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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern... CONTINUOUS raw recording @ 24fps on 5D3

« on: May 18, 2013, 03:33:44 PM »

4)     Process .dng files just like you would a raw from a camera…because that is exactly what they are. (I convert my Canon .CR2 files into .dng files anyway) TIME: how many images have you edited in LR?

How long does it take for LR to apply the edit done to the initial .dng to the rest of the batch?

AE seems to be pretty slow at this (like 45 minutes for 49 second long clip or in that ballparl).

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern... CONTINUOUS raw recording @ 24fps on 5D3

« on: May 18, 2013, 03:32:23 PM »

Warning: Komputerbay 128GB cards are too slow. They won't work for this. I hear their smaller sized cards are faster though.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D & EOS 7D Mark II

« on: May 17, 2013, 08:24:40 PM »

We’re told a “surprise” announcement will be made by Canon in July, what that is we’re unsure. However, the source alluded to it being a camera body. I wouldn’t call the EOS 70D a “surprise”, but we’ll see. Could it be…….. something else?

Lets see...
* Canon announces RAW video in official firmware
* Canon announces 4k video in official firmware for 1DX/5DIII with some special add on device
* Canon announces a m4/3 camera plus lenses
* Canon announces a new EOS-M series camera that is radically different
* Canon announces a DSLR wither either hybrid or pure EVF
* Canon announces a DSLR that is modeled on the Ricoh GX-R with a plugable sensor/CPU module
* Canon announces a 70D with the autofocus from the 5DIII
* Canon announces a new APS-H DSLR (not likely)

... other ideas?

I like your fifth idea! How about both the 7D and 70D both being mirrorless cameras with shortened flange distances and Canon introducing a 1-1/3 stop Speed Booster-like adapter? The FF cameras could keep the standard flange distance and mirrors for photographic Neanderthals. The M-mount might have been introduced, half-heartedly, solely to allow a reduction in camera size.

Canon had a chart with a very high tier mirror less camera slot left open maybe it is some sort of mirrorless 1 series sort of beast.

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EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 70D & EOS 7D Mark II

« on: May 17, 2013, 08:23:41 PM »

We’re told a “surprise” announcement will be made by Canon in July, what that is we’re unsure. However, the source alluded to it being a camera body. I wouldn’t call the EOS 70D a “surprise”, but we’ll see. Could it be…….. something else?

Lets see...
* Canon announces RAW video in official firmware
* Canon announces 4k video in official firmware for 1DX/5DIII with some special add on device
* Canon announces a m4/3 camera plus lenses
* Canon announces a new EOS-M series camera that is radically different
* Canon announces a DSLR wither either hybrid or pure EVF
* Canon announces a DSLR that is modeled on the Ricoh GX-R with a plugable sensor/CPU module
* Canon announces a 70D with the autofocus from the 5DIII
* Canon announces a new APS-H DSLR (not likely)

... other ideas?

Canon introduces the 5D3FUML which is exactly the same as the 5D3 only it ships with firmware locking out firmware hacking  . That just might well start a revolution.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: So, has anyone recorded externally hdmi from 5d3 firmware updates?

« on: May 17, 2013, 03:17:44 PM »

ML RAW gives MUCH better quality, have to blind AND not trying to not instantly see the difference. The Ninja 2 1.2.1 external recording stuff is a minor little difference that most times you have to reallllly look to notice and well a basic static shot and you'd be hard pressed to see much difference but with ML the difference leaps out at you.

Of course the Ninja 2 does record gobs of footage at once and is tres easy to handle and you don't need to do slow pr-processing step for every little minute clip (OTOH that slow pre-process also is done with full power of ACR and even ACR and PS so you can get things so good that you don't even need to process anything in PP or use any slow tools there which does greatly speed up final compression time in PP so you gain some time back there, it's just it is a bit nicer to have the slow stage later rather than earlier, but whatever).

But most people have been kinda hmm eh I mean I guess a little about the HDMI+Ninja 2 and like OMG!!!!!!!!!!! about the ML RAW.

Once ML works with 1.2.1 the Ninja would make a nice zebra/focus peaking monitor though over HDMI since, at least for now, the ML RAW hack tends to crap out earlier at times if you try to force it's focus peaking and zebras and fancy stuff to run full force at the same time as the ML RAW is going.

If you do run 1.2.1 over HDMI I think the Atmos Ninja 2 type stuff is the way to go over the Black Magic for various reasons.

But man that ML RAW is just wow!

I wonder if they will find a way to feed the HDMI out with a less mangled signal. It would have to be 10bits at most and probably 8bits since I bet Canon didn't use HDMI 1.3 although who knows 1.3 is ubiquitous these days. It seems criminal that it took Canon six months to get the same crappy singnal out of HDMI and ML gives us this RAW stuff in three weeks. Perhaps the digic chip just utterly sucks at debayer and processing (in cam jpgs were never nearly as crips as RAW, but then again they do seem much better than the video stuff so....) and maybe that is why they say they do not use digic in C300 but use older video cam chips for processing?? (but still the in cam jpgs are better than the video they get out of it so....)

That said they did slightly tweak the video for 1.2.1 so whether hmdi or internal it does produce a bit better signal than it does with the older firmware. (which also reminds me DO NOT compare 1.2.1 HDMI Ninja 2 footage to pre-1.2.1 internally recorded footage since that footage is worse than the new internal footage quality).

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern... CONTINUOUS raw recording @ 24fps on 5D3

« on: May 17, 2013, 03:11:44 PM »

I was just thinking that you could probably batch the .DNG files not just in AE/ACR but in PS/ACR with with full PS power and various other plug-ins and have video frames processed with full on stills photography quality tools and all sorts of fancy, fancy processing and super advanced sharperning, NR, coloring tools.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern... CONTINUOUS raw recording @ 24fps on 5D3

« on: May 15, 2013, 11:10:10 PM »

Here is a comp making the rounds:
left is ML RAW video frame cap and right is without ML video frame cap (both are 100% crop crops)

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern... CONTINUOUS raw recording @ 24fps on 5D3

« on: May 15, 2013, 02:51:27 PM »

You do get a bit more aliasing though so it's perhaps a touch more of a video-cam digital look than as filmic but OTOH all the detail isn't smeared away and it's much easier to control dynamic range and colors.

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Magic Lantern... CONTINUOUS raw recording @ 24fps on 5D3

« on: May 15, 2013, 04:35:43 AM »

A (perhaps) stupid question. What software do you use to edit the raw video output? I'm very interested in installing this and giving it a go on my camera but my video experience is about nil.

The EosHD has a better, full description. It looks like you need to convert it with another tool into something that pulls the DNGs apart so that something like After Effects can pull them in as a sequence. See the Workflow section on the link.

yeah that which is basically:
1. make a folder and plop rawtodng.exe and the RAW video file into it
2. drag the RAW video file onto rawtodng.exe, wait a while
3. move the RAW video file and the rawtodng.exe to some other folder
4. start After Effects and then select Import -> multiple files and select the first DNG in the folder
5. then it will open up ACR and you adjust it up all as you wish
6. then it will open up the file dialog again and this time near the bottom right you select "import folder"
7. then it boom does that and automatically applies the same ACR settings to every frame
8. then you click on the that imported file set name near the upper left
9. then go to the menu and do export to render queue
10. then in the render que you can fiddle with the various options there if you wish (you need to at least set the output name style and then it asks for directory)
11. then you hit Render and then like 45 minutes later of your CPU burning up (for like 50 seconds of footage) you get a video file, maybe AVI lossless or maybe Cinemark or ProRes or something depending upon what codecs you have and select (using different HDs for buffers and out put and internal fast ones might speed this up, as might selecting more core usage, having faster computer, having 16GB of memory, etc.)
12. Then you can import that into Premiere and do whatever.

a bit slow in the stuff the computer does but in some ways it saves tweaking time since RAW+ACR have tons of power compared to video programs handling 8bit files

quality is crazy compared to the regular video it produces

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EOS Bodies / Re: New 5D3 Raw video samples mind blowing!

« on: May 14, 2013, 01:37:08 PM »

http://www.eoshd.com/content/10324/big-news-hands-on-with-continuous-raw-recording-on-canon-5d-mark-iii

He updated the samples! Quality is just insane.

Just like that this may have become the best video DSLR ever. By MILES. And even outdo many of the more (even much more) expensive mid-tier video offerings.

The real crazy thing is that this capability also exists on the 5D2, that means we could have had video like this 5 years ago. 

At this point I am convinced that Canon helped ML get this up and running.  The timing is just too weird.

I still don't think it's quite on par with the BMCC, but it's definitely debatable now (we need more tests), and it wasn't before.

This is the coolest thing from Canon in the past 4 years, and ostensibly, they had nothing to do with it.   

I'm not sure about that. So far the 5D2 samples are all jumpy and most I've seen have the same really bad aliasing and moire. The 5D2 sensor doesn't bin and skips tons of lines.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III with Continuous RAW Video Recording

« on: May 14, 2013, 01:33:46 PM »

Funny how in previous threads everyone wanted RAW video on Canon DSLRs, and now that it can be done everyone in this thread is so MEH about it, hahaha.

They are?? All I see is insane. Mind blowing. etc.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: M RAW or "full" RAW on a Canon 6d?

« on: May 14, 2013, 01:29:39 PM »

Just curious what most are using with their 6D or even Mark III?  M RAW to save file space, or "full" RAW?  According to the manual it is faster to shoot in full RAW, but the files are about 30% larger.  How much quality will I lose if I shoot in M RAW?  What are the drawbacks?  When would you shoot ful full RAW, and when would someone shoot in M RAW?  Also, why would full raw, with larger files sizes be faster in burst mode than M RAW?

Any info or help on this would be great, thanks!

M RAW are slower because they need a lot of processing to be converted from a full RAW to a pseudo RAW M RAW.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: M RAW or "full" RAW on a Canon 6d?

« on: May 14, 2013, 01:29:00 PM »

Just curious what most are using with their 6D or even Mark III?  M RAW to save file space, or "full" RAW?  According to the manual it is faster to shoot in full RAW, but the files are about 30% larger.  How much quality will I lose if I shoot in M RAW?  What are the drawbacks?  When would you shoot ful full RAW, and when would someone shoot in M RAW?  Also, why would full raw, with larger files sizes be faster in burst mode than M RAW?

Any info or help on this would be great, thanks!

You lose a decent amount. Those RAWs are not even truely full real RAWs, they've been debayered and so on already and give up a good bit of resolution and reach.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III with Continuous RAW Video Recording

« on: May 14, 2013, 03:16:24 AM »

http://www.eoshd.com/content/10324/big-news-hands-on-with-continuous-raw-recording-on-canon-5d-mark-iii

The updated video there now is beyond insane.

The 5D3 may have just become the greatest DSLR in history!!!!

(OK if you like video and stills; otherwise if you only care about still then 1DX for fast action, 7D for wildlife reach and D800/D600 for low ISO high DR work)

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EOS Bodies / Re: 5D Mark III with Continuous RAW Video Recording

« on: May 14, 2013, 03:13:52 AM »

So why is he wearing a helmet?

because the quality of this camera is now mind blowing and he wants to retain his brains