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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D hands-on reviews by many websites..
« on: December 09, 2012, 11:26:10 PM »
Our teachers say, that the 7D Mark 2 starts selling in the end of spring 2013 (in Germany and Austria). But it will be expensive.

That's very interesting.
I’m hearing similar things on other forums as well.
So, it seems that a 7DII announcement is indeed imminent.

I can’t imagine that the 7DII will be priced higher than the 6D.
Canon has done other nonsensical things, though (just look at the 6D AF system  :-*).
So,  who knows.

It might.

7D and 1D pro level
60D and 5 D are mid level prosumer grade
Rebel and 6 D consumer level

7D is going to have pro level features above and beyond the 6 D, with the only draw back being a crop sensor. Then again the current 7D wasn't priced above $2k.

I wouldn't go as far as stepping the 6D down to a rebel level. It's at least better sealed than a 60D, considering the fact it doesn't have a swivel screen and feels as sturdy as the 5D mark II. Look at the 6D AF system? How about actually using it? My wife's 6D is responsive as hell and as far as I've "seen" it's been much more accurate than any "rebel". Rebels don't have micro-adjust. Rebels don't even have custom white balance through kelvin. Not saying rebels can't do the job, but the 6D is far from being that far down the ladder especially at that price bracket. I think it's more on the lines of being a complimentary body to a 60D or 7D. Now you have a better variety of bodies to choose from. It will be easier for someone looking to upgrade from a rebel to gauge whether they need more reach and faster performance, or just need more image quality, especially at higher ISOs. Canon markets to an audience that actually exists, not forum posters who look at specs. Is an advanced AF system the new megapixel race? More points wins? How many points does a landscape, macro, or studio photographer need? Canon has made it clear that if you want pro AF or full frame you need to pay for it, and to have it all you're going to have pay some more. The last time I heard about Canon doing a nonsensical thing, like "rebelizing" a product, it sold quite well. In fact, according to real world sales figures from stores like Calumet, B&H, and DigitalREV the 60D is one of Canon's best selling cameras of all time. I vote prosumer for 6D.

Thanks for the results.  I'm considering upgrading from a 7D.  How does the 7D compare in these tests?  Does anybody know?  I'm sure there have been similar tests done between 7D and 5D2/3?

yes, the 7D fared among  the worst of all the cameras he tested.  FYI pardon my asssumption of background here, but for those unfamiliar, high standard devition is bad.  7D was 41, 5D3 was 17.

and Marsu42 yes good reality check.

Could it be they had a bad copy of the 7D for testing? I've always remembered my old 7D focusing a bit better than my 60D.

I'm always surprised when people put forth results and a conclusion, and then are surprised when others critically evaluate the methods used to generate those results, and weigh the quality of the methods when evaluating the reliability of the results and the strength of the conclusions. 

Something else to think about.

Makes me think about DXOMark tests

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D Wifi Linking with iPhone 5
« on: December 05, 2012, 09:45:37 PM »
Unless I want to be a spyier, WHY do I want to operate the camera through a cell phone ??? ??? ???

Gotta agree that there are lots of uses for it (funny too because this was a feature I was kind ehhh whatever on when the specs were announced). 

I enjoy night photography!  So, the ability to control long exposures from my phone would rock! 

Also, I was thinking of ways to use it at weddings too, for ceremonies and receptions!  (I do rather like the idea of that!  Especially for the ones where I don't have a second shooter!).  Really there are quite a few possibilities for this feature!

I might be different from you guys.

I rather see 6D offers better AF system, Continuous Autofocus tracking Video likes T4i, faster frame rate, better ergonomics etc....things that can help to improve your IQ.

I wouldn't cry over spilt milk, the camera is out already. And I'm sure the 6D's IQ stays very much slightly the same without your requested features.

What I do seem to notice is that the people who own the camera seem to be enjoying it very much and the ones who don't are criticizing it the most. I already have a 5D Mark III, but I'm really curious about the WiFi feature of the 6D because 1) I hate having to use the adapter to connect my camera to my iPad 3 to review images with clients 2) wireless remote shooting with a screen attached, especially with the size of a tablet screen, is a huge advantage for studio and landscape applications, it will help you focus less on technical issues and more on creativity 3) For an event photographer who needs to get an image over to the projector guy's laptop without having to take your card out sometimes. Heck, you can even take photos of important people at some events and you can send the photo right away without having to go through the hassles of cables and adapters. Throw a watermark on it with your ios or droid app and voila, instant business card with THEIR faces on it.

From a photography perspective you might think of some limitations for the use but you can get really creative on the business end of photography with the WiFi feature. I'm definitely picking this up as a 2nd body. Odds are, I'll be able to shoot jpeg into my 5D Mark III's SD card, throw it into the 6D, and import photos via wifi taken by my main body as well. I think Canon marketing planned this out quite well. (as much as I hate not having wifi built in to the 5D mark III despite understanding the materials used on the top part to weather seal it further will inhibit the signal)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D vs 5D MKII (Focusing?)
« on: December 05, 2012, 01:48:34 AM »
Anything is better than 5D mark I and II outer points.... seriously. If the 6D can focus outer points accurately in decent lighting for portraits (like wide open portraits 2.8 and faster) then I'd be more than happy to pick one up as well.

EOS Bodies / Re: First complete 6D review by a photographer spotted
« on: December 03, 2012, 11:22:18 PM »
I don't consider Kai a photographer.... He runs a different kind of business, hehe. I like to see reviews from people who take photos for a living and aren't in the business of selling products.

Lenses / Re: What's your dream lens
« on: December 03, 2012, 11:20:17 PM »
I own my dream lens, and until they make a mark III it's always going to be the Canon 85mm 1.2L mark II

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D pricing... so much difference worldwide
« on: December 03, 2012, 09:19:43 AM »
75,000 pesos here in the Philippines which equates to about 1829$ (without tax too) Although this is from a reputable online dealer whom I often buy from, not a physical shop.

Canon General / Re: Is canon going to come back?
« on: November 30, 2012, 08:27:09 PM »
For you!
well, "for you" it's only a better camera at low iso and controlled lighting conditions like studio and landscape. If I were you I'd just buy the bloody camera already and stop whining. Or perhaps you should apply for R&D at Nikon because it seems like you're more worried about tech than actual photography.

EOS Bodies / Re: First Round of EOS 7D Mark II Specs [CR1]
« on: November 27, 2012, 12:08:30 AM »
If 10fps is true, I'm also hoping the current 19 point af of the existing 7D can produce enough keepers, if not upgrading the af system a bit as well. I definitely have more keepers on my 1d mark iii for action shooting than I ever did when I shot a 7D which is why I sold it. Although I'm sure IQ is going to be the concern most people will prioritize.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: CompactFlash vs SDXC (Effectively 5D3 vs 6D)
« on: November 26, 2012, 03:15:28 PM »
 With CF it's all about durability and compatibility with pro cameras, speed should be about the same with both. Advantage of sd cards is compatibility in everyday devices like integrated slots in computers, tablets, etc.

Lenses / Re: Don't want to make a rookie mistake
« on: November 26, 2012, 02:53:45 PM »
Everyone always forgets about the 100 f/2....

It's just so similar to the 85mm in every way =P people go for the 85mm because of popularity and it's been very popular as a focal length, for decades. An extra 15mm... Not that big of a deal in the short telephoto range. I remember this from comparing 85mm and 100mm shots from my 70-200 before. Actually, 85mm vs 135mm isn't that big of a difference on crop either when looking through the viewfinder, but only if you can walk back and forth to compensate distance. 100mm is like 85mm to me when shooting closer to infinity. Just my honest opinion.

Lenses / Re: Don't want to make a rookie mistake
« on: November 26, 2012, 02:06:14 PM »
I'd probably leave the 70-200mm f4 IS out of the list, despite it being a very sharp and useful lens.... It just doesn't stop action indoors well enough. You're better off with the 70-200 2.8 with monopod, but personally I'd pick the 135mm f2 for indoor sports (I shot a lot of basketball) because with 85mm I'd always feel like I needed to be closer but couldn't because I didn't want to interrupt the game. But if you can get close enough the 85mm is a really good bang for the buck lens for your situation. Also, with my copies of both I'm very comfortable shooting the 135mm at f2, although when i had the 85mm 1.8 I had a tendency to stop it down to 2.2 or smaller a lot in order to equal the average amount of keepers on my 135L. Again, these were just my copies of those lenses.

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 6D launch and effect on 5D MkII & MKIII
« on: November 26, 2012, 10:32:43 AM »
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the advantages of built in wifi for videographers. We fly a 60D on a crane sometimes and being able to see what I'm recording wirelessly on any of my pocketable screens, or even a tablet will be ground breaking for that kind of work. Or how about those shots where the camera is hidden? I've done a shot with a dslr that was inside a fridge and though its a rare shot, the convenience of less takes is always welcome. Directing via cell phone? Man... I'm betting anything the magic lantern guys are already thinking of ways to play with the wifi function.

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