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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon wants to make everyone a filmmaker
« on: July 02, 2013, 12:55:52 PM »
DSLR and digital camera use basically the same component types. If you can merge both functionalities, then why not?
It's a tool. You can use it one way or another or both ways. You can - don't have to.
Get over it. Only thing you have to do is to make yourself useful :)

What's your point? Who are you suggesting should "get over it?" Nobody is saying Canon shouldn't include video. If you want to make yourself useful, reserve the drive-by comments for the endless and pointless discussions of Dynamic Range, Shadow Noise, etc. etc.

I'm just trying to foster an intelligent discussion about the future of technology and the future of the marketplace. If you don't want to participate, that's fine.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« on: July 02, 2013, 11:47:37 AM »
Is AFMA even necessary with the new focusing system? I'm just wondering. I got the impression that since the sensor itself is confirming the focus, adjustments might be less important.

No, AFMA isn't necessary for the Dual Pixel CMOS AF, nor is it necessary for the Hybrid CMOS AF or good ol' Live View contrast detect AF.  But remember that those AF modes which use the CMOS image sensor only operate with the mirror up - not through an optical viewfinder.  The 70D has the 19-pt AF sensor (from the 7D) that's used when looking through the VF, and that requires AFMA just the same as any other standard phase detect AF system.

That standard phase detect AF is still the go-to with fast moving subjects, and holding a heavy camera + lens out in front of you for Live View composition isn't always easy - the VF is there for a reason.

Thanks. That's about what I expected.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Announced
« on: July 02, 2013, 11:24:43 AM »
Hmm, I see that now.  Crazy how they would not put that in the list of features on the USA site.  ::)

Highlight a feature intended to correct for inconsistencies in the manufacturing process?  A feature that even the manuals for the cameras recommend you not use?   ::) ::) ::)

Is AFMA even necessary with the new focusing system? I'm just wondering. I got the impression that since the sensor itself is confirming the focus, adjustments might be less important.

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EOS Bodies / Canon wants to make everyone a filmmaker
« on: July 02, 2013, 11:12:19 AM »
I believe that when Canon first introduced video in the 5DII they were just throwing in a nice little extra feature that didn't cost them anything. I also believe they had no idea how revolutionary it would be and what a demand it would create.

It was a classic case of "disruptive technology" and to their credit Canon quickly saw the potential and has been on a drive to capitalize on that potential more than any other manufacturer.

With the 70D they've taken another giant leap forward in video capabilities for the non-professional and aspiring videographer market. In fact, the 70D seems to offer as many or more upgrades for video use as it does for stills.

Of course it is a smart move. The professional stills market is shrinking. About the only market left is weddings and even that requires videos as well as stills.

In contrast, the internet video market is the fastest growing media market today and it is becoming more professional all the time. Children born today will grow up expecting to be able to watch an endless supply of content on their personal tablets and Canon wants to be making the cameras that most of the content is filmed on.

How do you feel about this? React.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« on: July 01, 2013, 11:33:36 PM »
...My point is that the past is usually a good indicator to the future.  Canon likes to recycle its tech for generations.  Nikon, Fuji, etc., have surged ahead with their APS-C cameras...
This statement doesn't seem to have much relationship to reality.

You made a funny!  Tell me the biggest difference between the sensor in the T2i and T5i.  No relationship at all, right?

I would respond, but Neuro has already done a more than sufficient job.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:35:36 PM »
...My point is that the past is usually a good indicator to the future.  Canon likes to recycle its tech for generations.  Nikon, Fuji, etc., have surged ahead with their APS-C cameras...

This statement doesn't seem to have much relationship to reality. In which generation of XXD cameras did Canon recycle its tech? 20D to 30D I guess, but certainly not the 30D to 40D, 40D to 50D, or 50D to 60D. How about XD cameras? I can't find any 1D or 5D generation that shared the same sensor tech as the previous generation. Are you aware of one?

How exactly have Nikon, Fuji etc. "surged ahead" with their APS-C cameras? Nikon seems to be cramming more megapixels into the sensors they are using, but it comes at a price in noise at higher ISOs.  Canon's nearly four-year-old 18mp sensor still competes very well. Fuji is doing some interesting things, but again, we are talking marginal improvements rather than surging ahead.

A more accurate statement would be that after nearly four years, competitors have finally started to catch up to Canon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D a New Benchmark in ISO Performance?
« on: July 01, 2013, 01:18:30 PM »
As has been said before, the introduction of the 70D is very exciting, particularly the clues it offers to the upcoming 7D2. Remember, canon said the 7D2 will be "ground breaking", not the 70D.... So whatever happens with the 70D is not " groundbreaking"...

I'm not going to pin too much hope on the "groundbreaking." I suspect that for competitive reasons Canon elected to announce the 70D before the 7DII since Nikon has been dragging their feet on the D300S replacement. I expect the two bodies to share the same sensor.

If this new sensor offers a stop or two improvement in noise and they couple that with a 5DIII-style autofocus, dual card slots, the same or better frame rate, retain the joystick and other controls and beef up the weathersealing, it will be one heck of a camera and they'll get my money.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« on: June 30, 2013, 11:01:52 PM »
B&H photo lists the 7d for $1299 after a $200 instant savings. I know it is premature to speculate about the real-life performance and tests and cost of the 70d, but i am wondering how many might consider the 7d over the 70d if there is not much difference in price. This really belongs on a future thread, but seeing the specs listed by Canon Rumors for the 70d, is anyone willing to make wild guesses? CR1 :D

I imagine it will pretty much kill off 7DI sales. But I also expect Canon to announce the 7DII within a few months. Canon knows the 7DI (or classic, if you prefer) is pretty much at the end of its life cycle.

There are people still buying the 5DII instead of the 6D and I imagine there will be a few people out there who continue to buy the 7D because the other features are more important to them than a new sensor. But I expect that to be a small minority. Since the 60D is a better seller than the 7D (although the 7D is no slouch), I imagine Canon wants to maximize consumer sales before the Christmas holidays and the 70D will be a good way to do that.

Also, from a competitive standpoint, Canon needs to compete with the D7100, but Nikon has been very slow in releasing its D300S replacement. The current D300S has always been a very weak competitor to the 7D even when both were new. I'm sure Canon was hoping to see what Nikon released before launching the 7DII, but Nikon has been so slow to announce a replacement, one wonders if they have decided to concede the high-end crop-sensor market to Canon.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« on: June 30, 2013, 11:28:58 AM »
...A doctor of engineering I believe, added a remark on another forum that it was impossible for Canon at this stage to catch up with the competition? I know nothing about it but he researched it and came to this conclusion...

A dermatologist is an M.D., but if I need a heart bypass, I won't be going to one. Unless your "doctor of engineering" actually works in Canon's research labs, he knows nothing more than you or me.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« on: June 30, 2013, 11:24:04 AM »
Well... does anyone every really pay list price?  My 70-200mm f/2.8L IS mkii is listed at $4000 if I recall correctly.  If anyone wants to buy my used one for $3000... give me a call.  It is a 25% discount!

List price of 70-200 f2.8 IS Mk II is $2,499 http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/lenses-flashes/telephoto-zoom-lenses/ef-70-200mm-f-28l-is-ii-usm?WT.mc_id=C126149 with $300 rebate, price is $2,199. That is the also the price at B&H, Adorama and Amazon and is the mandated minimum advertised price under Canon policies. So, yes, people do pay list price.

The 25% off list that you are offering brings it down to $1,649. I'm not interested, but others may be.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List [CR3]
« on: June 29, 2013, 01:15:55 PM »
You guys will probably think I'm weird, but depending on how improved the 70D sensor turns out, I'm thinking about selling my 6D and going to two or three crop bodies. (Downgrading from FF to crop? zomg!)

I love the sensor in the 6D, but it looks like everything else about the 70D is shaping up to be better than it's bigger FF brother. Faster flash sync, better autofocus, higher fps, articulated screen, built-in flash... I can't think of anything on the 6D that is better besides the sensor (don't use GPS). Switching back to APS-C also means cheaper bodies and lenses, which means I can afford more bodies and lenses! (f/1.8 Sigma zoom anybody?)

I would trade some sensor performance for a bit of everything else. It looks like the 70D is going to offer a lot of everything else.

Nothing at all weird about that. It's just a case of what your style happens to be. Full frame is not better than APS-C, it's just different. If you don't shoot at high ISOs,  if you are more of an "F64" shooter than a wide open romantic bokeh type, if you don't routinely print larger than 2 x 3 feet, then the differences may not be worth the cost.

It is impossible to determine from a well-made print if it was shot on APS-C or full-frame. Much of the supposed "image quality" differences that full frame shooters think they see can be ascribed to confirmation bias.

Choose whatever works for your style and your budget and don't be intimidated.

Finally, remember the cardinal rule: "if you want to take more interesting pictures, stand in front of more interesting things."

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 70D Reaction
« on: June 29, 2013, 09:54:16 AM »
This goofball suckered me in with his first video. I'm not going to boost his You Tube marketing efforts by watching more of his silly rants.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« on: June 28, 2013, 01:51:54 PM »
Semi-random thoughts:

Obviously Canon was B.S.ing when they said they couldn't have both a pop up flash and wi-fi on the 6D.


I don't remember reading that.  I read that the reason was because of the larger pentaprism needed for the full frame.

I could be wrong.  Can you cite where Canon said that Wifi was the reason for no flash on the 6D?

I recall discussions to that effect at the time the 6D was released, but then again, it could just be my drug-addled child-of-the-sixties brain misremembering. Not a big deal anyway.

The point actually (and it was a small point in the entire post) was essentially the same as Neuro and Marsu: sometimes the "technical" reasons why a feature is not included turn out to be not so technical and have a lot more to do with market segmentation.

I do find it interesting that between wifi and GPS, they chose wifi. I'm indifferent to both, but I guess they had market research that showed the target audience wants to be able to instantly upload images or video to social media sites.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 70D Spec List
« on: June 27, 2013, 05:57:19 PM »
Semi-random thoughts:

Obviously Canon was B.S.ing when they said they couldn't have both a pop up flash and wi-fi on the 6D.

Interesting that they include wi-fi but apparently not GPS.

A 20.2 MP sensor with at least one full stop improved ISO performance is great news to me. Of course, it depends on what the test results show, but if it holds up, I would be very pleased with an extra stop in a 7D.

Very pleased with the LP-E6 Battery. No new battery and charger for the 7DII.

This seems to confirm what I've expected for quite some time: 6D is to 70D as the 5DIII is to the 7D II. I'll expect the 7D will have better weathersealing, better autofocus, faster frame rate and dual card slots (one of each). 

It will have AFMA – Canon decided it wasn't worth the grief not to include it, even though only a tiny fraction of users care.

I predict this will retail at introduction in the $1,200 to $1,400 range (right where the Nikon D7100 is). That leaves plenty of room for the 7DII at $1,600 to $2,100.

Glad they are putting touch-screen on this. It's the future. People might as well get used to it.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Camera RAW
« on: June 25, 2013, 11:26:31 PM »
Doesn't have to be difficult. In Adobe Camera Raw on the basic menu there is an "auto" button. Hit that and see if it improves your picture. If not, hit the default button to go back to your original shot.

Then, work your way down the various sliders, starting with exposure. Work in the order they are stacked. Make slight modifications with each one to improve the shot.  After you've gone down the list, go back to exposure or any of the other sliders in case you need to tweak them a bit.

After you've gotten comfortable with the basic menu, then you can start experimenting with the various adjustment tools and other menus, but really, about 90% of your work can be done from the basic menu.

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