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EOS Bodies / Re: A Surprise Cinema EOS Announcement for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:35:59 AM »
Of course this rumor is the panicked response to the FS7...trying to stave off the inevitable mass migration unless Canon has something else to say. Sony is dismantling Canon piece by piece, and Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, Zeiss, and Samyang have put a big dent in their glass sales. What can Canon do?

Key to the FS7 is the E mount, it can be adapted to anything bigger including PL, Canon, and Nikon. The Metabones Speedbooster (now with a high end Ultra version) gives super 35 a full-frame look and speed. The CX00's still have better low-light than the FS7 even though they are super 35, but not as good as the A7s low-light. However the A7s has miserable rolling shutter.

Combining all of these factors it's clear the sensor Canon must develop for the next Cinema line is full frame with a global shutter option. Some will still prefer super 35 with PL mount but that's not Canon's glass strength. EOS-M mount failed bitterly and can't host full-frame. No Speedbooster can be used with the EF flange distance. So Canon has to provide a full frame option for full frame look and low-light capability...there's no choice. And because it's so slow to read out of such a sensor it needs global shutter to avoid the jello.

That might preclude HFR so they may have an HFR camera that's super 35 and does at least 1080p240 and hopefully 4K120 or at least 4K60 like the FS7 can. Canon also must settle on a storage format (Cfast?) and codec (AVC-Uktra?) that has likely been holding them up all this time.

I like Canon but Sony has better offerings in every form factor other than the 1DX. The RX series, the A7's, the FS7...they have bet the company on video and it's a formidable company. One hopes Canon is ready to go with a new line because I couldn't recommend them anymore.

I'm excited about these new Sony cams, but I don't think Canon is a write off. These are Sony's latest and greatest. The Canon's are several years old, this is just another leap in the never ending game of leapfrog. I am not going to start jumping back and forth between brands, and a system is much more than any one of the components, including the camera. Ultimately I think most people will have a mix of equipment from different brands. The Canon glass is still awesome, and overall on an lens to lens comparison, canon on the whole comes out looking pretty damn good for glass. Metabones (and other adaptors) is a huge bonus for Sony, because a lot of people would not even consider the likes of the A7s without the adapters. And the A7s isn't all roses either. Some are complaining that it is too small, and to make it useable requires a lot of add-ons. I'm intrigued by it, but not jumping on the bandwagon yet. I'm more intrigued by the PXW-X70.... if that thing flies through great reviews it will be my next cam, and I was considering the XF200.
BTW ... the FS7 hasn't been released, so it's a bit early to say the the Cx00 series has better low light performance. Maybe.
Personally I really hope for a killer C100 mark II: better codec, built in slomo, at least 60fps at 1080p, built in 4k, and 422 color, wifi controllable, bigger better LCD with touch screen, and, horror of horrors: full DPAF using all pixels, with face detect, touch focus, customizable touch focus pull. The C100 is the best looking form factor out there, and I hope Canon makes it deadly. This camera would be in almost everyones bag if they pull out the stops.

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Surprise Cinema EOS Announcement for Photokina? [CR1]
« on: September 13, 2014, 02:03:47 AM »
Interesting rumor. Cinema Eos on Photokina? If it's true and we see a development announcment, then it's clearly designed to push down the ridiculously high interest/pre-orders of the just-announced Sony FS7. That FS7 just disrupts the market, it's clearly the end of the current C300/1Dc/C100 sales, therefore they will HAVE to respond very soon.

If anyone is not following the FS7 it:

-S35 sensor inside the F5/FS700 (therefore absolutely lovely image and very sensitive)
-Records 4K 10bit 4:2:2 XAVC internal like the 30K $ F55
-Records 180fps at 1080p and 60p at 4K
-Outputs 4K raw at 60fps and 2K raw at 240fps to external recorder
-It comes with everything ready to shoot, a nice EVF, shoulder pad, articulating grip, internal ND filters,
-It's the most well designed camera I've seen in years
-It's 8000$. Half the C300 and just 1.5K over the C100!



Whilst the C300 is a lovely camera, my favourite actually, after this announcement its days are over considering it only records at 8 Bit, no 4K at all, limited to 60p at 720, this is just a different generation.

Canon must now offer a 4K option, and a 10bit option, and of course super slow motion. Perhaps in a new model, perhaps in paid firmware updates for the current line-up (that would be a major hit to Sony)

I agree completely.  This Sony FS7 looks really promising. I'm not usually brand loyal, but I have been holding out for Canon gear, and I'll be in trouble if Canon comes out with a compelling C100 mark II because I'll have to find some money fast.

On the other hand, the Sony PXW-X70 looks set to clobber the Canon XF200 (another camera I was eyeballing), and it's $1300 less. Now the Sony FS7 looks set to clobber not only the C100, but the C300.

Maybe the Sony combo is the way to go. FS7 + PXW-X70  is about the same price as the C100 + XF200 combo, but with far better looking specs. I'll be eager to see the reviews.

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Lenses / Re: The New Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Pancake
« on: September 11, 2014, 12:34:27 PM »
Nice lens, but "shame" it is s EF-S

Good excuse to go buy a 7DII  ;)
Let's see how it works with Dual-pixel CMOS AF.
Would be perfect for a glidecam.

A better glidecam setup is EOS-M with the 11-22 STM IS.  Lighter, wider, and with Image stabilization. I doubt you'd use AF, even DPAF, in a glidecam shot.

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Lenses / Re: The New Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Pancake
« on: September 11, 2014, 11:48:27 AM »
25mm x 1.6x = 40mm

No. It's EF-S so it's 24mm on APS-C. If you put EF 24mm on APS-C, then you will get equivalent around 38mm.

Uh. I'm almost sure that an ef 24 has the same FOV as an ef-s 24. The added "S" just means that it's only mountable to crop bodies.

Nope. You can mount EF-S lens on FF as well. But I wouldn't recommend it.

A Canon  EF-S lens will not mount on a Canon FF body.

Can you tell me why? If u can mount FF lens on a crop body?

because the ef-S has a Short back focus distance. That is, the rear element protrudes farther into the camera body, and a FF mirror would hit it. The smaller APS-C mirror doesn't need as much room to swing up. So Canon devised a trick with the mounts so that FF-compatible lenses can mount to the EF-S mount, but not vice versa.

Exactly ... I think there's some sort of design advantage to pushing the rear element back. Maybe it allows for smaller lenses?

Other manufacturers that make crop lense for Canon bodies, like Tokina, Sigma, Tamron, use the EF mount. These crop lenses can be mounted on the FF bodies, and many people do. I have the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 and the Tokina 50-135 f/2.8, both crop lenses. I have used them on my 5DIII. The 11-16 works fine above 15mm, and the 50-135 works from about 100-135mm.

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Lenses / Re: The New Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Pancake
« on: September 11, 2014, 11:11:53 AM »
25mm x 1.6x = 40mm

No. It's EF-S so it's 24mm on APS-C. If you put EF 24mm on APS-C, then you will get equivalent around 38mm.

Uh. I'm almost sure that an ef 24 has the same FOV as an ef-s 24. The added "S" just means that it's only mountable to crop bodies.

Nope. You can mount EF-S lens on FF as well. But I wouldn't recommend it.

A Canon  EF-S lens will not mount on a Canon FF body.

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Lenses / Re: The New Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM Pancake
« on: September 11, 2014, 09:29:17 AM »
The EOS-M with 22mm f/2 is a far better option, and the package can be had for less than $300 today.
Mine came with a little flash for $300 almost two years ago.

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Lenses / Re: The New EF 24-105mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM
« on: September 11, 2014, 09:24:29 AM »
Maybe if it's really light weight, or Canon comes out with a FF body with DPAF

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Photography Technique / Re: Benefits of IS in fast shutter speeds
« on: September 10, 2014, 04:53:32 PM »
The IS with fast SS helps getting better framing when using really long lenses. Nothing more.

+1   I find the jittery frame without IS very disturbing and distracting in telephoto lenses. The IS helps a lot to see what is happening, especially if you are trying to capture a precise moment or any subtleties. The IS stabilizes the viewfinder.

To which focal lengths does that refer?

More important on longer lenses, but I find IS helps even at 100 mm.  The view floats instead of jumping around.

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Photography Technique / Re: Benefits of IS in fast shutter speeds
« on: September 10, 2014, 03:46:49 PM »
The IS with fast SS helps getting better framing when using really long lenses. Nothing more.

+1   I find the jittery frame without IS very disturbing and distracting in telephoto lenses. The IS helps a lot to see what is happening, especially if you are trying to capture a precise moment or any subtleties. The IS stabilizes the viewfinder.

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Lenses / Re: Input on building a prime lens kit
« on: September 08, 2014, 08:31:25 AM »
On FF:

1.   35mm f/2 IS           if just one body one lens. This lens is awesome for video and low light, and it's lightweight
2.   24mm and 50mm    for two lens kit. I'm waiting for a new 50 with IS (have the 1.4 now)
3.   24, 35, 85               for three lens kit. I had the 24 1.4L but it didn't focus reliably on the 5D2 so I returned it.
                                    The shots with that lens are unique, so I may buy it again (I have heard that it focuses
                                     much better on the 5D3).

Also good combination:  35mm and the 70-200 2.8.  One prime, one zoom

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Rundown of Canon at Photokina
« on: September 04, 2014, 10:10:30 PM »
Here's hoping these are not the actual specs for the 7DII I was hoping to put this body in my bag as a second camera.

I'll be interested if it turns out to be a mini 1Dx

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EOS Bodies / Re: A Rundown of Canon at Photokina
« on: September 03, 2014, 02:52:21 PM »
I hope Canon has more than this to offer. Maybe an EOS-M III / Pro, the mythical 100-400, a 50 1.4 IS, a C100mkII, a XF300mkII (XF400?)

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Lenses / Re: Sigma 35 Art vs EF 35 IS in real life
« on: August 26, 2014, 03:41:47 PM »
I have the 35 f/2 IS, the 40mm pancake, and the 28mm f/2.8 IS. The 35 is my favorite of those three. It is great for video, the IS makes the footage very stable. f/2 is pretty damn good for low light and not bad for bokeh.
I'm not a big fan of the pancake. The 28 is a great lens but I should have bought the 24 to go with the 35 instead.

The 24 f/2.8 IS and 35 f/2 IS would make a great pair. Both are light weight and a pleasure to use, and they produce wonderful results

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EOS Bodies - For Video / Re: 25 or 24 f p/s?
« on: August 22, 2014, 01:51:54 PM »
I use 30 fps (29.97), 1/60 sec shutter speed. It is smoother than 24p

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Lenses / Re: Canon EF24-105mm f4 IS USM time for a refresh?
« on: August 22, 2014, 01:22:52 PM »
My most frequent use of the 24-105 now is for video with an adapter on the EOS-M. It is remarkably good for this purpose.

I have magic lantern on the EOS-M, which has 3x video crop mode. This lens becomes 38-168 mm FF equiv in normal video mode, and about 115-500 mm in video crop mode. The results are far superior to any consumer camcorder, and at a lower price. Not to mention the humble 22mm f/2 becomes a 35mm / 115mm lens.

All of that for around $1000 ... you could literally make a feature film ... just add some audio equipment and support gear.

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