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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 500 & 600 f/4L IS II Availability
« on: May 08, 2012, 11:44:07 PM »
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Seriously?  You take your time out of your life explaining the meaning of the word "the" in "The Ukraine"?  You must live a lonely life.

When it symbolizes the systematic massacre of about 7 million people, the subjugation of a nation for most of the 20th Century, and policies that led to the worst environmental disaster in history (Chernobyl) yes, I do take time out of my life to explain the meaning of the word "the." Perhaps you think Jews are too sensitive about that Holocaust thing too?

And, no, I'm not lonely at all. I just happen to have Ukrainian friends and I have seen first-hand the devastation that Soviet policies had on the nation and its people.

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If "The Ukraine" was some area during the time of the USSR then they should have chosen a new name, at least for English speakers, when the country separated. It makes Ukraine sound like plane or plain and both of those are words with which you use "the."

I am embarrassed for you. Sure, after gaining independence following centuries of struggle against foreign domination they should have renamed their country so it wouldn't confuse English speakers. After all, the world revolves around us, right? Oh, and perhaps we should tell other countries they ought to change their name too – The Uganda, The Spain, The Mexico, The Ecuador, The Italy...

I said I wasn't going to beat this horse any more, but some of these comments are too ignorant.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 500 & 600 f/4L IS II Availability
« on: May 08, 2012, 11:21:40 AM »
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starting June 8, 2012 in the Ukraine and Poland

Indulge me on a pet peeve: it is not "the" Ukraine. It is simply Ukraine, just like any other country.

Rather than being Soviet dogma this is more likely caused by it being correct to say 'starting June 8, 2012 in the U.K.' for the United Kingdom rather than 'starting June 8, 2012 in U.K.' .

UK => Ukraine is rather homophonic so it's an easy slip to make.

Sorry, but that's not correct. The United Kingdom is a collection of states. And that's really the point. Ukraine is separate country, not part of the Russian federation or the old Soviet Union.

No one says "The Ireland" and if they did the Irish would probably be insulted. It's a bit comparable to the way Canadians feel when people refer to only those from the United States as "Americans." Difference is that tens of thousands of Canadians didn't perish in a deliberate famine created in order to exert control over the country.

It's a common slip here in the west and most people wrongly think they are being correct by referring to Ukraine with a "the."

Just a personal goal of mine to correct this whenever I see it. It's caused by some heightened sensitivity due to having made several visits to Ukraine in the 1990s. (And having seen the damage done to the people by 70 years of socialist oppression)

As a side note, Canada has one of the largest Ukrainian diaspora populations, so it's not a bad idea for Canon Rumors Guy to be aware of this little issue.

Not going to hijack the thread. Point made.  I promise not to keep flogging this dead horse.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 500 & 600 f/4L IS II Availability
« on: May 08, 2012, 10:22:33 AM »
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starting June 8, 2012 in the Ukraine and Poland

Indulge me on a pet peeve: it is not "the" Ukraine. It is simply Ukraine, just like any other country.

"The Ukraine" is the phrase the Russian oppressors used during the Soviet era. They wanted people to believe that the once-independent nation that the Soviets had conquered was simply a region of Russia and not entitled to it's own identify. Thus the systematic suppression of the Ukrainian language and culture throughout the Soviet era.

Even today, there are many within the Russian government that would like to re-absorb Ukraine. Referring to Ukraine with the diminutive "the" is a subtle way of implying that this nation (one of the largest in Europe and with one of the oldest and richest cultures) is nothing more than a rural subsidiary of the Russian bear.

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...Outside of professional use, $3,000-plus full-frame bodies are very much niche products. If the 5DIII's feature set is perceived to be target toward pros, I suspect that Canon conducted extensive market research, and determined that pros were the largest pool of potential buyers for the 5DIII...

What! How DARE you suggest that Canon's primary goal was to sell actual cameras to genuine customers. Everyone knows they SHOULD be designing cameras to satisfy forum geeks.

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Lenses / Re: Canon Refurb Store ... Not Such A Good Deal
« on: May 07, 2012, 04:41:20 PM »
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How does one get in the Canon Loyalty program (is this aka CPS?)

Canon Loyalty is a program for any Canon customer. You send them a broken camera and they sell you a refurbished camera at a discount. Broken camera can be almost anything (including Powershots). The stock varies and some models are not available. The 5DII was available for awhile, but I don't think anymore. The 7D is available last I heard.  You cannot buy lenses through the loyalty program.

You can Google "Canon Loyalty Program" to find a variety of posts talking about the program. You have to call Canon, you cannot do the transaction over the internet.

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Lenses / Re: Canon Refurb Store ... Not Such A Good Deal
« on: May 07, 2012, 04:35:28 PM »
Like everything else, this all comes down to "Buyer/Seller Beware." You have to do your homework.

eBay seems like a great place to sell lenses, but not such a good place to buy them. :)

I'm amused at the retailers who list products on eBay for more than they are selling them on their websites. I guess they've figured out that there are a certain percentage of eBay buyers who don't bother checking prices. Like others, I have often noticed used items going for more on eBay than the refurbished store price (which comes with a warranty and the assurance that Canon has brought the product up to specs.) 

I have had the best success on eBay with accessories, especially lighting accessories and camera bags (always used, never new). I imagine that's because both are items that people buy, use for awhile and then either don't need anymore or decide they need something different.

I've bought from the refurbished store. Like anywhere else, you need to compare prices and decide what is and isn't a good deal. My main complaint with the refurb store is the randomness of their stock. Some lenses show up quickly and frequently, while others never appear. For example, I have a hard time believing that Canon never gets any 200mm f2.8 primes in for refurbishing. I mean, it's a lens that's been out for 16 years, but none ever get returned to stores? Yet, the 100mm Macro L showed up on the site less than a year after it was released. Still, it's a fun place to window shop and see what they have.

My personal philosophy is, if the margin is small, I'm willing to pay a premium for new. Second choice is refurbished. I've never bought a used lens or camera and would need a significant discount to convince me to do so. But that's just me.

The great thing is that in the internet age we can instantly compare prices and even have resources like Canonpricewatch.com to do most of the work for us.

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This is a rare thread. It started foolish and ended up serious. Just the opposite of most of the threads on this site.

I do wonder though, if someone could enlighten me about something. (BTW, I do have Jewish friends and family, but none are Orthodox and all are about as observant as I am of Christianity – which is to say, not much.) This discussion has focused on B&H, but I believe Adorama also is owned and operated by Orthodox Jews. Yet, I notice that the two stores do not always follow exactly the same schedules and policies regarding ordering on Shabbat.

Really, just more of an academic question because I like to learn things, but can anyone enlighten me on why Adorama might follow slightly different policies? Or, am I mistaken.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Idea for Canon?
« on: May 04, 2012, 11:11:25 PM »
Don't want to derail this thread, because it's actually going in a more intelligent way than about 90% of the recent threads on this forum, but I am curious, what exactly does Canon need to "bounce back" from?

Nikon D800?

And we have inside knowledge of sales figures to know how each camera is doing? And, while we're at it, how about a crystal ball to know what their total sales and net profits will be a year after the cameras have been released?

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It is like comparing a Fiat to a nice BMW when it comes to DR!

Just a piece of advice. Obscure references don't work very well as analogies. I have no idea if a Fiat is better or worse than a BMW.  Nor do I care. But then again, I don't really care whether a Canon 5DIII or a Nikon D800 scores higher on some equally obscure, arbitrary test.

FYI - Fiat own Ferrari...  ;D

Ha! Thanks. I guess that helps. I know both are better than my 2000 Ford F150. On the other hand, if there is eight inches of snow outside, my 4x4 Truck is probably going to do better than either. Which is kind of the point with cameras: test results are nice, but what makes a difference is how you use it and what you personally need.

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EOS Bodies / Re: New Extensive Firmware for the Canon EOS 7D? [CR1]
« on: May 04, 2012, 11:45:02 AM »
I'd see the introduction of new firmware as an indication that Canon may be planing a new sensor for the 7D2, and needs to hold on for dear life until that can happen.  Its also an indication (assuming true.  its CR1 so far...) that Canon is still investing in that market position (premium 1.6x prosumer).   I hope they blow socks off with 7D2, frankly, but the market window of opportunity (it seems to me) is shrinking -- 9-12 months remaining, at the max.   Except for the 1Ds3, 7D is currently as old or older than any other body in Canon's entire DSLR lineup since the begining. 

Actually I hope 7D2 is positioned as a pro-level 1.6x body

I'm also anxiously awaiting the next generation of 7DII, but just want to point out that the 7D is not as old as its competitor the Nikon D300S,  and it is still a far better camera. I also just checked and it's still in the top 20 on Amazon's list as of this a.m. (And has been in the top 100 for 970 days -- which pretty much coincides with its entire life cycle) 

So, while I'm anxious to see what the next generation brings, I'm not sure Canon will feel any competitive pressure to release a new model until Nikon makes a move as well. I'm still hoping for Photokina.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Idea for Canon?
« on: May 04, 2012, 11:30:53 AM »
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If Canon really wants to bounce back from this whole low ISO IQ and DR thing...

Don't want to derail this thread, because it's actually going in a more intelligent way than about 90% of the recent threads on this forum, but I am curious, what exactly does Canon need to "bounce back" from?

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It is like comparing a Fiat to a nice BMW when it comes to DR!

Just a piece of advice. Obscure references don't work very well as analogies. I have no idea if a Fiat is better or worse than a BMW.  Nor do I care. But then again, I don't really care whether a Canon 5DIII or a Nikon D800 scores higher on some equally obscure, arbitrary test.

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How many times and in how many threads do we have to rehash the same old craziness?

I commend Neuro and others for their patience in explaining a few facts to people.

Canon did their market research. The found that customers were generally satisfied with the 5DII except for the autofocus, weathersealing and a few other features. They also found that real customers (wedding and event photographers) would snap up a camera with improved ISO performance. They calculated what the proper price point would be to capture the largest and virtually only remaining professional market (wedding and event photographers).

The camera is here and as Canon knew from its market research, it is selling very well to their target audience.

They didn't design the camera for people who post on forums. They didn't even design it for enthusiasts like myself. They designed it for photographers who are in a very competitive business and have to have a tool that will give them an edge. I doesn't makes a dime's worth of difference what its testing geek "scores" might be and it doesn't make a difference that it might not be what you wanted. 

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 7Dmk2 any rumors??
« on: May 02, 2012, 11:14:08 PM »
I want to believe. I want to believe.

Seriously, there are a few things that lead me to believe we will see a 7DII in the next six months.

1) Canon cannot keep recycling the same 18mp sensor forever. It would be unusual for Canon to put a new sensor in a Rebel first, but even if they do that, it puts a lot of pressure on them to upgrade the 7D sensor. I can't see them leaving the same sensor in the 7D for another year if they upgrade the Rebel or the 60D Super Rebel.

2) Photokina is traditionally a consumer show. I believe Canon will want something to showcase at Photokina and a new 7DII seems a good bet.

3) The 7D may be getting a little long in the tooth, but it's still clearly their top crop camera. Not so with Nikon's D300s, which is looking even more dated these days. Competitive pressure is heavy on Nikon and I can't see Canon letting Nikon refresh the D300s without offering an upgraded 7DII.

4) Canon still has to satisfy the APS-H shooters who lost their beloved 1.3 crop. A 1.6 7DII with image quality equal to the old 1D IV is very doable and would address the concerns of sport and wildlife shooters who want more reach.

Wishful thinking? A little. But not totally divorced from reality.

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EOS Bodies / Re: LR4.1 RC to blame. Check this out!
« on: May 01, 2012, 07:18:44 PM »
Aren't you worried about getting arrested for that graffiti on the wall. :)

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