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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 11:01:39 PM »
I think we should withhold judgement until we see IQ and noise control from this 20.2 megapixel sensor. Because in the end, isn't that what really matters?

yeah but it will be tough to beat the D600 if the D600 is exmor and if it does come close then what the heck were they thinking saving their best tech for the 6D and putting old tech in the king pin 5D3 and 1DX???

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:58:51 PM »
I totally agree!! unless they came up with a revolutionary sensor  8)

+1   That is the only thing that can save this spec, imho.

yeah but then it's like why the heck did you save the good sensor for the 6D and put in the old tech for the 5D3 (And 1DX)??? wth


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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:57:47 PM »
Hopefully the one saving specification the Canon could have at this point might ironically be the 11 point AF system... wait, I know what your thinking, hear me out...

From what we've seen of both Nikon's and Sony's offerings, they're using AF modules borrowed from their APS-C cameras, meaning they occupy a tiny little fraction of the frame, all clustered into the centre. Aside from subject tracking, which these cameras are not made for, and which the Sony will (based on specs alone) probably only marginally excel at, having all the AF points in the centre is a nightmare for all sorts of photographers who would like this as a secondary body, and for those people as basic as an 11 point AF seems, its better than a "19+109 point" that covers a fraction of the frame.

Here's hoping that Canon manage to bring out the only entry level FF with FF AF.


AF systems are basically the same size for APS_C or APS-H or FF so not sure what you mean buy that....


mmm.... are you sure? I was very much under the impression that AF area was linked to prism size which is linked to sensor size.

Look at the AF area coverage of the D600 here : http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=42484333

And the Sony A99 here: http://4.static.img-dpreview.com/previews/sony-alpha-slt-a99/images/screens/AF-Range.jpg?v=1581

Both, but particularly the Sony are tiny compared to the frame coverage of any of the 5D's.


look inside a 5D2 and then look inside a 50D and you'll see the AF sensor is basically the same size, the AF sub mirror is way smaller than the main mirror on the 5D2 and only moderately smaller than the main mirror on the 50D. They are limited by the angle they can collect light from the 35mm mount lens and still work well. Also notice how the APS-C AF points tend to appear much, much closer to the edges than they do on the 5D2, because it's basically the same size AF system so it covers more of the APS-C sensor than the FF sensor area.

Maybe it is 11 cross type and 1 super precision type and 6 central assists or even 3 pairs of 6 assists???

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EOS Bodies / Re: Describe the 6D in one word...
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:31:32 PM »
Although I abstained so as to not taint the vote, I have to say "I'm excited! No, really!".
Because I didn't get around to listing my 5D2 for sale yet!  ;D


EDIT: although now i'm worried it might be 11 cross, 1 super precision and hidden assits, in which case i may have just taken a soaking on my used 5D2, damn new i needed to get it sold last week.... but so busy shooting stuff

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:25:58 PM »
Delay, quality issue, quick price drop (indication of overprice?), boring new product, .... Something is not right. I give two thumbs up to their lens department, but the 1DX and 5D3 might be the last two cameras that (arguably) beat their competitors if they let arrogance and lack of innovation take over.

Ah whatever, they will do what they will do. I was afraid of this already like half a decade ago.

As someone said at least they have released some utterly kick ass lenses the last few years.
If only their sensor and body division would act with the same drive and pride!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:18:43 PM »
Does this thing even have any AF assist points? The 5D2 is 9+6 pts for 15 total I think. 9 regular and 6 hidden assists. So is this one 11 regular but 0 assists? For sports/action/bird tracking that would actually make it a worse camera than the 5D2. Maybe it is 11+6? (the part of me that's wants canon to do well hopes so, the part of me that wants to sell my 5D2 hopes not as well as the part of me that wants them for once and all to finally get woken up before they give it all away.... they were once the total leader in sensors and then video and now....)

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:14:26 PM »
Hopefully the one saving specification the Canon could have at this point might ironically be the 11 point AF system... wait, I know what your thinking, hear me out...

From what we've seen of both Nikon's and Sony's offerings, they're using AF modules borrowed from their APS-C cameras, meaning they occupy a tiny little fraction of the frame, all clustered into the centre. Aside from subject tracking, which these cameras are not made for, and which the Sony will (based on specs alone) probably only marginally excel at, having all the AF points in the centre is a nightmare for all sorts of photographers who would like this as a secondary body, and for those people as basic as an 11 point AF seems, its better than a "19+109 point" that covers a fraction of the frame.

Here's hoping that Canon manage to bring out the only entry level FF with FF AF.

AF systems are basically the same size for APS_C or APS-H or FF so not sure what you mean buy that....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Official Specs
« on: September 16, 2012, 10:12:57 PM »
One word for the 6D?

Meh.
+1, that is the best way to describe this incremental model.

another is.... thank god!
(since I was slow to get my 5D2 listed for sale, maybe now it won't 100% crash in price, although damn, I bet this will knock a couple hundred bucks off it though :( )


but man the D600 just makes this look utterly silly! How can the 6D be the same price?

So, I think it's a stupid spec once again showing Canon being totally behind the 8 ball, arrogant and left behind. But man am I ever relieved and happy personally  ;D I may not have utterly blown it by being so slow to list my 5D2 for sale....

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 6D Specs Leaked?
« on: September 14, 2012, 09:40:34 PM »
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<strong>Canon EOS 6D Specs?<br />


</strong>I received this spec list this morning, and it seems to have also appeared at <a href=\"http://digicame-info.com/2012/09/eos-6d-20.html\" target=\"_blank\">Digicame-info</a>.</p>
<ul>
<li>A new 20mp sensor</li>
<li>Full Frame</li>
<li>4.5fps</li>
<li>ISO Range 100-25600</li>
<li>DIGIC5+</li>
<li>APS-C Sized body</li>
<li>Weathersealed</li>
<li>SD Card</li>
<li>Built-in Wifi & GPS</li>
<li>11 AF Points, f/2.8 Cross-type in the center.</li>
<li>3″ LCD</li>
<li>Full HD (1920×1080)</li>
<li>Available December 2012</li>
<li>Price: $1999 USD Body Only (Speculated price)</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Source: [<a href=\"http://digicame-info.com/2012/09/eos-6d-20.html\" target=\"_blank\">DC</a>]</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">c</span>r</strong></p>



hmm and how does this possibly bring any non-Canon shooter into the canon world instead of Nikon world???
D600 blows the #### out of it. Unless you have tons of lenses or are dying to use certain lenses.... and a good number of those people might be wanting 5D3 or 7D or whatnot anyway perhaps.

just a rumor though of course


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So far I've been getting the best results yet from any body for one shot mode AF from my 5D3 (similar to 1DX AF).
I haven't done much model type stuff yet though so even for one shot, my results are still tentative though.

I did see a few weird things during AI Servo which I am not sure about yet though. I have tested that in real world usage even less yet.


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Lenses / Re: The First Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Review
« on: September 11, 2012, 03:49:22 PM »

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Lenses / Re: Roger at LensRentals impression of 24-70 II
« on: September 11, 2012, 03:45:52 PM »
http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/09/canon-24-70-f2-8-ii-resolution-tests


see now this is what I was talking about
i sooner believe this than all of the other random early reviews calling it mediocre

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D3 for sports/action?
« on: September 08, 2012, 12:40:24 PM »
Well, it definitely was inferior to the 1D X I have.  The silent shutter was nice, but I'm probably going to take my 300 f/2.8 next time and shoot with the 1D X.

i tried some tennis with it yesterday 5D3, seems like a LOT of misses at tennis (which seemed like it should be remarkably easier for the AF system, than soccer or football)

some might have been heat haze though, brutal heat and shooting from in stands (very close though) so that meant a different surface between me and the court, and some was definitely just me, but something seemed a little weird, kept wanting to jump back 2-4' behind a player at times (and focus on nothing, stuff behind player was more than 2-4' back) and even when they were just walking towards stands, at times it didn't seem to keep f/2.8 DOF dead on player, need to look into it more to see what the story it, i'm sure i probbaly didn't have the ideal settings and in other cases it was def stuff I didn wrong, but

I've had amazing one shot mode success with 5D3 so far (easily most accurate and precise of the bodies I've ever used for that) and it's done better than 7D under same conditions (I actually find 7D does worse than 5D2 for AI Servo more often than it does better for soccer). Oddly, not sure it's done better for AI Servo than my 5D2 yet. But I haven't really figured the system all out yet or shot more than a very little so it's hard to say. And some of the errors were my own.

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Lenses / Re: The First Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Review
« on: September 08, 2012, 12:20:08 AM »
I couldn't get over his pronunciation of Bokeh though...
I just about lost it when he talked about the 82mm "fulda" size... shouldn't there be an 'i' and a 't' in there somewhere?  :)

After watching the video, I see no reason (other than weight) for me to replace my Mark I with the Mark II version.

eh whatever, lots of area in the USA people turn 't' to 'd' and he sounds like he isn't even from the States, maybe Australia originally at least?

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Lenses / Re: The First Canon EF 24-70 f/2.8L II Review
« on: September 08, 2012, 12:16:50 AM »
I bet it will turn out to be way better than he implies.

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