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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Shooting With the EOS 6D in Costa Rica
« on: December 26, 2012, 04:54:52 AM »
I haven't heard of many normal people(with maybe one aging aps-c body and one or two lenses) choosing the 6D, only pro's and serious enthusiasts who just want a new Canon toy.
Depends what you mean by "normal", I guess, but I went from a Rebel XT to the 6D. Oh, and- yeah, not counting the Rebel's kit lens, I only had a 40mm pancake and EF75-300...
The 6D was never intended to better the 5D3.  It's fills a niche between the 5D3 and 7D in the EOS portfolio.  Those who are trashing it for not meeting or exceeding the 5D3's specs don't seem to understand that.
I fully understand that. But for Canon to leave out the 7D AF or better in a time(2012 not 2009) when nearly every Nikon has a better AF was pretty weak. All the new Nikon updates have at least a 39pt AF while Canon is still offering the same 9pt AF system that was lame when the 5D II came out years ago. For me, it wasn't impressive at all, especially for the launch price.
I'm sure lots of people disagree with me and are happy with the center point AF, but for me, I was over it. I already had a Canon 5D and the only problem was the ISO and the AF.
I waited for the 6D for a while as I have been wanting a lighter FF body for years(I travel a lot,) but when the specs were announced it was way too easy for me to not be interested in the camera, especially for $2100 dollars.

Then good for you.  If you really need better AF, then by all means go for D600.  However if you are only considering a Canon system such as most of us here, 6D or 5D3 is the way to go.  And don't tell us that "normal" people would go for a D600 instead.  I for one is considering going for 6D or 5D3 depending on my available budget by next year.  I'm a TI1 user and it didn't even crossed my mind to jumping to Nikon.  I guess I love my lenses so much.  Camera bodies come and go.  Sometimes it's Nikon on top and sometimes Canon but lenses will always be there for you to use even after several years.  Well I guess either you're very rich to invest in lenses from one system to another or you just need several lenses.  Well, each to his own...

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 officially discontinued.
« on: December 24, 2012, 11:37:30 AM »
Strange how the mk2 became so iconic when it is only a mk1 with 23 % increase in resolution ( which 90% of users didn't need ) and video ( which 90% of users didn't need ). When we got our first mk2 at Building Panos we thought the video was amazing, but very quickly found a proper video camera was much better for any  casual video that we wanted. The video function on the mk2's hasn't been used for years in our case.

Obviously it's a very capable camera for many applications, but then so was the Mk 1.

The mk3 deserves to achieve this iconic status because it broad range of capabilities is truly impressive  :)

ISO and IQ are a lot better than mark I.  The cheap video capability is also a big plus.  Maybe for your case you don't find 5D2 video great but here in Asia, 5D2 video capability is pretty much used especially by wedding photographers, videographers because it is less expensive than videocams and serve a dual purpose.  True, they also use a video camera but it is too expensive to have multiple videocam.  The best course is to have one main videocam and have several 5D2 to cover multiple perspectives.  Even until now, they are still used pretty much by a lot of wedding and event photographers.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Shooting With the EOS 6D in Costa Rica
« on: December 24, 2012, 05:53:54 AM »
I shoot with the Canon products, a 5D Mark III to be exact.  I also shoot with their professional camcorders.  That being said, I have to say that as a former Nikon user, the Nikon cameras provided a much sharper shot.  Don't get me wrong, I love my Mark III but honestly, it leaves me wanting more.  There are many cameras out there that are arguably better.  The Canon 6D is not one of those cameras.  That's not to suggest that it is a bad camera but, it is not better.  The picture taken in Costa Rica that was posted is not a very good picture in terms of quality.  The composition is good but the quality is typical of what I have seen from non-professional users.  More specifically, the picture lacks sharpness throughout and for whatever reason is not properly focused; however this is probably due to user error and not a deficiency within the camera.

This is more properly called viewer error, not user error.  The photo is perfectly focused on the child.  Exif indicates the photo was shot at f/2.8, so the background is understandably out of focus.

:)  +1.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5d2 officially discontinued.
« on: December 24, 2012, 03:51:31 AM »

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 22, 2012, 12:30:48 AM »
And i'll be pissed when the 6D drops to $1600 by summer.  Oh well.  That's why I don't bother looking at the price again of a product once I purchase it.  Too depressing.

Then why not buy it only by summer?  You've still got the very good Ti1.  :)

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 22, 2012, 12:02:37 AM »
but if it hurts your fanboy feelings when people dare to say that canon gear is overpriced... i beg your pardon but that´s what many people think.
It is overpriced but it is our choice whether to buy or not and what item to buy and when. So what's the point of whining?

+1 on overpriced but that's because they can.  There are third party lenses and even Nikon or Sony if you're not satisfied with Canon's pricing.

Lenses / Re: Sigma 50 1.4 or canon 85 1.8
« on: December 21, 2012, 11:35:35 PM »
For portrait work on APS-C, I'd choose the 85mm F1.8.  I don't trust third party brands that much.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 11:07:50 PM »
My biggest complaint about what Canon has been dishing out with their DSLR's in the past 5yrs or so, is that you can almost depend that they are not going to work right out of the box. You need to wait for several firmware upgrades, and even then the problem may not be fixed. I was VERY discouraged when my 40D stopped working due to a bad shutter after a couple of years. As I read more about that particular problem, it was pretty common. Thats not good.

And dont get me started on their lenses. They continue to lag behind third party lenses. Even after the mkll and mklll attempts!

:)  Working right out of the box, they will.  Problem is they might have bugs.  Just the same with a lot of cameras and even program applications.  Most of it are from software which is created by imperfect human beings.  I understand that part because I'm a programmer also.  I know programs as much as we wanted them to be perfect are prone to human errors.  Maybe you are complaining of 5D3?  As for your 40D, how many years are we talking about and how many actuation?  40D has a rated shutter life of 100K +/-.  If shutter failed within warranty period, they replace it.   As for the lenses, maybe their lenses lag in some areas but are still comparable to competition.  I think your only gripe should be at the prices.  That and their UWA offerings.  Only Nikon has a better one and Samyang (in some ways) though without AF.  Almost all their short focal length with IS iteration are good to excellent.   What I'm really happy with Canon is their after-sales support.  I can get free sensor cleaning and AF adjustment (since my 500D doesn't have AFMA).

Lenses / Re: Lens choice advice please??
« on: December 21, 2012, 09:00:42 AM »
All, thank you so much for your advice so far.

I suppose the reality is I just cant afford a FF, so has to be APS-C unfortunately.

So, looking at the feedback I'm moving towards either:

- Used Canon EF 24mm f/2.8 - Used approx. £180 eBay.
- Used Canon EF 28mm f/1.8 - Used approx. £130 eBay.

A Used Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 - Used approx. £70 eBay. : Agreed, on an APS-C, this isn't particularly wide so likely to give this a miss, despite seeing the multitude of nice images from this lens.

I understand there are many other brands (SIGMA, Older lens needing adapters), my only problem is that I just wouldn't know where to start, what brand to trust. Am I right in thinking...stick to Canon because I know I can trust them?

Also, I do understand my budget is tight for what I want so sorry if this is a little frustrating, but we all want to make the best choice for the money we spend don't we....the biggest bang for our buck!

Thanks once again!

Yup, most logical wider angle choices given your crop body and the budget! And what's more, when you do move to FF, they both will still work and are rather decent lenses. EF 28mm f1.8 also has a cult following recently since video came along, so all things considered both are good choices. Good luck!

Go for a 28mm F1.8 + 50mm F1.8.  They are nice combo with APS-C.  The 28mm isn't soft if you stop down to at least F2.2.  Here are some sample pictures with the 50mm and the 28mm:

50mm @ F1.8

28mm @ F2.2

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 08:42:21 AM »
You should be on the other thread "right now i am not happy to be a canon user" and you two can have a pitty party.  Booo hooo hooo hoo !!!!

Still stunned that people complain about spending their money. Damn Canon... they forced me to buy a great camera and now, months later, I don't like the price I paid because I couldn't wait. They screwed me!!!! Whaaaa whaaa... Adults make decisions about where to spend their money... you have no one to blame but yourself if you have buyer’s remorse. If you can't afford the price of entry and it's a financial hardship... you shouldn't be spending money you don’t have.

I could afford what I paid, I even held out about 4 months after release to see if the price would move, it did not, so I bought it.  Then the price starts falling.  I could afford it, I just don't like wasting money that could have been spent on other gear.

Again... buyers remorse. You should have waited until the mark 7 comes out, then you can score a mark 3 for for under 500$ on Ebay... in 2022! What I don't understand is how this is a "new" thing for some here. Like you were totally unaware there will be a price drop... A search of the threads on this forum will show that even before a new version comes out someone is asking "How long until the price drops on model X?"

I bought a 7D in 2009... I'm soooo pissed at the current price!!! Canon is horrible to lower the price that much. I wasted sooo much money. If only I had waited 3 years. The reality is that I bought the camera new and have enjoyed every single moment with it during this time... I was NOT ripped off. I put on my big boy pants, bought the camera and went out and took photos. I knew exactly what I was doing and I did not open a thread complaing about how evil Canon marketing is. 

Take some solace in the fact that after the 21st you won’t have to wallow in the shame of spending more than you think you should have. Have a Happy Mayan New year!!!

You are talking 3 YEARS on the 7d price drop.  I'm talking 3 months and its 20% cheaper, and I waited 3-4 months after release to see if it would fall due to the comments I read. That's quite a bit of difference in such a short time span.  A toons are louder than words and as I stated on won't be buying anything else until at least a year after initial launch.  I'm a hobbyist, so "jobs" mean nothing to me as far as recouping that early adopter surcharge that many of you mention.

You have to look at rival companies also like Nikon.  Somehow, Canon needs to keep up with them or else they lose some chunk of the market.  If Nikon brings down their prices aggressively, look for Canon to bring down theirs also.  That's the nature of business.  It doesn't matter if it's 3 months or 1 month.  All that matters is that their price is at least competitive in the market.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 08:21:36 AM »
Nikon realized they need to hook customers first before they can sell a lot.  If they can bait enough from emerging clients from Asia, they will have a good customer base in the future.  Once somebody is invested in a system, most of the time, they tend to stick to that system.   I guess that's the reason of the current aggressive pricing of their camera bodies.  Canon should be careful.  Trends like these are like diseases.  It will grow if you don't cut it.  I also think that's the reason of Canon's action regarding prices.  Once they've seen the competition, they are forced to bring down also their prices.  I guess they're just trying to milk the market first during initial product launch then they bring down prices as soon as they can see some fluctuation from their sales figures.  That's why it is always prudent to wait.

EOS Bodies / Re: Canon Cannot Keep Screwing It's Customers Over
« on: December 21, 2012, 12:45:54 AM »
Sometimes, it's also the first adopters fault.  I'm not saying Canon doesn't get any blame on why prices are not stable.  Law of supply and demand states that the more the demand, the higher the cost of the goods especially if supply can't cope up.  Well, it's a "sickness" actually.  It's very contagious.  I guess, if you really want good prices for Canon (as with non-Canon) gadgets and have it clean and bug-free, it's better to wait at least 3-6 months before buying one.  I always restrain myself on buying the "newest" and the "best" gadgets.  I had a policy for myself.  If I really want something, I must be prepared to wait.  Sometimes the urge just goes away after a night or two.  If even after 6 months the itch is still there then it means I really want it.  As of now, I'm really asking myself if I really want the 6D or the 5D3.  Sometimes, one look at my pictures and I reminded myself that it's not the camera that counts.  It's the man behind the camera.  I've got a lot of friends with newer cameras than my old 500D but they're always asking me why they can't get pictures that they wanted the way I got mine even with all their new gadgets.  I just told them that experience is irreplaceable.  Just take your camera and shoot irregardless if it's old or new.  The pleasure I get from photography is always from the feeling I get after viewing the pictures that I have taken and not after viewing the camera or lens that I used to take them.  I'm sorry but I'm always pissed at seeing people with better gadgets and yet they are still complaining.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Excellent Nikon D600
« on: December 20, 2012, 11:05:02 PM »
I´m very sorry, but the D600 is excellent!
I had no mid-range Camera in my hands that was as good as the D600. (using an non high-quality lens!)

Maybe I will store my Canon lenses and buy an D600.
It is a pity, but Canon does not reach the quality of the D600.  :'(
The AF is equal to the AF of the 5D Mark 3. And the picturequality not much worser then the 5D´s.... Tha AF-area is quite smaller, but accurate in getting sharp

Go for it if you can afford it.  Right now, Nikon bodies are a little bit better than Canon.  Shifting from one system to another system is easy if you can afford it.  But you will be investing in new lenses again.  Might it be better to invest in other Canon lenses?

could be, but I like what I am seeing more on the galaxy camera.  It's the form factor I guess.  Lens and sensor wise, the galaxy camera has more potential than the iphone 5.  I don't like camera inside a smartphone that much.  I like more a smartphone inside a camera if you catch my drift.

Third Party Manufacturers / Samsung Galaxy Camera: Smartphone + real Camera
« on: December 20, 2012, 08:48:43 PM »
I was just amazed at the current innovation.  This is a real camera/phone that photographers should be happy about.  It may not be complete yet (not yet fully a smartphone, can't make voice calls) but it's sure a good start.  I just hope they increase the camera sensor size to at least 1/1.7 with the next iteration.  As of now, some dslr-like functionality (full manual control on ISO, Aperture, and Shutter speed) are already incorporated in it.  It's lens is a 23mm equivalent on a 35mm camera though max aperture is 2.8.  I hope they increase it to 1.8.


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