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EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 22, 2014, 02:00:22 AM »
I have personally compared the EOS-M and the sony a6000 side by side since and overall i still prefer the EOS-M about the only aspect I saw the a6000 better the EOS-M was iso 100 shadow recovery, high iso was a wash, AF was not much different the a6000 seems to lock nice and quick but most shots were out of focus and i find with the right lens the EOS-M performs pretty well in servo mode. certainly better than the a6000 did anyway as far as sharp keepers go.

Thanks for this highly important info.

I find it highly disturbing the A6000 AF is this poor. I actually have similar encounter with the OMD EM-5 but dare not bring it up 'cos folks will think I am crazy. ;D I attributed it to the slow EVF response when the subject moved.

Good to know the grass isn't necessarily greener on the other side.  ;D

I am still waiting for EOS-M3 with DPAF and EVF. Guess M3 with 22 f/2 lens will be better than the best compact camera (incl. G7X, LX100 and RX100M3) out there.

EOS Bodies / Re: A New EOS Pro Body With 46mp Next Month? [CR1]
« on: September 21, 2014, 02:10:35 AM »
Does this mean Canon might be using a Sony sensor in this new rumored camera?


EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 20, 2014, 11:53:16 PM »
But I bet they will slowly, quietly continue to improve their products to reduce and eliminate FPN and they will not publicly state anything about that, or DR, in order to keep that shameful little fact from becoming a mainstream topic to the general camera buying consumer.  Ignorance and non-disclosure is good for profits and marketshare.  They'll just sweep that under the carpet and move on to the next era of products.  Speaking of which, looks like they might be thinking a bit more seriously about mirrorless...


Actually, the D7000 was also not released with a lot of fanfare wrt its sensor DR even though it was the first mainstream camera to achieve greater than 13 stops of DR at base ISO according to DXOMark measurements.

As for EOS-M, the writing is already on the wall:
a) http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/interchangeable-lens-market.html

"It appears they’ve raised their 2015 interchangeable lens camera sales forecast (i.e. are not predicting another decline for next year, but rather significant unit volume growth). Given what I know of the market the only thing I could see driving the kind of growth they seem to now be predicting is another new interchangeable lens camera of significance."

b) http://www.cnet.com/news/canon-reveals-details-for-future-telephoto-lens-line/

"The newest range of Canon lenses is the EF-M series for the company's new "mirrorless" cameras, a line that's more compact than traditional SLRs. Canon only has a handful of EF-M lenses, but during a press conference here, the company committed to adding more."

c) https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdc.watch.impress.co.jp%2Fdocs%2Fnews%2Finterview%2F20140918_667456.html&edit-text=&act=url

"Yes. EF-M also EF also with respect to compactness, in the format of each, I will continue to efforts to the fullest."

EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 20, 2014, 08:14:58 PM »
I think it is just as simplistic to look at past market performance where market shares fluctuated, and assume there weren't very specific reasons for why those market shares fluctuated. What happened in 2006, 2007, 2008, that caused changes in Canon, Nikon, and Sony market share? ...

Today, instead of a 15% differential in market share between Canon and Nikon, according to Hogan's report, there is about a 5% differential...

My opinion is, Canon is severely lagging behind in the one piece of technology that the photographer themselves cannot control to improve IQ: The sensor.

Too many factors affect market shares: chain distribution, advertising, company confidence etc.

Sony switched from CCD to CMOS with much improvement in high ISO quality in 2007-2008. First products Nikon D3/D300, announced on 23-Aug-2007, available in 2008.

This means in 2007 when Nikon had 40% of DSLR market shares as compared to 42% for Canon, they were just selling camera models with Sony CCD sensors.

On the other hand, the Canon 1D Mark 3 fiasco peaked in 2007-2008 (camera announced on 22-Feb-2007, available many months later).

Later, Sony started deploying EXMOR technology. First product Nikon D7000, announced 15-Sep-2010, available some months later.

However, in 2012, Nikon released the D800 (left side misfocus) and D600 (sensor debris) with serious quality control issues which dampened consumer confidence in Nikon.

At the same time, interest in mirrorless cameras started to pick up in Asia. Canon was no longer the top choice for interchangeable cameras in many Asian countries.

The companies also had varying success in penetrating developing markets (e.g., China).

As you can tell, it's all very complex. Sensor quality is only one piece of the puzzle. :D

EOS Bodies / Re: Will Canon answer Sony's new cinema cameras
« on: September 20, 2014, 08:57:16 AM »
To OP: I think you've got it wrong.

From http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-definitely-a-new-e-mount-4k-video-camera-to-be-announced-at-photokina/:

"Sony will be taking design cues from the success of the Canon Cinema series. Will replace FS100. E-mount. 4k. Competitively priced. These will be C100 and C300 killers!!"

Looks like it's Sony that is chasing after Canon, not the other way round.  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 20, 2014, 12:16:29 AM »
In 2010, Canon had a 14.7% market share lead on Nikon. As of today, at worst, according to Hogan's data, Nikon has reduced that gap by 50% at worst, by 80% at best, and on average by 75%. Even if we take the worst case scenario, for any company to change a large market share differential by 50% is significant.

That is overly simplistic. Take a look at the worldwide DSLR market shares from 2006 to 2008:


In 2007 and 2008, Nikon nearly caught up with Canon. But Canon pulled far ahead again in 2010 and 2011.

In short, Canon and Nikon numbers fluctuate from year to year. But the Canon ~ 40% and Nikon ~ 35% numbers have been fairly stable since 2012.

EOS Bodies / Just for Jrista: 2014 Market Data
« on: September 19, 2014, 08:54:34 PM »
You asked for info regarding the latest interchangeable lens camera market. Thom Hogan has done the job for you:


"So I went back to Canon and Nikon’s recent published numbers and the CIPA shipment numbers for 2014 so far and plugged them into a spreadsheet with Sony’s claims and an assumption about Sony’s DSLR sales (which they didn’t disclose). What I came up with was a range of values that went like this:

Canon — 38 to 40%
Nikon — 33 to 35%
Sony — 12 to 14%

...But, overall, it looks to me that we’re still locked into the same basic pattern for unit volume in interchangeable lens cameras that we’ve had since the early 90’s: Canon leading, Nikon following, and Sony (originally Minolta) trailing. At the moment, there’s nothing appearing from any of the three that seems to be going to alter that any time soon."

EOS Bodies / Re: Sample Images From the EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 19, 2014, 01:29:11 PM »
By the way, I really do not see a noticeable IQ improvement in the RAW files vs the 70D.

Thanks for sharing.

EOS Bodies / Re: Chuck Westfall Talks Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 18, 2014, 10:02:27 AM »
Elsewhere, someone worked on a 7DII raw file and found rather clean shadows:


Looks good. Let's wait for more data.

EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 17, 2014, 07:24:16 PM »
That ISO 3200 looks quite usable. Even 6400 looks not that bad. I'm oficially impressed 8)

Very very impressed indeed.

EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 17, 2014, 07:20:30 PM »
Click the pictures and look at the pictures!
They are RAW transformed into jpeg without in-camera noise reduction. Hence you are able to see how much noise at each level.

What was used for the RAW conversion?

EOS Bodies / Re: High ISO Samples from the Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 17, 2014, 10:11:27 AM »
That said, I'm pretty sure that we'll see an update from Nikon that "competes" with the 7DII within 12 months (probably less.)

Thom Hogan, the Nikon expert, does not seem to think so.

"I'm reminded of those bets with the Canon and Nikon Photokina announcements. Canon has placed another bet on the pro/prosumer crop sensor (7DII), while Nikon keeps betting on a huge variety of FX cameras (D750). Who’s right?

I’d say Canon. My surveys have long shown that a pro crop sensor camera continues to be in strong demand. Meanwhile, Nikon’s FX lineup is now a somewhat confusing mess that doesn’t sort itself out so easy in the minds of potential purchasers. Nikon appears to want everyone to move from DX to FX, despite the fact that such moves will be expensive for the consumer and not necessarily give them something better."

- http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/airbus-versus-boeing.html

OMG it is so Massive!

Having seen the massive lenses produced for mirrorless cameras, I am beginning to question the whole point of trying to keep cameras small. This is particularly true when it comes to mirrorless cameras with crop sensors.

Olympus 40-150 f/2.8, Sony 70-200 f/4 OSS (for FE mount), Fujifilm 50-140 f/2.8, Samsung 50-150 f/2.8, Samsung 300 f/2.8 come to mind.

Lenses / Re: EF11-24mm F4L listed on a Japanese site
« on: September 16, 2014, 09:41:29 AM »
If this lens is real and gets released, I will agree with Canon Rumors that this year is indeed the Year of the Lens for Canon.  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: Official: Canon EOS 7D Mark II
« on: September 15, 2014, 10:19:22 AM »
Come on, where are the pitch black lens cap shots at ISO 100 and 16000?  ;D

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