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EOS-M / Re: Official: Canon EOS M3 and It's Not Coming To North America
« on: February 07, 2015, 09:29:54 PM »

With this background and usage - I was wondering what others would recommend I do.

The background/usage you describe provides the answer, doesn't it?  Your use of "invest" suggests you don't want to sell your M equipment and there's nothing else you can attach a M lens to and use with AF etc. (or attach it to period - or is there?  Maybe to M43 w/out electrical connections?); plus you seem to want to keep within the general size parameters of an M.  Given all that, your best option is likely to import an M3, provided reviews suggest that it's fixed the problems you mentioned.  (They drove me nuts and I sold mine not much more than a month after buying it - weirdly, I sold it for more than I paid for it.) 

The only alternative (aside from making yourself like what you have) is to ditch it and start over.  If size really matters the new Panasonic LX100, a fixed-zoom more-or-less Micro 4/3  may be the best option, but I suspect its image quality won't be quite as good as an M's.  Micro 4/3 MILCs can be pretty small, but as a system it's far from inexpensive.  The Sony a6000 is a very good and very cheap aps-c camera, but how compact and cheap the system you build around it ends up could vary quite a bit (its cheap kit lens is small but nowhere near as good as, say, the 22mm EOS-M).

Good luck!

EOS Bodies / Re: DPReview Interview with Chuck Westfall of Canon USA
« on: February 07, 2015, 08:35:33 PM »

   I am sure I am not the only one who started using a7R with Canon lenses having tired of waiting Canon hi-res body with up to date sensor tech. And as I mentioned in another post I was not disappointed with that combination and what’s more some canon lenses are MUCH more easier and MUCH more convenient to use on a7R body than on Canon body  as Canon does not provide anything to assist with manual focusing and Sony does that very well  (EVF and focus peaking).
  Conceptually and practically for me Sony a7R is just digital back for my Canon lenses and this combination allows me to use the best from both sides (Canon lenses tech and Sony sensor tech).  But I would be much happier  if  I could be able to use better integrated one single system like 5Ds

I bought an a7r and a7s not so much because of resolution (obviously not in the case of the a7s) and dynamic range - nice though those occasionally prove to be - but because much of the time I prefer using old manual focus lenses and sometimes need to manually focus AF lenses; and, as you say, MF is incomparably easier with mirrorless cameras; and the Sony a7 line is, for now, the only way to get mirrorless FF - plus, there's a vast array of adapters for NEX mount.  As almost all my AF lenses are Canon, it would make life simpler for me if Canon were to make a mirrorless FF camera and a suitable supply of adapters, whoever makes them, followed suit.  I hope that eventually happens - though I doubt there's sufficient similar demand to push Canon towards doing so; until then I'll stick with my current rather eclectic mix of equipment.  I would be surprised if the two new 50mp cameras aren't marvelous, but they don't really suit me - for reasons that have nothing to do with dynamic range....

EOS Bodies / Re: What will become of the 5D Mark III?
« on: February 05, 2015, 05:14:50 PM »
Also, I find that I really don't like this game of upgrade...  It ids a losing proposition.  Buy at x, sell at x-y to buy z which is also experiencing depreciation... It is a losing game... losses everywhere... It is rough.

I think my problem that I buy used like new gear all the time... So I don't lose money on my lenses... But on my bodies... It is nerve racking.

Camera bodies always depreciate, though, and the longer you wait the more they depreciate.  But how much do you lose?  I recently sold my 5DIII for c. $300 less than I paid for it, which means that for the 18 months I owned it I paid $16.66 per month.  Seems like a pretty good deal to me even though I do photography for fun and didn't get paid anything at all to use it.

EOS-M / Re: Canon EOS M3 Specifications
« on: February 05, 2015, 05:05:01 PM »

The M/M2 sold well in Japan (and has continued to sell well). canon commented it was female and consumer purchases that were buying it up or showed more interest.  Right now in Japan, the M kit is still the second most sold MILC camera body (the E-PL6 which is having a great sale on is #1)

Perhaps, but I'm not sure what that tells us, inasmuch as Sony & Olympus sold far more MILCs in Japan last year than Canon did (Panasonic was about equal); they all offer far more models than Canon, resulting in fewer sales per model. 


For whatever any of that's worth....  None of it has any bearing on whether the m3 deserves to sell well, of course (which presumably is what matters to people reading this forum).

EOS-M / Re: Canon EOS M3 Specifications
« on: February 05, 2015, 04:49:29 PM »


So I ask: who is this camera for?


Good question.  Provided it remains easy to adapt Canon EF/EF-S lenses to it, its appeal to people who already have Canon equipment and want it as a back-up or as a lightweight alternative for limited purposes seems clear enough.  What I don't get is why it would appeal someone who isn't already in the Canon camp.  It will probably cost more than many first rate mirrorless alternatives, some of which have built-in EVFs (before Christmas you could buy a new Sony a6000 for $450!), and all of which have a better array of available lenses that don't need adapters (esp. m43 for those who want as small/light as possible).

EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Mark II speculation...
« on: February 05, 2015, 03:37:18 PM »

The 6D is in many ways similar to the 5D2, but with a better sensor. Almost the same AF, resolution, speed, and one card slot. 6D is a little better overall though. However, it was the equal in sensor IQ to the 5D3.

At least in terms of noise/banding the 6D has a better sensor than the 5D3, which is largely why when I decided I didn't need both I sold my 5DIII rather than my 6D. 

I don't think the 6D needs much improving - faster shutter speed would be nice, as would more AF points covering a higher proportion of the screen (to more easily avoid focus-recompose issues) and a sensor with even better noise performance, but I'm not sure what other changes I would benefit from given how I use cameras.  What I would really like to see is something quite different: a mirrorless rival to, say, the Sony a7II.  If Canon did that I would buy one immediately, but presumably they won't. 

I'll leave speculation as to what Canon would do differently if a 6DII emerges to others, especially since so many features in cameras these days don't interest me in the least (I have zero interest in video, GPS, WiFi, sports, BIF etc.).  But it's probably safe to assume they'll change the AF in some non-trivial way.

EOS Bodies / Re: The Dawn of a New Digital Resolution
« on: February 05, 2015, 03:07:53 PM »
I find it hard to see references to new dawns without my mind's eye immediately conjuring up this:


if the IQ isn't up to Exmor standards then a lot of people are just going to yawn and reviews will be "meh."

Let me guess... "a lot of people" as in "you" :-> ? Or will Rock Kenwell write you don't need  50mp to shoot nice snaps your growing family :-p ?

I'm actually Rock Kenwell in disguise ;)

Seriously, the world wide photographic community is seemingly growing bored with Canon cameras - especially reviewers. There haven't been any real advances by Canon in quite some time (cue neuro rant about camera system.)

Funny you should both drag in Rockwell here - his favorite dslr (or so he says) is the 5DIII and his review of the 7DII might make even a Canon fan-boy blush; I don't think he has even mentioned the "inferiority" of Canon's sensors at all. 

As for "the world wide photographic community" "seeming" to "grow bored with Canon cameras", that may be true of a few enthusiasts of the sort who hang out around here, but Canon still seems to outsell everyone else.  To the extent the market in general is getting bored, it's bored with dedicated cameras, period. 

Besides, I don't really get why you care so much about how Canon fares.  If they don't provide what you want it's easy enough to switch to another brand (or, as I've done, add a couple of others) unless there's some particular Canon item you really need that has no counterpart elsewhere.

I recently sold my 5DIII to pay for a Sony a7s, which I use along side my a7r (and, much less often, my 6D).  If Canon ever makes a FF mirrorless camera that's at least as good as the a7 line I would likely buy one, but until then I doubt I'll buy another Canon body.  (Keeping the lenses, though....)

Since my wife doesn't want to give up her(was mine) RX1, I recently pickup an a7s as well. I rented it last Sep, I'm amazed with high ISO. It's great little camera with fe 35mm. attach.

Yes, it is.   If you want to have even more fun in low light and/or want to play with very shallow focus and don't mind MF and the extra weight, try it with the Mitakon 50mm .95!  (You can rent it from lensrentals if you don't want to buy one.)

EOS Bodies / Re: Images for EOS Rebel 750D & EOS 760D Appear
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:25:27 AM »
Will EF-S lenses designed for 1.6x crop sensors work with 1.5x crop sensors?  I would assume vingnetting would be a bit worse unless it's cropped in camera to 1.6?

For what it's worth, I use my Canon 10-18mm on my Sony a6000 (1.5 crop) far more often than I do on my Canon SL1 - works perfectly, even at 10mm (leaving aside the slower AF - which, for some reason, is less slow than some other adapted Canon lenses).  Vignetting seems about the same.  (I've not tried any other EF-S lenses on it, so I can't say whether they would behave differently.)

EOS Bodies / Re: Who is going to buy the new 5Ds's?
« on: February 05, 2015, 11:13:15 AM »
I was sure I am going to buy it, but now I am not so certain: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/9437515928/olympus-announces-om-d-e-m5-ii-with-40mp-high-resolution-mode

"The E-M5 II also boasts a 40MP high resolution shot mode, achieved by shifting the sensor in half-pixel steps and capturing eight images over a period of one second."

Semi-40 mpix. No thanks :)

DPreview already has a comparison of the em5II vs D810 set up:


I don't know how reliable this is, but the Hi-def RAW files from the em5II look terrible compared to the D810's (and not just because of the greater magnification); the JPEGs look much better, but still don't seem anything to get excited about.  Perhaps its benefits aren't best revealed by this particular set-up. Either way, you can only use the em5II in Hi-Def mode on a tripod, apparently (which would make sense); if so, that's a significant handicap vs D810/a7r/new Canons for anyone who doesn't want to use a tripod all the time.  Plus, even the best m43 images have more noise at any ISO than a FF dslr - will the new technology somehow take care of that? (The new Olympus looks somewhat interesting to me for other reasons - better EVF than its predecessor, much faster shutter, silent shutter mode, etc.)

Lenses / Re: New 50mm & 70-300mm Coming Soon? [CR2]
« on: February 04, 2015, 03:18:33 PM »
* 70-300: While I'm happy that my good ol' 70-300L won't be obsoleted during the next days, the lack of an "L" update is puzzling as this lens imho isn't sharp enough for the upcoming 50mp sensor.
Maybe your standards are higher than mine, or something will happen at 50mp that doesn't at 36mp, but I'm rather impressed by the images my 70-300L makes via my Sony a7r (the ergonomics of that combination are another matter, though!).

The 70-300L is a great lens at a very good combination with current sensors. However, if you pixel peep vs. primes like the 100L or premium zooms like the 70-200L, there is a difference (no, my lens isn't broken).

99% of the time this doesn't matter or show on ff, but you if you use the 70-300L on crop it's "outresolved" wide open and stepping down to f5.6 is required to get best images. That's why I'm guessing the same thing would apply to a 50mp sensor.

I realize there are other, sharper/better lenses, and I wasn't trying to suggest that the 70-300L couldn't be improved. I was merely questioning your implication (or maybe it was my erroneous inference) that the images one takes with it will look worse on a 50MP than they do on a current sensor when they don't on a 36MP sensor.  I guess we'll find out before long.   

EOS-M / Re: First Images of the Canon EOS M3
« on: February 04, 2015, 03:03:48 PM »
Why?  That thing looks hideous, and I rather doubt that someone who thought it looked good would take photos I would want to look at.

Way to judge.   ::)

I know aesthetics trump function for some.  [....]

Perhaps, but neither I nor the person you directly responded to earlier said anything about aesthetics trumping function!

I recently sold my 5DIII to pay for a Sony a7s, which I use along side my a7r (and, much less often, my 6D).  If Canon ever makes a FF mirrorless camera that's at least as good as the a7 line I would likely buy one, but until then I doubt I'll buy another Canon body.  (Keeping the lenses, though....)

Lenses / Re: Lenses to consider
« on: February 04, 2015, 02:15:56 PM »
Why?  There already is a 135L, which is even faster at f/2 and it's not that big a lens.  150 is too close to 135, and the other thing is that the 70-200 zooms are really good lenses.  The primes have better bokeh, but why come out with primes with a max aperture of f/2.8 when the 70-200L f/2.8 IS II fulfills that role so well?

If the 150 were a macro lens it would have the advantage of a shorter minimum focal distance, and presumably it would be smaller/lighter than the zoom (though the Sigma 150mm macro I rented once seemed unpleasantly heavy), so two advantages there for some.  But yes, it's hard to see the point of a 125mm of any sort given the 100mm & 135mm alternatives. 

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