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EOS Bodies / Re: 4 More DSLRs Coming in 2012? [CR2]
« on: June 13, 2012, 03:00:23 AM »
If it helps, you guys should go to the MacRumors forum and watch all the dudes tear their hair out because Apple hasn't seriously updated their i-Macs or Mac Book Pros for years.  Talk about long waits.  :(

They just got a frickin' 5MP 15" display on the new mac book pros!

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EOS Bodies / Re: Will there be a 7d2 at all?
« on: June 11, 2012, 03:01:45 AM »
I've been very happy with my 7D. For me the only thing lacking is the IQ at higher ISO.  I don't need more Megapixels, FPS, newer AF system, etc. 

The problem is the 7D is already getting near the reasonable limits of how good APS-C can be at high ISO. They could go 1/3 stop better for sure and probably even 1/2 stop better, but more than that and you may be waiting for something that won't arrive, at least not with any sensor at all like the ones they have been using, and even if not there is not a ton of room left to get better anyway. For dynamic range they could improve things a ton though.

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: Film is still hard to beat
« on: June 09, 2012, 05:32:51 PM »
I think digital is fine shot at lower iso. At iso 400 and up, I prefer film, because digital noise, more often than film grain, is UGLY. That said, I would never only shoot film, because of all the hassle and cost.

I only have experience shooting 35mm film.

There is barely any noise at ISO400 on digital and already tons with film.

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D mk II still a viable option?
« on: June 09, 2012, 05:16:43 PM »


Magic Lantern does both as you probably know already. I guess the guys at Canon are using ml too because they cannot live with their own feature-less firmware. So if the ml devs implement it for free, why pay Canon devs :-o ?

Yeah but they forgot about the part where all the major DSLR video review sites slammed it and went meh. Had they not left it to ML ;D they might gotten some better press and more jumping off the shelves.

Keep reminding us that the 5DII is rubbish and eventually we will forget that the D800 hasn't caught up with the 5DII yet

???

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EOS Bodies / Re: New 5D Mark III Firmware Before the End of May [CR2]
« on: June 09, 2012, 12:38:26 AM »
It seems that some people in this thread are looking at the wrong camera. This camera is designed mainly for still photography, NOT video.

Video is just a small "side bonus" on the 5D3, so don't be so surprised if Canon doesn't give you the features you want. They are saving all the good stuff for the 1DC-line. That is where you should be looking.

a $15,000 brick?


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Alas, it is a shame that most of the missing features can't be added by firmware. Like more resolution, more DR, and spot metering linked to selected AF point. (Just to name a few).

And yet those video features mostly COULD all be added by firmware so....

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EOS Bodies / Re: New 5D Mark III Firmware Before the End of May [CR2]
« on: June 09, 2012, 12:37:17 AM »
I just hope it means a 5D3 new firmware that has been rumored is coming too.

They so incredibly badly need to:
1. remove the silly 1/250th limit in AutoISO Av and bump it to a good 1/2000th or allow for EC in AutoISO M or both
2. they have GOT to add focus peaking to the video mode!!!!
3. they really should add zebra stripes for blown exposure to the video mode
4. they really need to add a 1920x1080 2x2 sampled 1.6x cropped video mode and it wouldn't hurt to also add an even more extreme mode (although this latter one would need to have some line skipping compromises of course, the 1.6x would not) although the non-line skipped 1.6x needs to be there regardless
5. let the user have the option for a really high bitrate for video for the IPB mode

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What is the chance of firmware update for the 5d3 and 5d2 10fps ? :)

Depending on the card you use, some people (e.g. dpreview.com) already get 24 RAW frame burst instead of Canon's stated 15 RAW frame burst. However dpreview report that the 5D Mark III is limited to 17 whilst Canon claim 18.

So on the one hand, Canon are overstating the performance (5D Mark III) which is what we'd expect, and on the other hand (7D), Canon seem to be understating the performance.

You can get way more than 17 on a 5D3!

"A few numbers (all tests at 1/800th shutter, no IS, no AF, no NR or any other in cam jpg special processing options, max continuous drive mode selected (7D pointed at a bright light so as to maintain max frame rate)) with the raw number being number of shots before you hear it slow down shooting and timed number is the continuous time you could shoot non-stop at the camera's max frame rate (derived by a simple frames/max fps of camera):

Test 1 (lens cap on or super underexposed near black frames (i.e. with requiring minimum for storage) at ISO100 on 5D3):

14 shots with a slow Lexar 16GB 200x card
17 shots with a 30MB/s SanDisk Extreme III 8GB card
20 shots (3.3s) with a 32GB SanDisk Extreme Pro 90GB/s card
35 shots (5.8s) with a 32GB Lexar 1000x card (whoa! 35! vs 20! 5.8s of continuous shooting vs only 3.3s!)

(so the Lexar 1000x makes a surprisingly large difference on the 5D3 and is well worth the $ if you seriously shoot action with the 5D3, do note that the 16GB 1000x card is said to be slower than the 32GB and larger 1000x cards so the advantage may be less if you go for the 16GB size; with this speed card the 5D3 continuous shooting time easily beats the 5D2 and 7D)

Test 2 (as above but on a 5D2):
16 shots (4.1s) with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s card
17 shots (4.3s) with a Lexar 32GB 1000x card

(so the extra $ for the Lexar 1000x makes no difference on a 5D2; with this speed card the 5D3 actually lets you shoot continuously for less long than the 5D2 or 7D)

Test 3 (as above but on a 7D):
29 shots (3.7s) with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s card
28 shots (3.5s) with a Lexar 32GB 1000x card

(so the extra $ for the Lexar 1000x makes no difference on a 7D, same result)

Test 4 (these have an actual image being shot and the ISOs are higher so each RAW file is larger, the performance drops considerably, especially above ISO800 and NOTE that the numbers will vary depending upon the scene shot as different scenes and exposures will produce different file sizes and any given scenario may bump all the numbers noticeably up or down; all are on the Lexar 32GB 1000x card):

ISO3200 5D3 - 20 shots (3.3s) - a big drop from the 35 for ISO100 black frame
ISO1600 5D3 - 24 shots (4s)
ISO800 5D3 - 30 shots (5s)

Test 5 (as above only this time a SanDisk Extreme Pro 90MB/s card was used in all cases):

ISO3200 5D3 - 14 shots (2.3s)
ISO1600 5D3 - 20 shots (3.3s)
ISO800 5D3 - 22 shots (3.7s)

Test 6 (as above only this time a SanDisk Extreme III 30MB/s card was used):
ISO800 5D3 - 15 shots (2.5s)

So yeah for most Canon cameras the Lexar 1000x will not be worth the money at all (unless you are want to pay that much for faster transfer speed to your computer and your computer supports USB3 and you have a USB3 card read that also takes full UDMA 7 advantage) but for the 5D3 wow if you are serious about shooting action and dont want to be saddled with a shorter shooting time buffer than the old 5D2 or 7D then get the Lexar 1000x, suddenly you actually can shoot for longer times non-stop than with the 5D2 or 7D and often by a large margin. So for the 5D3 and action it is well worth it. "

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D mk II still a viable option?
« on: June 08, 2012, 06:56:04 PM »


Magic Lantern does both as you probably know already. I guess the guys at Canon are using ml too because they cannot live with their own feature-less firmware. So if the ml devs implement it for free, why pay Canon devs :-o ?

Yeah but they forgot about the part where all the major DSLR video review sites slammed it and went meh. Had they not left it to ML ;D they might gotten some better press and more jumping off the shelves.



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Well a non-gripped 5D3 sure beats the 1 series hands down for ergonomics IMO and you pay less to get the better ergonomics avoid the brick too.  ;)

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Bought a 5D Mark iii Today (YAY)
« on: June 08, 2012, 06:47:02 PM »
PW......

Yes.....POTUS was on board, he had just finished a speech at U.N.L.V.

And, his cabin is right below the cockpit, so ironically he could've been looking out that third window......

I did get the kit, and the only lens I had was the 24-105.....it was a stretch, and I cropped the pic of the plane in LR.
_______

Mt Spokane Photography,

I bought the kit, and plan on buying a macro, telephoto, wide angle L series lenses (in that order).....so, I do have some things I need to acquire.....I didn't have time to learn the settings for the camera yesterday.....but will play around with it and read the manual this weekend when things are less hectic.....thanks for your input.


The kit lens is excellent, and you will love it. 
 
Once you get a FF, focal lengths are suddenly more limited, so you might be looking for longer focal lengths soon. 
 
Fortunately, there is a good assortment of older Canon telephoto lenses that perform reasonably well on the 5D MK II, so don't be afraid to pay $100 for a old 70-210mm f/4 zoom, its a old push-pull design, but will fill a gap until you can afford a top of the line lens.  I gave mine to my daughter and she loves it.  Another one, a 100-300mm lens can often be found for $100, and its respectable even though not spectacular.  I have had several of both, that came with old film bodies bought on Craigslist.

personally I'd spend the money on the long zooms and save it on the standard, if anything

why?

the current standard FF zooms from canon are hardly sharpness record breakers, the 24-105 is run of the mill at best for an L, the new tamron 24-70 2.8 has 2.8 and is sharper even if it costs just a little bit more and the tamron 28-75 2.8 is sharper and costs a ton less although with slower AF, no IS, a bit less contrast and doesn't go quite as wide

the canon 70-200 f/4 IS and 70-300 IS L are awesome lenses though and simply better than all the third party or non-L stuff

if the long zoom needs to cost less then i'd get 55-250 or tamron 70-300 vc over the ones you mention

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D mk II still a viable option?
« on: June 08, 2012, 06:40:40 PM »
IMO the 5DmkII is a better camera than the MkIII. The high ISO on the MKIII is not that useful due to the drop in DR and compared to the D4/1DX level bodies, it just can't compete. Not to mention the MKII was already good enough for most people so those running to the MkIII are a minority or just do it because they like the safety net even if they will never use the extra range. 6 FPS is not really a big jump over the 4fps of the mkII so it doesn't break any speed records. And the video addresses moire but you could have done that with the mosaic filter.

Unless you need the new AF, I see not one reason to buy the mkIII as it just doesn't do that much better to justify the price over the prior version.

What high ISO DR drop compared to the 5D2? The 5D3 actually has slightly better DR at high iso than the 5D2 and the only cams that do better in that regard at the D3s (but with very low res so it looks worse overall at high iso) and D4 and perhaps 1DX.

6fps isn't quite the 7-8fps you hope for but all the same it is a HUGE difference compared to 3.9fps. At 4fps you pretty much never ever get two key frames in most sports action sequences while with 6fps you sometimes do (at 8fps you almost always do) and sometimes is a lot better than never especially since it's not a really rare sometimes. It is a bit of a shame it didn't do the 6.9fps of the rumors though.

Swapping a moire filter in and out if you jump between video and stills is a royal pain and time waster and the 5D3 video has at least 1.5 stops better SNR if not more than the 5D3. It is a touch soft and it's ridiculous, beyond ridiculous they left out focus peaking, zebra stripes and pretty bad they didn't give it a 1.6x cropped mode, the sensor makes 1 .6x crop with no line skipping using 2x2 blocking like a C300 possible it would seem and no super zoom mode either.

The auto-updating custom functions, histogram that shows up under the sun so you can see where it ends, video/stills liveview toggle switch and other things make the UI noticeably better too.

The DR at low ISO is a bit of a sad joke though after all this time. Nikon gets better by like 2.7 stops and Canon actually gets like a fraction of a stop worse! It has worse per photosite read noise at low iso than anything they have made since like the 30D-era I think! That said it's not really any noticeably worse DR at low ISO than the 5D2, in the real world it's about a tie. It is a bit more color blind than the 5D2.


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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D mk II still a viable option?
« on: June 08, 2012, 06:33:10 PM »


Interesting, because I can use any of my AF points on the 7D in no light scenarios w\ assist beam and get sharp photos and shoot wide apertures not worrying too much about focus recompose. No need to worry about which AF point to use, as they're all excellent.


well using assist beams is something completely different

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Great!?! ...  I just went out and bought a Zoom for audio recording, because the 7D couldn't set the levels.  Looks like I didn't need to do that now.  I was really hoping for them to unlock the native 1080P  where it is effectively zoomed in.  One of the other bodies has that, and I think it would be very cool to gain a lot of focal length(not really focal length)  for free.

The zoom is still useful since the internal audio amp has horrible hiss. You need to hook a juicedlink pre-amp into it to get rid of hiss on internal recording (414 for ambient and low level sound, 200-level is ok for loud stuff or very close non-ambient mic). So the zoom would still sound way better unless you sell it and use the money for a JL or something.

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2. they have GOT to add focus peaking to the video mode!!!!
3. they really should add zebra stripes for blown exposure to the video mode
5. let the user have the option for a really high bitrate for video for the IPB mode

Magic lantern does these on digic4 bodies except the 7d, and probably will do it on the 5d3, too.

Probably, but it may be a while still and it won't do the cropped video modes I don't think.
Better to just have the camera do it out of the box and not in like 8 months from now.

I should maybe even look to joining in on the work myself, although I really need to get a couple other programs done first, bu tmaybe I can find a little time for some firmware work.

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I just hope it means a 5D3 new firmware that has been rumored is coming too.

They so incredibly badly need to:
1. remove the silly 1/250th limit in AutoISO Av and bump it to a good 1/2000th or allow for EC in AutoISO M or both
2. they have GOT to add focus peaking to the video mode!!!!
3. they really should add zebra stripes for blown exposure to the video mode
4. they really need to add a 1920x1080 2x2 sampled 1.6x cropped video mode and it wouldn't hurt to also add an even more extreme mode (although this latter one would need to have some line skipping compromises of course, the 1.6x would not) although the non-line skipped 1.6x needs to be there regardless
5. let the user have the option for a really high bitrate for video for the IPB mode

after the lukewarm reception it got from the video world they need to make it a solid effort

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