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Wow, definately gives you a lot of flexibility.  I obviously have a lot to learn.  Thank you for the help.

If you really want a better dynamic range consider Nikon cameras.  Some have 3 stops more DR than your T2i.  But graduated ND filters can also be used as mentioned to work with the limitations of your camera.

Right now I want to work on technique and getting the composition right the first time.  Based on my current progress, it will be quite awhile before my camera is the limiting factor.

T2i, 17-55 f2.8 and getting 10-22.

Cokin holder, graduated ND, 3 stops, hard transition.  Do it now, believe me later.

I read about these in an article.  Help me out with some links on what to buy, I obviously don't know what that should be.

Landscape / Re: Help Me Get Better - Crashing Waves
« on: November 24, 2012, 12:51:20 AM »
Thank you for the advice all.  I just placed an order for the following and should be here early next week:
Manfrotto 055XDB Black Basic Tripod Legs
Markins Q3

I also had a chance today to take some more pictures, and based on those results (blown sky, dark beach), I also need a graduated ND filter and circular polarizer:
B+W 77mm Kaesemann Circular Polarizer with Multi-Resistant Coating
B+W 77mm Grad ND 0.6-4X (502)

So, I ended up working pretty late last night and heading home I could tell I was going to be in for a treat with the sunrise.  I took tons of photos and when I got back, what did I see?  Blownout sky and no detail in the beach rocks (I'll post a picture later once I get the time).  Now, not all was lost, and some of the pictures I seemed to even recover pretty well in Lightroom.  However, I'd rather just get the lighting right so as much detail as possible is available in the image.

I already knew I needed a good tripod and ballhead (Manfrotto 055 and Markins Q3 on order).  However, I also realized that I need is a good graduated ND filter and circular polarizer.  And so, after the $500 tripod order, and I now spend another $250 on nice filters (had cheap filter before, now I only get B+W).

Oh the lessons we learn.  I'll report back after I use the new equipment, and hopefully with some nice pictures.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: What would you do? Crop or FF
« on: November 22, 2012, 04:41:02 AM »
For family pictures, 5D2 or 6D(if you're willing to wait) might be enough.  That way, you can afford a more flexible lens (24-105 or 24-70 mark 1) and a flash with some diffuser.  I think having better lenses is the better way of doing it.  You won't be getting your nice DOF with just 40mm.  40mm for an FF is too short to get some DOF.

Note:  You can also retain your T2i or upgrade to 7D/60D and get a 50mm F1.4 or 85 F1.8 or their faster versions to get that nicer DOF than your present equipment.

I already have the 85 f1.8 and 70-200 f4.  My main concern is losing the wide end, the 40 f2.8 would fit that role.  Another advantage of going FF would be that getting the 135 f2 for portraits would actually make sense, as right now with a crop it would just be too long for what I would want.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / What would you do? Crop or FF
« on: November 22, 2012, 03:49:30 AM »
The discussion about apparent depth of field in the upcoming APS-C announcements thread got me to thinking about maybe switching over to FF.  I mostly take family pictures, so getting a nicer DoF would be welcome.  So, here's how this would go down:
1) Sell T2i with 18-135 kit lens ($600 after Amazon cut)
2) Sell 17-55 f 2.8 ($650 after Amazon cut)
3) Buy Used 5DIII (LensRentals sale) or 6D and 40mm pancake ($2300).
Total cost of coverting: $1050.

I wouldn't want to spend any more money for a zoom (24-70 or 24-105), so the pancake would have to do.

So, what you would you do?  Would it be worth $1050 and would you trade FF for the lack of a normal zoom lens?

Lenses / Re: New EF-S Lenses Are Coming [CR2]
« on: November 21, 2012, 07:28:44 PM »
Seriously?  Lighter, cheaper, and in the case of the 17-55, no FF equivalent (i.e., FF equivalent 27-88 f2.8 with IS).

Again, I chuckle. Guffaw, even.  While it's true that there's no 2x-7/8x f/2.8 IS zoom for FF, the crop factor affects DoF for the same framing and FF sensors collect more total light meaning lower noise. So, the real FF equivalent of the 17-55/2.8 is a 27-88mm f/4.5 lens, meaning the 24-105mm f/4L IS on FF is wider, longer, and faster (DoF for same framing), still has IS, and is a couple of hundred dollars cheaper when bought as a FF kit lens. The >1.3-stop lower noise more than compensates for the loss of 1-stop of aperture, in terms of shutter speed.  All you lose are the f/2.8 AF point(s).  Don't get me wrong - I loved the 17-55mm f/2.8 IS and I think it's the best general purpose zoom for APS-C, but the 24-105mm f/4L IS on FF is better spec'd and delivers better IQ than the 17-55 on APS-C.

I was thinking more about light capture, but you bring up good points about DoF and better ISO performance for FF.  Maybe my aversion to FF isn't quite justified.

Lenses / Re: New EF-S Lenses Are Coming [CR2]
« on: November 21, 2012, 06:08:46 PM »
...a new “pro” APS-C camera, currently expected to be the EOS 7D Mark II.

I'm interested in this.  I wonder what 'pro' means?  I'd love a redesigned APS-C sensor with significantly lower high ISO noise, in a 1-series style body with the 1D X's AF system.  That's what 'pro' means to me...  :)

After upgrading my glass, this is where I'd like to go next.  I just can't justify FF and a pro APS-C camera should be in 6D pricing territory, hopefully cheaper.

Lenses / Re: New EF-S Lenses Are Coming [CR2]
« on: November 21, 2012, 06:01:54 PM »
What is the advantage of EF-S glass? 

Seriously?  Lighter, cheaper, and in the case of the 17-55, no FF equivalent (i.e., FF equivalent 27-88 f2.8 with IS).

Pricewatch Deals / Buying Used Equipment on
« on: November 20, 2012, 06:39:05 PM »
Ok, so does anyone have any experience with getting used equipment from them.  I hesitate because rented stuff (e.g., cars) are usually not treated all that well, so what you usually get is some very beat up equipment that won't last as long.  I was hoping to get some feedback from the community as to whether this is an acceptable way of getting good equipment a little cheaper.


That's the current price.  The Lighting Deal will be lowered, but is not yet advertised.

I don't know what the price will be, but this item just popped up to be on sale at 9:30 AM EST.  It's a little small for my needs, but figured I would give you all a heads up.

Gitzo GT3840C Series 3 Basalt Compact Tripod

Lenses / Re: 70-200 F/4
« on: November 19, 2012, 11:53:24 PM »
I picked up the 70-200 f4 for about $450 from Canon Refurb when they had 20% off.  With that said, I live in sunny Florida and I use the lens exclusively outside, so fast shutter speeds are very common.  I love this lens and seem to get a good DoF with f4.  Could it be better if I had the 2.8?  Sure, but my wallet just didn't want to cooperate with me.

And not to throw a wrench into the mix, but you might want to consider the 135 f2 or 200 f2.8 primes.  They are both cheaper than either the f4 is or f2.8.  If you just need the reach without the need for zoom, then just get the prime and you'll have better, faster glass for less money.

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