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Animal Kingdom / Re: Insects
« on: September 13, 2012, 11:22:31 PM »
500D + 100mm F2.8 USM
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my take on this ---
the d600 with those specs and build is no real threat to canon at $2200. If anything, its a bad move on nikons part because the price gap between it and the d800 is too low. [...]
I think its a shot across the bow of the 5D III, at a introductory price of US$2100 from 3 US different retailers.
is the 5D III worth the approximate $800 difference? To me - no.
Can a 6D be "Canonized" (i.e. crippled enough) to not threaten the 5DIII and complete with the D600? I don't know and i'm afraid to know!
I can't wait to find out
The d800 is the shot across the bow I think. I own and love my 5d3, for the work I do it's a pretty amazing tool. Native ISO to 6400 on the D600, Native on the 5d3 is 25,600 ---and shots are totally usable up to 12,800, and potentially usable even higher than that. To me, that's worth a lot. Weather sealing ---none on the d600. Buffer on the mk3 is already superior to the d800, and I'm guessing that will continue through to the d600. I just don't see this camera really canabalizing sales from either the d800 or the 5d3 - basically because the vast majority who buy this probably wouldn't be buying either the d800 or the 5d3 anyways. In short, this camera neither interests nor worries me (and I was kind of hoping it would, there is a part of me that wouldn't mind having a nikon body just so i can have and use that damn 14-24!!!!!)
In camera cropping would be usefull if it came with a boost in FPSGood point. Hadn't thought about that. But then again I never shoot anything but raw. Speed is definitely not a huge concern to me.
I enjoyed the G12 while it lasted. Had it in a softcase, placed it on the seat of my motorcycle for a moment, bumped it with my arm and it fell to the ground (my fault) and the flip out screen never worked again. The seat height is 32 inches. The quote to fix it was almost half the price of a new one. Yikes. Let's hope the G15s are built a little tougher.
It's getting pretty tempting to leave Canon. I never thought I'd say that!
Um, well... I can't say I would agree with you on that. I have once said I will never, NEVER, switch to Nikon, ever, period! And I feel the same way today as I did then.
Anyway that being said, as beautiful of a camera the 5D2 is, it is due for an upgrade. I can only assume that Canon will blow the D600 away by making the best full frame "compact" DSLR anyone has ever seen! I just hope the rumors of a "cheaper" plastic body is false, like the one found on the 60D. Yuck! If it has a metal body like the 5D2 or 7D, I would have to consider buying one.
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I agree, but some people here talk like threatening to switch if canon doesn't create a camera according to their standards... I'm like, really?!?
Whiners... whiners... whiners....
Camera manufacturers cannot please everybody, SMH
Quit complaining and switch to your preferred brand. NO one is going to stop you.
Well, it's better to talk of something than talk of nothing. Anyway, it's all about rumors. There are other sections in this forum btw. It's not all about whining.
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Actually I envy them whining about their 5D3, 5D2, 1DX, 1D4. WTH, I'm still working my way to my very first full frame.But I can see something good out of this. Maybe, Canon will hear these and strive to upgrade their products more. Well, we can whine, take photos, discuss techniques, and discuss the photos that we've taken. At least there's a variety of what we can talk about.
Whiners... whiners... whiners....
Camera manufacturers cannot please everybody, SMH
Quit complaining and switch to your preferred brand. NO one is going to stop you.
The 5D3's AF takes a wet dump on the d600. They shouldn't even be compared here, now the d800 on ther other hand... That's the real competition to the 5D3.
D600 isn't competing with 5D3. There are more than $1K reasons why...
Because its 1k$ more camera.
I know the difference isn't that much, but there it is.
Thanks for the link. Clicking on the RAW Comparison subtab, scrolling down, Imaging Resource states, "As you can see, the Canon T4i performs very similar to the T3i, though detail in the red leaf cloth isn't quite as good (something we also saw in camera JPEGs)." So, you were correct in that there is a slight difference...except the T4i/650D actually seems to be a little worse, not better, compared to the T3i (7D sensor).What I'm trying to say is that it used to be that 7D speed, AF and weather seal are enough to justify its cost for me but now with the newer 650D it almost isn't the case anymore or shall we say it's already due for replacement. Sure for sports or bird photographers like you, 7D might still be a better alternative or 2nd body but not for me or everyone else involved in other types of photography. To add, money is also an object for somebody like me but not to professionals like you so my opinion on this matter. Anyway, thanks for the advise on being happy with my 500D. It makes sense.
Well, the 7D is over three years old now. But still, the IQ is equivalent to the 650D, the AF is substantially better, and the build is way better.
One key thing for me, and a big part of the reason I upgraded from a T1i/500D to a 7D in the first place, is AF Microadjustment. I shoot with fast primes, and the lack of AFMA can be a real problem in that case. You either need to get lucky, be willing to buy and return multiple copies of a lens, or be willing to send lens(es) and body into Canon for adjustment. Personally, I'll never buy a camera that lacks AFMA. Now, I'm not going to buy one, but the D600 does have AFMA. If Canon omit that from an entry-level FF body (as the omitted it from the 60D, despite having it in the 50D), that will be a serious error, IMO.