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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D hands-on reviews by many websites..
« on: December 10, 2012, 04:53:21 AM »
Professional Sports/journalism/wildlife: 1D X
Professional Studio/portrait/landscape: 1Ds Mark III
Professional Weddings/multipurpose camera: 5D Mark III
Amateur Sports/wildlife or for a Pro instead of a TC: 7D
Amateur Portrait/Landscape: 6D

If you want to lock the focus in extreme low light:
1. choice: 1D X
2. choice: 5D Mark III
3. 6D.

The 1D X and 5D Mark III can lock the focus in low light while the 6D is giving up.

Outer focus points, yes.  Center, no.  Enough of these "amateur" categories.  A lot of professionals were shooting and still are shooting with 5D2 which we can say is beaten/on par on almost all camera features by 6D.  I'm sorry but I disagree with you when you put 6D as an amateur camera.  I can even remember when all cameras were still using MF and yet those cameras were not considered amateur by anybody.

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Lenses / Re: 50mm macro vs. 60mm macro on aps-c body
« on: December 10, 2012, 04:36:32 AM »
Sell your 60mm and get the 100mm F2.8 macro USM non-L (much better than 60mm and 50mm macro lenses).  This lens will fit both your APS-C and FF bodies.  You'll be able to get this lens at almost half of the price of the L version and IQ is pretty much the same.  If you want some samples, you can go to my flickr account.  My pictures might fail to give justice on how marvelous this lens is but it will give you at least some idea of what I'm saying.  I'm currently using Canon 500D body and the 100mm macro non-L lens.  And don't worry, it's  also an excellent portrait lens.  I forgot, 60mm and 100mm price difference is only around $100.   ;)

Just some of my favorites from my collection...






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Lenses / Re: Best lenses for canon 5D mark iii or 6D
« on: December 10, 2012, 04:25:43 AM »
About 8 months ago he posted that he was going to fix up and sell for $20,000 a GMC truck that his father was giving him for HS graduation. They were to split the profit. Maybe that is the $8,000 budget and the truck hasn't sold yet.

OTOH, maybe he is dreaming and posts in his sleep ;D

Let him dream...  I myself I'm dreaming I have a Nikon D800E.  Oh well, but reality is I'm stuck with Canon and I don't have the money yet to buy an FF.  So I just keep on dreaming while taking pictures with my 500D.   ;D

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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 5D Mark III Frustrated Focusing problem
« on: December 10, 2012, 03:36:30 AM »
OP has deleted his account.  :o

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Nice pics...  Though if it were me, I'd apply a little bit of EV compensation and a little bit of warmth but that's my preference.  Some would prefer it just as you had rendered it.

I think 6D will be perfect for your 70-200 especially since your preference is portraiture.  I'd suggest though to get a proper portrait lens in order to maximize 6D/FF bokehliciousness.  An 85mm F1.8 or 100mm F2 comes immediately to mind especially if you're mindful of your budget.  Otherwise, 85mm F1.2L and 135mm F2.0L are better alternatives.  Any FF body will shine in portraits and landscape.

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Canon General / Re: What real Pros shoot...
« on: December 09, 2012, 10:35:57 PM »

It's my understanding that Reuters' tool of trade, supplied to and used by their staff photographers, is Canon.


How did you come to that understanding?  Can you give us some link or proof?  We want to be enlightened also.  I wonder about those photogs in Reuters that weren't using Canon.  Maybe, they are rebels...  oops... that's Canon.  :D


I thought it was common knowledge but now that you ask, I can only offer circumstantial evidence. I've seen images of various Reuters inventory over the years and as far as I recall, it has always been Canon, though I'm happy to be corrected. You may recall Reuters' 1DX motorised rigs for the Olympic swimming, and here's an inventory sample from the royal wedding.



If you search "reuters photographer" on Youtube, you'll be hard-pressed to find Reuters stickers on anything other than Canon gear. They do have a Nikon 1200-1700mm zoom but even that is converted to a Canon fit.

http://blogs.reuters.com/blog/archives/8068


I'm just playing around... :)  But I've got this friend who's a field reporter for Reuters in Philippines.  She just told me that Reuters photogs prefers Canon bodies just because they already have a lot of Canon lenses collected since the time Canon first adopted AF.  They didn't mind changing to other system because of that.  Some new photogs are using Nikon but not much since they can't take advantage of some lenses that are available already to them.  I guess you can say that they don't mind the brand.  What they really mind is that there's an equipment they can use right away.

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Canon General / Re: What real Pros shoot...
« on: December 09, 2012, 08:06:05 PM »
Just to play devils advocate here. The most used knives in the world of professional chefs are Victorinox, and that has not much to do with excellence in steel or sharpness. It has to do with the fact that Victorinox has been very successful in pushing out knives set (suitcases with basic, intermidiate, and advanced sets) to pretty much cooking students all over :) They can get away with a basic suitcase for the same price as two Kai Shun knives...

That is why I am wondering if the preponderance of Canon in the stats is due to a commercial arrangement between Reuters and Canon.  For instance, does Reuters have an arrangement with Canon, which gives Reuters staff access to preferential pricing from Canon?

It's my understanding that Reuters' tool of trade, supplied to and used by their staff photographers, is Canon.

How did you come to that understanding?  Can you give us some link or proof?  We want to be enlightened also.  I wonder about those photogs in Reuters that weren't using Canon.  Maybe, they are rebels...  oops... that's Canon.  :D

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: Upgrade from 7D to 6D or MK3?
« on: December 09, 2012, 05:05:28 AM »
If you need superior AF, 5D3 will do it.  6D if you don't need the extra superior AF performance.  For studio, street and landscape, definitely, 6D.  Macro, it depends on what you are shooting.  If sports 5D3 or 1DX.   For bird shots, you might want to wait for 7D2.

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...I will have a 60D and 6D tomorrow for some rough analysis.

Let me know what you think of the way 6D renders colors and lighting dynamics. Now that I've moved on from testing to actual pictures, I am not liking what I am seeing in this respect. I'm shooting RAW and the the 6D files have a very different character than do 5D2 files imo, and not in a good way.

Can you please expound on this?  We want to know what's the difference...  And try using the updated DPP if possible when converting the 6D and 5D2 files.  The jpeg rendering of other software might not be as updated.

Thanks.

I'll try to explain using subjective terms and maybe a technical measurement or two.

To my eyes, everything is underexposed a significant amount and this is verified when looking at the RGB histogram in Capture One. Left side is towards the top and then a smooth slope to zero on the right for typical outdoor shots. Equivalent shots with 5D2 are exposed the way I'd expect and hisotgram is more level with some peaks, as expected.

Color renditions are flat and lifeless to my eyes. This is true just comparing equivalent shots from 5D2 and 6D and looking at the RAWs. Same holds true after working with them in Capture One. Let me put it this way: in adequate light, I'd take my 50D over the 6D in a heartbeat for exposure, color rendition and DR (as lacking as 50D was in DR)...the equvalent shots just look a lot better to my eyes.

I know there is a bunch of chatter about how 6D has better DR, but when shooting it seems the exact opposite and shadows are going black with no detail in the RAWs.

It's hard to quantify this sort of thing, but when I first got my 5D2 I was pleasantly stunned how good any shot looked. It's just the opposite with 6D for me and I'm stunned how un-Canon like all of my shots were. Yes, were. As in its boxed up to go back in exchange for a 5D3.

And I suppose that sums it up for me. As you can see in my earlier posts, I was happy as could be with the AF and low light when I tested it. But then when I started shooting it, it became quickly apparent I'd be sending it back and just spending the extra $ for a 5D3. And for me anyway, I'll spend $400 extra over the eBay price to buy it from B&H so I have no doubt it will have a warranty and I can send it back if I have an issue like I did with the 6D I bought from them...

Of course this is all just my opinion and YMMV. Maybe I got a dud, but bottom line is I'm going 5D3 instead.

Have you tried using DPP?  I don't think Capture One is updated already to handle raw files from 6D.  Just like Lightroom needs an update or a new profile just to handle other new bodies.  WTH, even DPP needs an update to correctly render raw files from new bodies.  Agreed, maybe you got a bum copy because, I have never seen anyone complain about the DR/IQ of 6D except for underexposing which could be easily adjusted by Canon Support if needed. 

Anyway, good choice.  I'd always say, if you think you've got the money to afford a 5D3, then go for it.  Granted it's more expensive but it's more versatile.  However, for some, I think it will be 6D.  I've got a friend who just got a 6D yesterday.  Hopefully, he brings it to office tomorrow so I can see it and maybe compare it with some cameras from our group.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« on: December 08, 2012, 02:49:13 AM »
Go for 6D if IQ is more important than reach and your budget can't reach the 5D3.  6D + lens + AF = 5D3 + AF.  You decide what's more important and what you really need.  7D2 only if you need the extra reach and FPS.

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Lenses / Re: 17-40L vs 24-105L
« on: December 08, 2012, 02:36:52 AM »
In my humble opinion, for landscapes, go for 17-40L.  24-105L is used mainly as an all-purpose lens.  Since you have a 50mm, just use it as your normal lens but you will have to "zoom" with your feet.  It really depends on your style of shooting.  I myself, I'm shooting with 500D.  I have a 28mm (comparable to 50mm for FF) and it's my travel lens.  I have a 100mm macro and 55-250 as my primary "long" lens if needed.  I'm planning to get the 17-40 and the 70-300L later with the 6D as I plan to move to FF.

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...I will have a 60D and 6D tomorrow for some rough analysis.

Let me know what you think of the way 6D renders colors and lighting dynamics. Now that I've moved on from testing to actual pictures, I am not liking what I am seeing in this respect. I'm shooting RAW and the the 6D files have a very different character than do 5D2 files imo, and not in a good way.

Can you please expound on this?  We want to know what's the difference...  And try using the updated DPP if possible when converting the 6D and 5D2 files.  The jpeg rendering of other software might not be as updated.

Thanks.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D Wifi Linking with iPhone 5
« on: December 07, 2012, 07:01:41 PM »
Unless I want to be a spyier, WHY do I want to operate the camera through a cell phone ??? ??? ???

To understand and use any feature of a camera (including WiFi linking 6D with a smartphone), one needs imagination ... the first prerequisite of any photographer.


As a wedding photographer, how do you compose your shots when your camera is already on the tripod and you operate through a phone from distance?

I am not a professional wedding photographer but I did take photos at my niece's wedding earlier this year and the following is what I had done:
I used 2 cameras, a 5D MK III handheld and a 60D on a tripod. At our Church the parish priest does not allow photographers to come behind him (while the couple are facing him) during Mass, offertory and other Catholic rituals (which goes on for about 90 minutes). So I got the priest's approval to set a tripod (with my 60D) discreetly placed behind him. I used a 10 inch Asus Iconia tablet connected to my 60D with a 20 foot USB cable (running under the church carpet) and remotely triggered the camera with an android program called "RYC USB Pro". I chose a wide angle lens so I could change the AF to capture the couples expressions and sometimes the audience expressions. I took over two dozen memorable photos the professional photographer (who was hired to do the wedding photography) could not capture because the priest would not allow him to be at certain places. I would have preferred if it was totally wireless, like the WiFi feature on 6D, so I didn't have to worry about someone tripping on exposed parts of the USB cable.

Granted that the WiFi feature may not always be ideal for every single situation but everything has a time and place. But a little imagination wouldn't hurt. Sometimes I wonder what Adam Ansel and other great photographers before him would have thought of all the immature cribbing that goes on these days about every little feature on a camera that someone does not use or like. I plan to sell my 60D and get the 6D in about 2 or 3 months time because of the WiFi feature and of course the full frame advantage ... I can already imagine myself using my iPhone strapped to my hand (facing towards me) while I am taking photos above a crowd or placing the 6D near a bird nest and remotely triggering the camera from a distance ... so many possibilities, only if we are willing to use some IMAGINATION! IMAGINATION! IMAGINATION!


Again....this type of shootings are use in "spying", without compositions. Let me guess, you do composition in PP with crop.


I tend to agree with Rienz.  Anything is better than nothing.  Another example.  Having a camera on a pole where you can control composition but can't set manually the exposure or focus is just one of WIFI's uses.  Granted you can do this with more sophisticated accessories but WIFI just makes them easier.  As Rienz said, it's just about imaginationYou have it, use it.  Tools are there to be utilized.  Only your imagination limits you.

How about sending your camera underneath a remote helicopter and flying it while remotely controlling exposure and focus?  I agree, it's too dumb because it's too risky and expensive to do.  But we know that soon, there will somebody crazy enough to do it.   ;D


Mount a 6D on tripod to capture an ave Joe's shot doesn't require much imagination.

If you just thought about DSLR on Heli.....you little behind. Guess what kinda of DSLR on that heli? I'll give you a hint = NOT 6D, a cheap $200 DSLR that I bought on CL without WiFi....use your imagination


So does this disprove the usability of a WIFI in 6D?  I think you only gave an alternative.  And guess what, if this is the limit of your imagination, then we can't say anything anymore.  In the meantime, I strongly oppose limiting ourselves with these kind of shots.  Imagination of a photographer should be boundless.  You can't put a limit of what you can do.  When you do that then that's the time you stop growing.  As artists, we have to think and take all perspectives.

Here's something where you can remote control pan and tilt head. (This is just experimental but certainly have the potential.)  Add to this the possibility of remote controlling focus and exposure of your camera, you have a very good camera system where you can put it anywhere.  It can give you different perspectives aside from those hard-to-get shots and it has all the FULL FRAME goodness of the 6D.  You can even preview your shots before taking it.

http://www.instructables.com/id/Remote-Controlled-Pan-and-Tilt-Head/

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EOS Bodies / Re: Canon 6D Wifi Linking with iPhone 5
« on: December 07, 2012, 04:17:56 AM »
Unless I want to be a spyier, WHY do I want to operate the camera through a cell phone ??? ??? ???
To understand and use any feature of a camera (including WiFi linking 6D with a smartphone), one needs imagination ... the first prerequisite of any photographer.

As a wedding photographer, how do you compose your shots when your camera is already on the tripod and you operate through a phone from distance?
I am not a professional wedding photographer but I did take photos at my niece's wedding earlier this year and the following is what I had done:
I used 2 cameras, a 5D MK III handheld and a 60D on a tripod. At our Church the parish priest does not allow photographers to come behind him (while the couple are facing him) during Mass, offertory and other Catholic rituals (which goes on for about 90 minutes). So I got the priest's approval to set a tripod (with my 60D) discreetly placed behind him. I used a 10 inch Asus Iconia tablet connected to my 60D with a 20 foot USB cable (running under the church carpet) and remotely triggered the camera with an android program called "RYC USB Pro". I chose a wide angle lens so I could change the AF to capture the couples expressions and sometimes the audience expressions. I took over two dozen memorable photos the professional photographer (who was hired to do the wedding photography) could not capture because the priest would not allow him to be at certain places. I would have preferred if it was totally wireless, like the WiFi feature on 6D, so I didn't have to worry about someone tripping on exposed parts of the USB cable.

Granted that the WiFi feature may not always be ideal for every single situation but everything has a time and place. But a little imagination wouldn't hurt. Sometimes I wonder what Adam Ansel and other great photographers before him would have thought of all the immature cribbing that goes on these days about every little feature on a camera that someone does not use or like. I plan to sell my 60D and get the 6D in about 2 or 3 months time because of the WiFi feature and of course the full frame advantage ... I can already imagine myself using my iPhone strapped to my hand (facing towards me) while I am taking photos above a crowd or placing the 6D near a bird nest and remotely triggering the camera from a distance ... so many possibilities, only if we are willing to use some IMAGINATION! IMAGINATION! IMAGINATION!

Again....this type of shootings are use in "spying", without compositions. Let me guess, you do composition in PP with crop.

I tend to agree with Rienz.  Anything is better than nothing.  Another example.  Having a camera on a pole where you can control composition but can't set manually the exposure or focus is just one of WIFI's uses.  Granted you can do this with more sophisticated accessories but WIFI just makes them easier.  As Rienz said, it's just about imagination.  You have it, use it.  Tools are there to be utilized.  Only your imagination limits you.

How about sending your camera underneath a remote helicopter and flying it while remotely controlling exposure and focus?  I agree, it's too dumb because it's too risky and expensive to do.  But we know that soon, there will somebody crazy enough to do it.   ;D

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Lenses / Re: Best lenses for canon 5D mark iii or 6D
« on: December 07, 2012, 12:30:27 AM »
5D3 + 17-40L + 50 F1.4 + 85 F1.2L + 200mm F2L + 100mm USM L/non-L.

UWA - with 5D3, no need for a F2.8.  Almost same performance with 16-35 from F5.6 up (unless you are really into low, low-light).
Normal lens - nice IQ, light, good AF, versatile enough for low-light.
Portrait - arguably best portrait lens (with the 135L) or the 100mm F2.
Tele - not as versatile as 70-200 but good IQ performance.
Macro - 100mm USM L or non-L.  This or invest the money in getting a 70-200.

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