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10mm would fill the frame on a crop or it would be close to circular on a full frame. 

I am wondering if it will really be a fisheye. 

You can read the patent, it says Fisheye.  This is not a rumor, just reporting on a patent.  There is a diagram straight out of the patent in the article, it also says Fisheye.
I've never seen the 14mm Samyang sold as a fisheye.  It merely distorts the image horribly.
Tokina has a history of decent wide angle lenses sold for a low price.  I have a old 17mm f.3,5 and its very good.

I can't read japanese so I will have to take your word that it says Fisheye and not another ambiguous word that the Google translator displayed as fisheye as a mistake. 

here is one link for the 14mm f2.8 fisheye that is not a fisheye

I completely agree about the Tokina,  I have the 10-17 and it is great!

10mm would fill the frame on a crop or it would be close to circular on a full frame. 

I am wondering if it will really be a fisheye.  A 10mm fisheye is fun but a 50mm length with fish distortion would just look off.   Also I do not see that much of a market for it.  a 10mm to 50mm UWA to standard zoom would be a cool combination for crop users. 

When you look online for the Samyang (or the other brands it is sold as) 14mm f2.8 many are listed as a fisheye when we all know it is not a fisheye lens. 

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: September 26, 2014, 11:05:01 PM »
Better selection of glass
better ergonomics
better features such as FPS, AF, buffer, etc
my experiences with canon's customer service and repair has been better than the time I tried with a Nikon

Now that I think ab out it, really the only thing that the competition has over cannon is the newer Sony sensors seem to have better DR and more resolution.  And the fact that other brands are actually supporting their mirrorless lines.

EOS Bodies / Re: Sample Images From the EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 19, 2014, 11:33:58 AM »
To my eyes the 7d2 at ISO 3200 looks better than my 7d at ISO 800.

I do not believe it is just noise reduction because the 7d2 shot is sharper as well. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Specifications Confirmed
« on: September 11, 2014, 11:46:00 AM »
I am 100% happy with the specs for the rumored price as long as they improved the High AND Low ISO sensor noise over the 7D. I am not expecting FF noise but my 40D and 50D had cleaner shadows at ISO 100.

It would be too cool if this camera can take pictures in IR but I am guessing the mention of IR is for either meetering or AF  in difficult situations like a night time football game where they are running the ball into and out of the lights. 

Does the SD card slot support the latest fast cards?  I remember the 5D3 did not support them and I ended up abandoning the use of dual cards because the SD could not keep up while shooting raw. 

EOS Bodies / Re: A Rundown of Canon at Photokina
« on: September 05, 2014, 04:19:08 PM »
We should enjoy the cameras we have, look forward to updating features we need or want, and be polite to fellow readers and commenters.

ok now, that is crazy talk!   ;D

I would be 100% happy with the posted specs if they can clean up the Mid ISO noise.  My copy of the 7D is ok at ISO 400, turns pretty bad at 800 and totally un-usable at 1600 on up.  If they can make a clean ISO 800 and a usable 1600 I would be very happy. 

I know that tollerance of noise is different person to person so to compare I guess I can say that I feel that the noise on the 5D3 is clean at 3200 usable at 6400 and too much for my taste above that. 

All this being said if the sensor's noise does not improve I do not see any use for a 24mm f2.8 for crop-only cameras.  For indoor photos f2.8 is not fast enough to go without a flash unless you are at 1600-3200 and if you are going to put a flash on the camera all of the size advantage is gone.  you may as well stick with the kit 18-55.

EOS-M / Re: Finally a 50mm for EOS-M...
« on: August 20, 2014, 12:34:36 PM »
yeah I am not at all interested.  for what the samyang plastic lens will cost you can find a good FL or FS 55mm f1.2

EOS Bodies / Re: Patent: Canon 5 Layer UV, IR, RGB Sensor
« on: June 27, 2014, 11:15:38 AM »
I wonder if this could eliminate the need for IR conerted cameras?  Maybe with this sensor you could only record the light from one of the layers.   
I know this is a small market and not at all likely the original point of the sensor but it could potentially be a happy side effect. 

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 7D Mark II Speculation [CR1]
« on: June 18, 2014, 11:51:32 AM »
Though I am not holding my breath it would be great if the specs listed are all true.  I just hope the pro thing does not mean integrated grip.

Lenses / Re: EF-M 55-200 4.5-6.3 IS STM Coming Shortly
« on: June 16, 2014, 06:16:08 PM »
not interested in this lens but at least it seems thata canon does not think the M line is completely dead.  If a dual pixel M body comes out I hope I do not have to purchase it grey market.

EOS Bodies / Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« on: June 16, 2014, 12:13:37 PM »
I find it hard to believe that everyone there is a professional.  No hobbyist shooters, schmucks with iPhones, Canon SX50's?  Who was the guy that took the shot at the last Olympics of all the photographers pointed toward the sports action?  We need a shot from "THAT GUY"!

Just Say'in..

Yes, you are right.  Also with the 1000's of people in those stands I am sure there a few of "us" that are interested in the 7d2.  Personally if I were there I would make an attempt to get as close as I could to the photogs to see what I could see. 

EOS Bodies / Re: More EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]
« on: June 16, 2014, 11:21:50 AM »
With all the long lens cameras covering the World Cup, I find it hard to believe there isn't even an incidental shot of the 7D Mk.II - that is if it's even there?

It is not hard to believe.  With thousands of dollars on the line for that perfect shot I am sure the photographers are all aiming on the field.  If it is there it either looks like a 1dx without the 1dx written on it or it looks like a 5d/ 7d without 5d/ 7d written on it so it would be hard to notice unless you are looking for it.   Maybe once one of the photog's comes home and happens to look through the pictures that will not make them money there would be the possibility that they accidently got a good shot of a camera they do not recognize. 

EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 04:41:13 PM »
HEY.. its june 12th tomorrow.. first official day of WORLD CUP... do you think we are going to see any pictures or mini reviews/ first impressions this week of the 7d2?

I an sure everyone who got their hands on a 7d2 signed some legal documents to not disclose anything.

EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 04:40:08 PM »
Personally, I'm kind of excited for it the step up to a pro body...although I am finding all of the "Waaaaaa, it won't look like my pre existing APS-C body!"  comments highly amusing! Particularly the ones that say it will be a deal breaker, no matter how good it is, if it doesn't have the body format they expect and want.   8)

I think Canon wants to differentiate this from the existing APS-C bodies in a variety of ways, given that it is going to be more expensive in than any other APS-C body ever.  I suspect it will be a different kind of animal than we've ever seen from any APS-C camera, in terms of AF, Speed and buffer (although I suspect it will only be a moderate improvement in IQ over the 70D, but time will tell).  I think Canon is seeing if they can redefine what an APS-C camera CAN be--and I'm very excited to see how that pans out!

That's my thoughts anyway.  :D

It is a deal breaker, because when I am slogging through the bush with a camera strapped to my back, having a massive body is a decided detriment. Big bodies are for studio use primarily, where size doesn't matter. And if you are in a studio you don't need a crop sensor. If you are out and about, where mobility is important, a large camera body is a problem.

I'm not trying to troll... but have you tried to slog through the bush before with a 1D style body?  That extra inch or inch and a half sticking off the camera, in my opinion, don't make a big difference. 

Also I don't think an integrated vertical grip is just for studio.  It's such a great feature when mounted to a lens with a lens collar that attaches straight to a gimbal or ballhead. It make rotating to portrait very quick and easy to take a photo.

I do not take this as trolling at all, it is just your opinion which is more than welcome here.

Personally I have used a 1D4 and 1DX and I do not like the size nor the weight.   I say the same about the rebels for the opposite reason (too small and plastic).  I love the metal frame and build of the 50D, 7D and 5D line.   But I am also in the camp where I never use a battery grip either.  I feel the weight and size are not a worthy price to pay just to change the battery half as often.  I have used ungripped bodies for so long that I do not even notice my hand on top of the camera when in portrait mode so I don't think the extra buttons would be an advantage for me. 

EOS Bodies / Re: A Few EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: June 11, 2014, 12:30:03 PM »
seems strange to me to drop the mode dial for weather resistance.  The 1d series has a dial right behind each of the 2 shutter buttons and another on the back.  If they can seal those 3 dials how is the 4th so much harder.  My guess is the designer of the pro bodies was put in charge of the 7d2 development and went with what he is used to using which is not a bad thing since this may mean that it will be getting true pro ruggedability.   Please keep the joystick on the back though, I really prefer using those.

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