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EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: December 13, 2012, 05:36:43 AM »
Please help me understand why people are excited about 6D? I cannot be excited about 97% VF, 1 x-pt AF, crippled 6D with wifi and facebook buttons. I will stick to a 5-year-old beloved 5D Mark II which is identical in IQ to Canon's newest sensors. Canon, you are not getting a dime of my money on your recent cameras. I have diversified my lenses so am not hostage to inferior sensors anymore.


But i will switch to Nikon. Where i live the difference between Nikon D800 and 6D is around $500, the Nikon D600 is cheaper than 6D.

All the best with your switch.  In some countries, 6D is more expensive while in others just like ours, it's cheaper.  Just remember that you also need to switch lenses.  It should also be expensive to switch unless you're still not yet invested in Canon lenses.

6D Sample Images / Re: Anything shot with a 6D
« on: December 13, 2012, 05:33:04 AM »
Very nice DR...

Lenses / Re: Canon EF 50 f/1.4 IS in 2013 [CR2]
« on: December 13, 2012, 03:30:01 AM »
shooting at 1.4... just looks amateurish

this is something new to me :o

For video, going super shallow is cool, but so easily overdone, and has become a 'special effect' with DSLR video these days that's often used too much, with no regards to keeping anything particularly in focus to show off bokeh.
I like shallow, but for subject separation or for a nice dreamy feel when needed, but not for an excuse for poor composition, you can't just keep a single point in focus and ignore how the overall image is composed.
If you need 1.4 for the light, then that's certainly great if IS is part of the package too, but one is better off with a fast wide angle for lowlight video anyways

I think what's amateurish is when you use something you don't know how to use.  Having a capability of an aperture of 1.4 certainly isn't amateurish.  It's how you use it.  Your explanation didn't prove 1.4 as amateurish.

Lenses / Re: Help me choose: EF lens for 60D
« on: December 13, 2012, 02:48:36 AM »
With that budget, you can go for a 16-35mm F2.8L II or a 17-40L.  They're quite capable in a crop body as a walk-around lens and you can still use them later if you're going FF.  At least when you go FF, you've already got a UWA and a normal lens.  All's left is getting a 70-200 or 70-300 lens, a portrait lens (if you need one) and a macro lens(also if you need one).  :)

Lenses / Re: Best Value "Normal" Lens for 6d?
« on: December 13, 2012, 02:36:54 AM »
50 1.8! can't go wrong with the thrify-fifty.

i used the 50 1.8 for a couple of years when i started my career.  great lens...until i got it killed...

This is one really, really good lens.  If I'm to start all over again and I don't have lots of money to spend (even now, I'm still that way... :D), I'd gladly start with a 5D + 50mm F1.8 II + some external flash.

I would like to keep my 60D of I got a 6D, but have a feeling im too poor for that option haha. Im still thinking about a 5dMkII but im a sucker for high-iso Low-noise.

Hmmm... why not, sell the 60D, get the 6D then get a G15?  Since I doubt that you're into fast moving sports, a G15 with its super fast lens (F1.8... wow!) will enable you to get good quality pictures for those times that you leave your 6D at home...  Currently I have a 500D + G11.  I'm planning to get a 6D and give my wife the 500D.  The G11, we can share between ourselves.  Sometimes, I leave my DSLR at home and just brings the G11 due to convenience.  In good light, I can still take very nice pictures of my daughter and do some macros and landscape with it.

EOS Bodies / Re: Are you really serious about 6D?
« on: December 13, 2012, 12:27:19 AM »
If you're using 5D2, I can't see you upgrading to 6D.  However for a rebel user, a 6D is very appealing.  WTH, some of these shots were taken with Nikon D200.  For me, brand doesn't matter.  Even your camera body doesn't matter that much.  Lens does matter more than the camera body.  But in the end, the one who takes matters most.  Enough of gear whining.   ;)


I've just seen these shots recently.  These shots are taken mostly with Nikon D200 and D7000.  Not mine, but it's worth sharing.  These photos are some of the best I can find in the web for macro and landscape.


Macro / Re: Is no one interested in macro?
« on: December 13, 2012, 12:03:03 AM »
Not my pics but I found them really "WOW".  These are just some of the images that I aspire to get.  I shared them for inspiration.


How does the noise compare on something like a 60D with 17-55/2.8 IS, vs. a 6D with 24-70/4 IS?  If the 6D has to go up in ISO to compensate for the smaller aperture, will the resulting noise generally be more or less than the crop body at a lower ISO?  How about a 7D instead of a 60D?  In short, how does the low light benefit of going FF compare to the loss of a stop in aperture?

Thanks for any advice and help you can offer.

With the full frame camera, f/4 is dof-equivalent to f/2.5 on a crop. As far as ISO performance is concerned, all things equal you'd expect it to go up with the square of the crop factor, e.g. FF should be able to use 2.5x the ISO setting of the crop for comparable results assuming similar technology. I think you'll find this holds up pretty well, for example my Rebel body would struggle at ISO 800 and my 5DII is pretty comfortable at ISO1600.

And when you're on full frame, you only "lose a stop" on that lens (unless you put teleconverters on but then that's a choice)

BTW, unless you are shooting at base ISO a lot, you are throwing away most of the advantages of full frame if you only ever use it with a slow zoom lens.

How shaky are your hands ? (how fast do you need the shutter speed to be at 50mm to get a sharp picture if you aren't using IS ?)

Another possible application is macro shooting.  You're into wildlife thus I'd presume that you'll also want to photograph insects.  I'm also thinking of this because I'm also into landscape plus macro.  Does a shallow DOF compensates ISO performance for APS-C? I shoot using 500D.  In good light, ISO 800 is pretty usable, comparable enough to a 5D2 on 1600.  I've searched through flickr and compared my shots with those using FF.  Most of my shots are on F/8- F/11 while those using FF are between F/11-F/16 and sometimes F/22.  I'm using a 100mm macro USM non-L.  I'm on the same boat and a little bit confused/undecided... a 6D or a 7D2...  :-\

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: 6D Experience
« on: December 12, 2012, 07:55:19 PM »
I got my 6D yesterday and thought I will share my initial impressions. These impressions are from a Canon shooter coming from Rebel bodies (450D & 500D) and I thought it will help someone that is in the same boat as I was in figuring our whether or not to upgrade to the 6D.

What I use a camera for:
Family (with kids running around) and Travel.  Nothing for payment

Physical Attributes
Weight: Heavier than anticipated and with the 24-105 kit much more than the Rebel.  I had a 17-50 F2.8 Sigma on my Rebel which made it heavier than the out of the box kit already, but the 6D is beyond that.  I am glad I have a Black Rapid strap.  Would not like this around my neck.  However, the balance (not tipping over so much) is better than my 500D/Sigma combo and although heavier, definitely usable all day long.
Size: I like the physical size over the Rebel.  Using both hands on it feel much more comfortable. I handled a 5DIII&5DII in the store, and I prefer the 6D size. For me, coming from a Rebel, the 6D feels great in the hand while the 5DIII felt like a stretch.
Feel & Buttons: Everything felt better - body, buttons, shutter sound (love that  ;D).  I have to get use to using the top plate buttons, but the rest of the button layout felt very familiar even to the dated 500D.

Name an attribute, and it is better than the 500D, and you can't help but think that "this is how it is supposed to be".  The level of customization really impressed me. I appreciate that the 5DIII and 1DX is even better at this, but coming from a Rebel, WOW! What I particularly liked is:
- C1 and C2 functions
- Minimum shutter speed setting
- Customisation options in general. Like AI Servo assignability to the DOF button, ISO limits, Different Focus points in Portrait v Landscapes
- Direct access to Drive, ISO etc. on top plate
- GPS & Wifi: Did not explore this other than pairing to my iPhone and (it has a slight lag) I can see this being handy for shots where I am in front of the camera with the family.
- HDR: I liked that this is built in.
- WB: I might miss a dedicated button for this, but the Q menu does accomodate this.

ISO: High ISO is so much better than the 500D. Expressing it in Stops is beyond my ability, but with the 500D I did not use 1600 (except in the rare circumstances where shutter speed was more important than IQ). Now with this I can see no problem going to 6400 and I think 12800 will become the new 1600 (which is still 1 stop below native max). So what is that 3 Stops  ;) ? Off course this is dependent on what you can tolerate in terms of noise.
FPS: It’s faster than my 500D so that’s an improvement for me and I see it as adequate for the "action" type shots I sometimes need.
Focus: I played with it indoors (dark outside) and with the 24-105, 50 1.4, 100 L Macro and 70-200 F4 Non-IS.  My approach was not scientific at all but the focus on the centre point was snappy and quicker than my Rebel.  The Macro was slow as usual.  I used the outer points, and as I Rebel user could not complain about speed or accuracy.
Viewfinder: Forget that it is not 100%, this is much better/brighter than the Rebel's

Yes I am sure a lot of people can and will nitpick over many of the (missing) features. But coming from a Rebel, most will be blown away. So, is the upgrade worth it? Well, I felt I had to upgrade from my 500D. So it was either a 60D/650D (body only) at $800 or this. So does the extra $2000 ($1200 body + 800 lens) make you a better photographer? No, but it will make the pictures you do take look better, especially in low light. 
Why not 5DII? I liked the smaller/lighter size, Overall newer tech, Digic 5+, GPS & WiFi options and I am confident that this will now last me a very long time.
Why not D600? To commited to EOS (Lenses and Flashes) and I handled it in the shop, it felt very foreign.

Thanks for sharing your experience.  I'm coming from the same rebel too.  I'm still waiting for the 7D2 and will decide after its release.  Have fun!

Lenses / Re: 50mm upgrade or 85mm coverage?
« on: December 12, 2012, 09:52:38 AM »
If it were me, I'd get a 70-200 or 17-40(16-35) just to be a little bit flexible before I get an 85.  Anyway, you know what you need most.   ;)

Just to get that "PRO" look?  ;D  Anyway, I've seen some scratches.  Are you sure you didn't accidentally tow this with your car?  Just kidding.   ::)

EOS Bodies / Re: 6D or 5D3 (or wait for 7d2?)
« on: December 12, 2012, 09:45:57 AM »
I'm not a big fan of flash photography.

Personally, I'm a big fan of flash photography, but in a way you cannot or can only barely see there was artificial light involved - and to let the background meld with the lit object high iso capability is important as well.

Here is my "super-skill" of PP when I need an object stands out under low light :P :P :P  J.K

Most of my photos are just family moments - kids running around the house and family vacation etc... nothing special.

I did have a chance to play with the studio lighting few months back. Yes....it's very nice to have proper lighting when we serious about photography.

For now, I like FF plus my fav 24-70 + 70-200. I'm thinking about 50L this x-mas, since I have over $500 cash value with Crutchfiled.

This would look a lot better if you're using a fill-in flash.  Scenes like these, I'll go full manual, meter on the background (most probably, requiring high ISO), and use an external fill-in flash to illuminate the foreground.  Even a cheap third party flash will greatly improve these kind of shots.  Just my 2 cents.

Canon General / Re: Remote Shutter Release for Canon 5D3
« on: December 11, 2012, 09:34:40 PM »
IPHONE.  oops...   ;)

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