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Camera with 3300 shutter actuation's, could have been a store demo, more likely been a loaner at an event.  Also keep in mind that Canon themselves may have run a few hundred through the camera as a test - before and after it being loaned at an event.

Refurbs are not always a hardware refurb, but sometimes a packaging refurb, and nothing more.  Or sold as refurbs - the loaner example being one case of that.

Lighting / Re: Direct Flash - How to make it useful?
« on: September 10, 2012, 06:57:45 PM »
The distance is longer than you might expect, the lens longer than you might expect.  The perspective is very "flat" or "compressed".   Not sure if its a "ring" flash, but the flash is almost on axis, very very close to the axis of the lens, just barely above it.  There was no other modifier used.  The under-chin shadow is abrupt... hence no modifier.

Truth be told, some of the nicest direct flash ever, was with that awkward contraption on the old "283", which let you mount a Kodak grey card's white side as a soft reflector.   It worked.

Lenses / Re: Any Wedding Lens Advice?
« on: September 10, 2012, 12:25:01 AM »
I dunno... maybe I'm strange, maybe I'm too old school.

Have shot my share of back breaking weddings with 500c/m and 60, plus an 80 as a spare.  Got it all.  Used 283's in Chimera boxes - camera mounted - for light.  Got it all.  Every once in a while, a balcony shot, ok dig out the 250, or add the Mutar to the 80.

Fast forward to today.

Holy crap.... give me a 24-105/4.0, not much worse than the 60/3.5 on the Hasselblad,  Give me TTL speedlights in the same Chimera box on the camera... If I can't do it with that alone, maybe an extra light as fill or highlight... something is seriously wrong.

Just my 2c on it all....

Lenses / Re: Upgrading a 300 f2.8
« on: September 10, 2012, 12:15:24 AM »

My own personal thoughts from someone who has lugged his share of photogear thru all sorts of sippery sloggy mosquito infested trails in The Everglades..... I'd put my dollars into a body that can focus quick as lightning.  Your lens is up to it, maybe not the very best of the focus speed, but not a slagger either.   For sports, nature, especially birds, focus speed gives you more keepers than a lens with 2% better IQ.

There have been times, photographing limkins, scarlet ibis... that tend to stick to the shadows, and come out late and early when the light is not the best... that I could have used IS.  Then again, the last time I slogged thru the 'glades I had film and digital that went to 1600 max, and up to 800 was "ok" with noise.   Better body, higher ISO with acceptable noise... that IQ difference is seeming smaller and smaller.  What makes the keepers?  IN FOCUS makes keepers, and catchlights... get a fast focusing body, get a flash and beam extender Fresnel on the front...for those all important catchlights... if nature is your thing. 

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Second Curtain Sync - Design Flaw?
« on: September 09, 2012, 01:45:50 PM »
@CharlieB I believe he has said he verified that second curtain sync is maintained after he removed the Canon flash. 

I took that to mean its maintained in the menu system... wasn't sure if it was actually doing 2nd curtain.

Well aware of all complexities with flash synch... you simply cannot have the start of 2nd curtain travel coincide with the synch.  Synch has to be slightly before 2nd curtain travel begins, and it needs to be enough before that, so that the flash has finished firing before the curtain has covered any of the film gate (sensor gate?).

Not talking HHS here, but good ol' X synch.   Doing a bit of research.... curtain travel time, complete traverse at X synch speed of 1/250 sec, is about 3.5milliseconds, or... 3.5/1000ths of a second.  Clearly, if a longish flash duration of 1/1000 sec is called for, we're gonna have a curtain that is about 1/3 of the way across the sensor when the flash stops firing - IF - the synch is at the beginning of 2nd curtain travel.   Therefore, actual 2nd curtain synch is really "near 2nd curtain" synch, whereas, the synch must occur with at least as much time before 2nd curtain travel, as it takes for the flash itself to fire, and to allow for any systemic delays.

So... I'd say, someplace at least around 1/1500th of a second before actual 2nd curtain movement, you've got 2nd curtain synch, which insures that a long duration (not HSS) flash is fully extinguished prior to the shutter actually starting to close. 

How Canon handles that... speculative, but... its not unreasonable to think they take it into account, and vary the actual synch in relation to the 2nd curtain movement, based on the predicted flash firing time (not HSS).
As we know, with conventional flash photography, the flash duration, not impulse power, determines the effective flash exposure.  The flash is made to fire for shorter times as less "power" is needed.

As far as I know, there is no 2nd curtain synch for HSS, they're mutually implementable modes of operation. 

Lenses / Re: Upgrading a 300 f2.8
« on: September 09, 2012, 01:28:52 PM »
Have rented each.  Not a hoot'n holler difference in IQ, in fact... the non-IS may be a hair better.

When I begin to be interested in shooting test targets and charts instead of herons, ducks, and "chicken-like marsh birds", maybe some significance in IQ will grab me by the neck, but until then....nada.

I found IS helpful... but not overly so.   Based on all that - I chose to stay with my 300/4.0L, non-IS, based mainly on weight.  That is, when you trudge thru things, weight is big factor, especially when you have a tripod and small bag of kit with you.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 Second Curtain Sync - Design Flaw?
« on: September 09, 2012, 11:54:10 AM »
I don't think this is a design flaw.

Either by way of direct mounting, or coupled external flash (cable, wireless), there needs to be an TTL flash "known" by the camera.

The reason, I believe, is due to the nature of the 2nd curtain synch.  Although the curtain travel time is very fast, at some flash output settings - which are tube firing time derived - you will probably get some unwanted consequences. 

Put another way, 2nd curtain synch actually occurs BEFORE the 2nd curtain begins to move.  But how much before?  It depends on how long the flash tube is going fire in order to achieve what the "camera/flash" system believe are correct exposure.  This may be splitting hairs, but on larger units, the flash tube firing time can be just under 1/1000 second, and no doubt Canon has accounted for this timing factor by limiting the way 2nd curtain synch is implemented.

Moreover... I would not be surprised that if you first set the camera to 2nd curtain, and then went with a non-TTL remote setup, that the camera might "say" its on 2nd curtain, but actually has reverted to first curtain.  I can see Canon doing that.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d Mki or 60d (landscapes)
« on: September 09, 2012, 11:33:30 AM »
You can get a clean 5D, in really nice shape, for not a whole lot of cash.

Here's the way I see it:  Its a cost effective way to get FF imaging.  The 12mp images it makes are very good.

If you're the kind of landscape photographer that shoots long scenes with medium telephotos (mountains, waterfalls, etc) the 60 might be better.   But if you like wide angles, you can't beat a FF sensor.

My old XTi (400D) was capable of very nice imagery even at its "puny" 10mp output.  You'll not be under-gunned with output on a 5D, unless you're really printing very large.  In that case, the 60D isn't gonna cut the mustard either.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern on the 5D Mark III
« on: September 07, 2012, 09:21:35 PM »
I know they had problems with the dual processors ... there's a long explanation on the website.  Maybe they've overcome things.

EOS Bodies / Re: Pre digital days, please shed some light for me
« on: September 07, 2012, 06:44:41 PM »
I never liked kodachromeod th, Why did it get so much rave?  I never understoat.

Kodachrome could be harsh in a lot of instances.  It had outrageous detail in the shadows, tended to burn highlights easily, more easily than any other transparency film.  But... if you could control the lighting, or you were shooting in good conditions... to me at least, it yielded results were pretty outstanding.  The ultra fine grain of the 25 and even 64 variety was superior, and even the 200 speed had an interesting quality.  You either loved it, and dealt with its shortcomings, or you hated it.  I shot an awful lot of birds and scenery with Kodachrome 200, some of that in 120 size (talk about to die for these days!).   You want to see something?  Project a well exposed Kodachrome 120 size slide on a screen, one taken say... with a Hasselbled and 150 Sonnar.  We just dont have that sort of thing at our disposal today.

Then there were the dye transfer prints from Kodachrome.   Total manipulation.  It was the silver based way of getting HDR prints.  Done right, dye transfer prints were superior in all respects to anything else out there.

And on that note of wistful history... I'm due a bourbon, just because.

EOS Bodies / Re: Pre digital days, please shed some light for me
« on: September 06, 2012, 09:45:07 PM »
The marketing term for megapixels is "measured-in quality".

The master of this is the venerable Sear-Roebuck Company.  The 5.2gallon Craftsman shop vac clearly isn't as good, or pricey as the 5.9 gallon model. 


In the old days, there was clear distinction of cameras, as there is today, by feature set.  Its just that the features were different.

Back in the 90's we had the EOS-1 varient, the EOS-3, the EOS-5, and the EOS-7's... not in that order, and the Rebel line up. 

The IQ was more or less the same thru the whole line - as the FILM and LENSES were the same.  You got, back then, metering, FPS, other features, viewfinder coverage, flash manipulation, that sort of thing... and yes, build quality.

Today, IQ is part of the feature set.

I've still got a pair of EOS-5's, and they seem like Rebel lineup as far as build quality goes... even below that really.  My Rebel XTi was built nicer, felt better, sturdier.  But they work! 

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Your Ultimate Gear (wish)list
« on: September 05, 2012, 09:45:27 PM »
I've got what I think it ok.

For Hasselblad:
SWC 38mm
2x Mutar
and 350mm

For Leica:
28 summicron asph
35 summicron asph
50 summicron
90 summicron apo asph

and for Canon
two EOS-5's
100/2.8 macro usm

I think soon, as soon as my clutch is better... a 16-35/2.8 USM

And pie in the sky (after an M9) a 300/2.8

Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Your Ultimate Gear (wish)list
« on: September 05, 2012, 09:41:48 PM »
Oh M9 or M10 definitely.

I owned a 50/.095 for a few years.  I was converted to M by Marty Forscher.

The lens is soft at .095, better at 2.0 and ok, but not great by 5.6

It uses the outer bayonet on Canon RF cameras.  No such thing on Leica M's. 
I had one, it fit and focused on the M3 I had at the time.  It brought up the right frame.

It also blocked the viewfinder... who major bigtime!

I shot jazz ensembles, with 2475 recording, wide open... with that lens in the late 70's and early 80's.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Regrets -- Your One Missed Picture?
« on: September 04, 2012, 11:25:56 PM »
I regret... well...

Once upon a time, I traveled to the Florida keys to take some pictures of whatever we could.

Sunrise... and on Big Pine key there was an estuary.  You'd think it was the west side of things, but since the road is heading west at that point, it was actually on the east side of things.  Great sunup.  Oh man, to die for, big round sun, and hoards of wading birds, and roosting birds.   I was shooting a Nikon F2 with a 400/5.6, and my buddy was shooting a Bronica S2a with a 150 Nikkor on it.

I told him to wait... I was fiddling, trying to make sure the film was advancing... trying to set up a "Leitz Tiltall" tripod in the semi-mud that we crawled in on, so as not to disturb the birds.  Almost ready...


That S2a went off like an explosion.  Those Bronicas were focal plane cameras... loud as hell.  No sneaking up on anything with those.  He got the shot, I got skunked.  Ended up begrudgingly taking a few sunrise pictures, and made sure he got to walk a lot in Key West, carrying that Godawful heavy Bronica, while I had a nice 24/2.8 on my F2.

Dunno if that counts as a missed shot, but... there ya go, from 1977.

Canon is very tight lipped.... they are not know for uncontrolled leaks.  A few happen... but they have at times totally bewildered the photo trade as well.   I attended dinners, as Canon's guest, back in the 70's and 80's, for product rollouts that we had ZERO clue on.  Other items, my rep would say, "we're gonna have a new (whatever) out in the fall... maybe Photokina, maybe PMA", and that was that.

Didn't they knock one out of the park with the Rebel/300D ?  That was a leakproof milestone for Canon.

So, ya just can't tell.... ya gotta wait.

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