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as mentioned before by someone, AFMA is a feature to fix canons own shortcomings in the manufacturing process. it should be a standard feature!

Why stop at just AFMA?  Everything should be a standard feature on the $649 13.05 ounce camera.  Everything has the potential to be useful to some photographer somewhere.  And added complexity never stopped anyone from buying a camera.  Yep, we know Canon's business better than they do. ;)

Because AFMA is different. It is NOT a feature it is about making a camera not be broken and about making up for QC tolerances!!!!

Something that is a feature is AutoISO. That is something one can argue over and, in fact, I will. It still doesn't work even on 5D3!! Every other maker has it working for years on rebel-like stuff and Canon marketing, after a decade, is STILL slowly dribbling it out even to top level.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Announces the EOS T5i
« on: March 21, 2013, 05:25:26 PM »
A real update to a Rebel would've been:

* Built-In WiFi.


* 2 more FPS

that's probably the 70D although maybe they could add 1

* An extra stop in ISO performance.

not easy to do, cams are already so good for SNR
for DR yeah they coudl easily add not just one but even 3 stops at low ISO and some more high ISO DR too

not sure why they bothered, either add that stuff or don't waste time on the t5i.

Does anyone remember the film days, when a new camera model was introduced every five years or more?  Now anything over a year and people are freaking out.  I started on the fantastic manual Pentax K1000 which had about a 20 year production run (and I am pretty sure is the best selling camera model of all time).

Yes, but as see below did they come out with an EOS651 and EOS652 just to put a new dial on them? No and look below:

OK, the t5i does seem unnecessary - why not stick with t4i? 

Exactly this one is a total waste. Waste of time making all new info for it, tooling up new housings, etc. Just keep the t4i out there another year then (with firmware update to add AMFA). How on earth can it not have at least gotten the wifi/network stuff?

As for AFMA, I use a 5D2, I have large aperture lenses, and I have never had a need for AFMA.  Plus, no one is using large aperture lenses on these cameras and it would just be another confusing menu item.  I teach beginning photo classes at my lab and trust me, there are way too many menu options already - the average person does not want and will never use all those settings.

Well, I have yet to find a body+lens combo that has worked best at AMFA 0.
I have found many cases where it made a radical difference.
I think the average person finds it more confusing when they aim at something and find the darn focus 3' in front what they aimed at in 2/3rd of their shots no?

If anyone if worries about AFMA, then they aren't the target audience for this camera...  The people who are the target audience are those who say, of look cool, it has video!

there are plenty of people who can only afford a xxxD body.
they spend more for lenses and AFMA would be usefull for them.

Of course I would love a lexus, but if I could only afford a Hyundai, I wouldn't expect to get high end lexus features in the Hyundai.  If you can only afford this camera, save up like just about anyone has to do, or if your set on getting this level of camera, send in your camera/lenses to be calibrated together...

LOL...and Canon service will set AFMA in their service menus that can't be accessed by users...

The point is it costs them nothing to add it and it would be yet another sales bullet. Just think of all the buzz there would have been right here in this very thread if it was announced it DID have AFMA?

The point is, even a Hyundai has cup holders in it...

Skiltron, the point is the average rebel user isn't an above average photographer... it's a person who goes to costco and see's a rebel as splurging...  It's the realtor that would rather do their own photos rather than pay for a pro to do them for them and wonder why the photos dont look right...  It's that soccer mom who wants to take the photos of little jimmy and dont give a rats butt about the horrid noise...  Then they read in the manual that oh yeah, it has afma, and has NO clue how to do it, or dont even read the manual in the first place and dont even know it's there... then canon has to deal with the morons who buy the camera, reads about afma, and then calls them asking how to do it, and have their employees on the phone with the people for 10-15 minutes at a time trying to talk them through it, wasting their time and money...  It's stupid... it's advanced... It's like getting a hyundai accent and complaining it has a stick shift saying it should have pedal shifters instead.  It's more than enough camera for what that target market is aimed for.

what are the sources for your claims?
you make this up out of the air i guess.

i know many photographer who only have a 550D.
some work in asia as pro photographer for magazines.
they borrow lenses as they need them.

they just don´t have the money to buy a pro body!!
that does not mean they are all to stupid to know AFMA.

I know some really good (and serious) photographers who used Rebels for a long time, a few still do.
especially students

you could buy a 7D . . .

I've heard those things take decent photos occasionally . . .

I think you're barking up the wrong tree.  Judging by the comments above, most of the people posting on this thread don't take photos... I would be surprised if any of them even own a camera.

Judging by your comment above.... I would be surprised if you didn't work for Canon marketing.  ;D

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Announces the EOS T5i
« on: March 21, 2013, 02:54:44 PM »
What I don't understand is why everyone is so quiet about the Powershot 280 they released at the same time.... it kicks ass for a p/s.... better processor than the rebels, way more movie modes, a 20x zoom in a tiny package... GPS.... WiFi..... seriously kicks Rebel butt in so many ways!

If they put some of those features into a Rebel it would be a game changer.

It does sound interesting. This is primarily a DSLR message board though.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Announces the EOS T5i
« on: March 21, 2013, 02:52:07 PM »
Canon is milking the cow.

I said they were heading down this road as far back as 2007 and that everyone needed to make their voices heard full force now rather than later before thing got entrenched and everyone called me a ridiculous troll for suggesting such an absurd thing.  ;D  I still recall the Canon exec going on, more or less (not quite direct quotes ;) ) about how Canon was infinitely ahead of Nikon for FF sensors and it might be a decade before they could even release one and they scoffed at the need to produce fast or different FF bodies and said they were the supreme kings and could sit upon the hill and laugh and milk their product lines for all they were worth.

That said they have still done some good stuff too. And lots of nice lenses certainly. They have made some of their best lenses ever the last half decade.

EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Canon 5D Mark iii HDMI Clean Output?
« on: March 19, 2013, 09:30:52 PM »
So I heard Canon Announced that in the April of 2013, or next month, the Canon 5D Mark iii would get an update which would allow for a clean HDMI output. Does this mean that we can use an external recorder such as the BlackMagic Hyperdeck Shuttle for external recording? If so, then can we actually record at a higher fps such as 60p at Full HD? if not, then what kind of impact does this have on videomakers? Thank You in Advance!

It won't give 60p. Hopefully the better compression will make a noticeable difference. Depends how much of the problems occur before the compression stage. Maybe not.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon EOS 100D Detailed Specs Appear
« on: March 18, 2013, 07:39:51 PM »
An 18 MP APS-C sensor.  I'm shocked, really shocked. I didn't even know Canon had an 18 MP APS-C sensor, and yet here it is. Wow.


expected no new line sensor is ready now (we can only hope we don't also say that late 2013 or 2014 though too ;) ) and they want to milk this line and this the model to do it

Lenses / Re: How's the 70-300L?
« on: March 17, 2013, 03:11:35 PM »
Great and nice and compact. 300mm reach and can be weak for wildlife though, sadly.
It's small enough that lots of stadiums let it in.
Image quality is better than the 70-200 f/4 IS at the ends of the 70-200 range and a bit worse in the middle (better than 70-200+1.4x TC over 201-280).

Lenses / Re: Is my 24-105mm f/4 L unreasonably soft?
« on: March 17, 2013, 03:10:12 PM »
24-105L is NOT one of the sharper L lenses, it's one the very softest L lenses (although L lenses are a high standard keep in mind). That said the 17-85 was one of the softest non-L lenses and it seems surprising to hear it is sharper than your 24-105.

Lenses / Re: Is my 24-105mm f/4 L unreasonably soft?
« on: March 17, 2013, 03:08:45 PM »

Its hard to beat the 24-105mmL for the price.  You can beat it with a prime, but not a zoom in that price range.

Tamron 28-75 is sharper and costs less. And if you go to APS-C then tamron 17-50 2.8 too, probably sigma 16-50 IS too, etc. The new tamron 24-70 VC is also sharper (granted you can find so many kitted or dumped 24-105 that the 24-105 is effectively in a lower price bracket than that one though).

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 100D Coming? [CR1]
« on: March 16, 2013, 08:20:09 PM »
It was also mentioned that the price of the EOS 100D was “a bit expensive”.

Compaired to what? and EOS M or a Powershot or a 1DX  :o  ;D

Naaa, pinch of salt must be a slow weekend at rumour towers  ::)

Don't worry it's less than the 1DX. (but more than the 5D3 and that is where the "a bit expensive" comes in, still miniaturization and all has always cost, so how much can you really complain, in a few years they'll get it down to xxD or maybe even Rebel prices)

Canon General / Re: Creative Canon Invite for March 22
« on: March 15, 2013, 06:55:30 PM »
Holy photons, Batman!!!!

They're introducing a Bat Camera!!!!!

Just what we need.... comments from the Joker.... But can you solve the riddle of when the new sensor comes out?

No clue because the cat is still biting her tongue, purrrrhaps someday it will arrive though.

Pow!  WHAMP!!! zing! BAM!!!

Canon General / Re: Which eye do you shoot with?
« on: March 13, 2013, 06:11:13 PM »
Just a random question I was thinking about: which eye do you raise the viewfinder to when you're shooting?

I instinctively raise the camera to my left eye and always have. However, I was debating if it'd be worth learning to use my right.

That is, with my right eye still on the viewfinder, in theory I could use my left to look past the camera and survey the scene-- then quickly switch to using my right when I needed to aim, compose, and shoot.

Obviously it's not too important in the grand scheme of things, but I was just curious where you guys stood.
Usually right eye, it feels more natural plus the camera bodies were designed to fit that better anyway. Also you can sometimes keep the left eye open and get a clear view to peep. Occasionally when you need to peep with a second eye and it needs to be to the other side I will left eye shoot though.

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