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Wow, CR really disappoints with this post. For one thing, the data are from sales in Japan only. But the real story here is the mirrorless category, which is taking almost HALF of all interchangeable lens sales according to the report.

Yes, this is what I wanted to point out indirectly above. :)

In the worldwide market, I suspect Nikon managed to grab some market shares from Canon in 2012. How much? We'll have to wait for the details.

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Let's not get too excited about all the numbers. It's only for the Japanese market. We'll have to wait a while for the world wide market shares to come in.

Anyway, here are further details about the Japanese market shares.

MILC:
#1 Olympus: 29.8% (36.6% in 2011)
#2 Panasonic 23.6% (29.3% in 2011)
#3 Sony 20.0% (27.3% in 2011)
#4 Nikon 14.3%
#5 Pentax 9.4%
#6 Canon 2.1%

Looks like the top 3 in 2011 ceded market shares to Nikon and Pentax in 2012. Nikon J1 was wildy successful in the first half of 2012 due to heavy discounting. If Canon had decent AF performance, more lens choices and more camera choices with their MILC offerings, they would have done better.

DSLR:
#1 Canon 52.9% (46.3% in 2011)
#2 Nikon 34.8% (39.2% in 2011)
#3 Sony ?
#4 Pentax ? (7.5% in 2011)

Looks like Nikon's hard promotion and heavy discounting efforts for their DSLRs did not gain them very much in 2012 within Japan. As a matter of fact, they lost even more DSLR market shares to Canon in 2012 than 2011. Canon's 5D2 and 5D3 accounted for 3.9% market shares while Nikon's D800 and D600 merely earned 2.3%.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon T4i or wait for T5i?
« on: December 27, 2012, 09:19:32 PM »
Just wait for the T5i's announcement if you do not need it urgently. If it's a brand new 24 MP sensor (hopefully featuring the new 0.18 fabrication process), then the imaging sensor alone is worth the wait. If it's the same old same old 18 MP sensor, then the price of T4i will have fallen further by then.

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Canon should take aim at the RX100. Extremely compact. Fast AF like the G15. And they'll have a winner.

Merely replacing the lens in the G1X isn't going to do much for sales.

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Lenses / Re: Announcement on January 8, 2013? New Lenses [CR1]
« on: December 24, 2012, 12:31:45 AM »
Would you prefer a 17-40 f/4 IS or a 14-24 f/2.8?

I suspect both will be released, just a matter of time. Personally, I am only interested in the f/4 IS version because it will have front threading and will also be lighter.

Many however find the 14-24 more appealing because of the focal length range.

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Lenses / Re: EF 24-70 f/2.8L IS Exists as a Working Prototype [CR2]
« on: December 19, 2012, 09:01:44 PM »
It would seem that Image-Stabilization may soon be considered the de facto standard on all of Canon's zoom lenses (plus some primes too). I wonder if this is because they feel they've gone as far as they can in terms of ISO performance?

Because Canon is addressing the complaints of those folks who want every lens stabilized. This crowd loves the in-body IS.

Previously, Canon tried to please the crowd who wanted the megapixel race to end. Look where it got them...

I don't think the general crowd knows what they really need.

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Pricewatch Deals / Re: Canon EOS 5D Mark II Body $1599 at B&H Photo
« on: December 18, 2012, 04:49:57 AM »
Smart Canon response to Nikon's D600/D800 deals. :D

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D3 vs 6D AF in low light
« on: December 18, 2012, 04:46:33 AM »
http://www.reikan.co.uk/focalweb/index.php/2012/12/af-consistency-comparison-nikon-canon-phase-detect-contrast-detect/



Thanks for the link. Quite a revelation. I hated the 7D single shot AF for its poor accuracy, but never expected its contrast AF to be so poor as well.

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EOS Bodies / What happened to article on Canon's patent
« on: December 18, 2012, 04:38:48 AM »
Some time ago, CR published a small snippet on Canon's patent for a small OVF with 100% coverage.

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/11/canon-patent-reveals-a-smaller-optical-viewfinder-with-100-coverage/

The CR report has since then been removed. What happened here? Canon threatened legal action? :)

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Thought more about it. Instead of FF mirrorless, it may well be a fixed lens camera, like the RX1. If it's a fixed lens camera, AF speed should not be an issue. So, we may see a battle between Sony 35 mm f/2 FF compact and Canon 50 mm f/2 FF compact.

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Full frame mirrorless? Wow, wow, wow!!! That will simply DESTROY all competition

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« on: December 14, 2012, 02:14:15 AM »
Right, because Canon products are immune from poor QC, if that were entirely true then the wait + final cost wouldn't matter so much


Sure, they have poor 'QC' issues in the past. The truth is a number of those problems are mostly due to poor design, e.g., portrait issue of 70-300 f/4-5.6 IS, 1D3 AF problems, light leak in 5D3. But most importantly, they are officially acknowledged and rectified. Some companies don't even acknowledge their problems... like this article dated 6-Dec-2012: http://bythom.com/.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« on: December 13, 2012, 11:19:40 PM »
Typical of canon to feed rumors and leak announcements a year in advance, and control discontent among the brand loyalists, announce as late as they can in the next year, and deliver the actual product even later still like in 2014. Seen this play before. *yawn*


Either the above or get the product out of the door asap with poor factory QC like some companies. Pick your poison.

BTW, the 14-24 f/2.8L patent was confirmed in 2009, filed in 2007 within Japan and 2008 within USA. See this. So, if what you say is true, then Canon must have been fueling rumors and anticipation several years prior to actual product release. :D

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 14-24 f/2.8L in Late 2013 [CR2]
« on: December 13, 2012, 09:36:33 PM »
Finally

Edit: Remember there was some mention of patent exchange between Nikon and Canon this year. Perhaps Canon gave them the formula for 70-200 f/4 while they provided Canon something for 14-24 f/2.8. :) This is the last lens needed to complete the f/2.8 zoom trinity.

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF 50 f/1.4 IS in 2013 [CR2]
« on: December 12, 2012, 08:52:04 PM »
As was stated before (but I shall echo)...
  • This lens should have been expected by all of us.  All the non-L primes seem to be getting modern updates with better build quality, internal focusing, USM and IS.
  • Such a refresh will have IQ that rivals current equivalently stopped down L glass of that length.
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I will add ring-USM, not just any USM (which may include micromotor USM).

Another point to add to the above list: the new lenses are almost guaranteed to be smaller and lighter than the older equivalents. Canon may even trade-off aperture size just to have them lighter and smaller.

All in all, a brilliant strategy! It's what I've always wanted!

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