future of Semi-Pro DSLR is FF
« on: February 01, 2013, 12:18:52 PM »
Paul (PJ1974), Honsten and Neuro,

I'm with you guys. This is a very brief and vague interview. I took the references to APS-C as meaning "our crystal ball is in the shop. We are watching the market and it may be that some day, the niche now filled by semi-pro APS-C might be replaced by full-frame, but we don't know that yet."

On the other hand, I want to rant about about the photo news media. I don't understand why industry writers have to be such sycophants. They never ask the tough questions of these executives, but instead behave like a bunch of lap dogs letting these executives sail through the interviews with softball questions.

Almost anyone who comments on this forum could have asked better questions:

The street price of the 5DIII has dropped to below $3,000 since introduction. Was your market research wrong when you originally priced the 5DIII, did you underestimate the competition, or was this a conscious strategy to maximize return on early adopters?

Canon seems to be pricing its latest lenses at stratospheric levels. What's your target market for these lenses?

Your APS-C sensor is now more than three years old. Many are questioning whether or not Canon has the engineering bench strength to compete with other manufacturers and innovate in sensor development. What's your response?

The 6D has been criticized as being under-spec'd in comparison to Nikon's D600. Are you concerned about that?

The list could go on and on, but instead, we get a tiny little interview completely dictated by the corporate messengers.

I've been one that thinks the P&S market is dying. Not ready to change that opinion, but it is noteworthy that P&S still accounts for about 80% of all cameras sold.

I would have sworn that the number had to more than 80 percent P&S....Most people I see have P&S cameras and a few people I know who had low end DSLR's have gone to superzoom P&S's, the ones that sort of look like a DSLR and have 25, 30, or more times zoom range.

Don't confuse new sales with ownership. That just means 80% of the cameras sold are P&S. The percentage of people who actually own a P&S could be greater (or less). Basically depends on the replacement rate, which I suspect for many P&S owners is pretty low.

You might as well surrender Neuro, the confirmation bias overcomes all facts and logic.

Thanks, Mt Spokane, for linking to that chart. It's a real eye-opener. I would have never expected that more SLRs would be shipped to Europe and Asia than the Americas. Two million more units to Europe is really impressive.

I'm not surprised that Asia gets a huge percentage of the non-SLR interchangeable lenses, as I have read they are very popular in China and elsewhere in Asia, but the numbers are pretty impressive: almost twice as many as the Americas.

I've been one that thinks the P&S market is dying. Not ready to change that opinion, but it is noteworthy that P&S still accounts for about 80% of all cameras sold.

something i could need help with is image backup.

i will not carry a laptop with me.
i only have a small netbook and i am not willing to do image editing during my vacation anyway. :)

If you have a netbook, I would just buy a small external USB drive. Use the netbook as a transfer device, copying the files from the camera to the external drive. (or you can use a three step process, copying the images to the netbook and then moving them from the netbook to the external drive).

There are two schools of thought on memory cards. Some people buy the biggest cards they can find, so they seldom have to change them and they are sure never to run out of space. Others recommend buying more cards with less capacity, so that if one card goes bad or gets lost, you haven't lost the entire trip's pictures. I lean toward the second category.

I thought the most interesting thing was the little chart showing the interchangeable lens camera division represents 31% of the units sold and 76% of the camera division's "value" base.

Let's keep that in perspective though, before people start jumping to conclusions. That includes the entire Rebel line, as well as the EOS-M, so it's impossible to tell from that figure anything about the impact of 5DIII, 6D or lens sales.


I'm glad someone else is focusing on the lenses. I would argue that may be more important than the body choice (but I won't because I don't want to start a whole new stream of flamers). I haven't been fortunate or financially able to go to Africa (yet!), but everything I've read has said to take at least a 400mm lens.

I understand that the OP has a real dilemma here. His wife bought him a 70-200 and he doesn't want to appear to be an ungrateful lout by leaving it at home, but I would strongly suggest he try to finesse that one. (This, by the way is why I advise everyone to admit to their spouse or significant other that they have at least one "white" lens. Once you admit to owning one, you can sneak in another couple lenses with the same white coating and most non-photographers will never notice the difference, as long as you don't ever let them see both lenses at once. :) )

I know I am repeating myself, but since it hasn't gotten much discussion I can only urge the OP, once again, to be sure and shoot RAW. Even if you aren't comfortable processing RAW today, you will eventually want to learn how to handle RAW files and you will always be able to go back and improve your original shots even 10 years from now if you've got them in RAW. If they are jpg, you will have limited yourself . Shots that you dismiss as mediocre, you may find with some RAW processing can be the best stuff you've done.

You pose a great question OP.  The fact is, its pretty easy to get caught up in this latest tech game ... and honestly, there is a bit of 'all the cool kids have ____ so therefore I need to get a ____ to be cool' in photography...

Excellent point.

I am amazed that so many posters here are trying to recommend to the OP to keep the 5D3 which is so much more expensive and way in excess of his needs. Too many users in this forum are gear heads. The gentleman stated that he couldn't tell the difference with his test shots. He knows enough about photography to understand the impact of lighting and lenses on the results. And I am sure he understand the differences with features etc. His main concern was IQ! Yet he was expecting something different - its a real eyeopener if you ask me.  We assume that everyone has the desire to pixel peep and find the most discernible difference while forgetting that photography is an art and a pastime not something to keep our wallets empty. I say to the OP to SEND BACK THE 5D3 and stick with what works for a little money and go from there. Later down the road if you want the performance or 61 focus points etc you could buy the 5DMk4 or something better. In the end i think this guy knows something that us gearheads dont!

Another excellent post.

Now my two cents worth. The gulf between film and digital is immense. Even the most inexpensive digital cameras will give far greater image quality than what most of us long time film shooters ever saw with film. The differences between the two larger digital formats (APS-C and "full frame") is much smaller and really only apparent at the margins (shooting high ISO or extremely large prints, for example)

If you shoot at ISO 400 or below, you can easily print as large as A1 with no discernible loss of image quality using an APS-C camera.

I am going to suggest a third option for you: Consider the 7D, if you like the handling of the 5DIII but are satisfied with the APS-C image quality. Both use the same sensor, but the differences are in the build quality, handling, autofocus and frame rates. The 7D is relatively inexpensive right now, in anticipation that a replacement model will be announced in the coming year. But, it remains, in my opinion, the best crop-frame camera available.

Why the 7D? Because I assume that a trip to South Africa will involve some wildlife shooting and under those conditions the autofocus and higher frame rate will help you get shots that you might not otherwise get.

In addition, I would suggest that if you return the 5DIII you look seriously at a longer telephoto lens. Again, assuming you are planning to shoot some wildlife, I think you will find the 70-200 zoom a little too short even on an APS-C body. The obvious options are the 70-300 "L" and the 100-400 "L" zooms.

The 70-300 "L" is newer, a little lighter, maybe a tiny bit sharper, easier to carry in a camera bag and the autofocus is a bit more responsive. The 100-400 "L" gets you an extra 100 mm, which is no small consideration in shooting wildlife and remains a great lens at a reasonable price.

Finally, I'd suggest you take a little time to learn RAW processing. I see no reason to shoot RAW + jpg, unless you need to immediately upload or print your images from the field. Even if you shoot in RAW and do nothing more than open the files and save it in Photoshop as a jpg, you will still have the RAW files later to work with.

Going from a film camera to a digital camera is amazing, but be prepared for something even amazing-er when going from processing and printing film-based images to processing and printing digital images using RAW. It simply offers options that could never be achieved with film – adjusting the color temperature of the image, tweaking the exposure over an almost infinite number of gradations, adjusting whites, shadows, blacks, contrast, highlights, etc. all independently. Creating smart objects that allow you to tweak one part of the image in one way, another part in a completely different way and a third, fourth, fifth, sixth part if  you choose and then merge the various pieces in Photoshop. All with the ability to return to your original exposure at any time if the need arises.

Mine is self-explanatory: Unfocused – Pictures Sharp, Life Not so Much.

I'd probably be a lot more successful if I were more focused, but it isn't going to happen.

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