April 18, 2014, 04:31:13 AM

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - ahsanford

Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 11 ... 35
for this lens i'm the opposite, i'm gonna wait for the canon IS version and compare if the IQ is close i would more likely take the IS lens at 1.8 over the non is 1.4


When do you guys think we will see reviews and and price announcement?

I have only seen one first impressions / hands-on sort of posts, like this:



(...photos 6 and 7 are of it as well)

The first is clearly the best read to date.  Those guys, like DPReview, get lenses early for eval, so they'll be following up soon.

I haven't seen price yet.

- A

If you can't get sharp photos with a 1.2L, then YOUR technique is not right for this lens.

That L lens is lovely but has limitations that many on this thread want nothing to do with -- it is not the sharpest lens and has rather inconsistent focusing (and not just at wide apertures), as has been spoken to numerous times on this thread. 

But implying we are using it wrong is probably not the kindest thing to say.

Maybe you could put things a bit more softly:  "Perhaps another 50mm lens is a better choice for some of us."

It certainly is for me. 

- A

All the rumors are pointing to Canon releasing a 50mm f/1.8 IS to replace the current 50mm f/1.4. I have no interest in image stabalization at the 50mm focal length so I am inclined to go with the Sigma and if it is as good as the Sigma 35mm, it may have better IQ than the new Canon 50mm.

I think Sigma scored a home run with this lens

You are not wrong.  As beaten to death earlier in this thread, some folks value IS and others value speed. 

I think Canon and Sigma's new 50mm lenses will be both be hits... just with different groups of people.

- A

Lenses / Re: Headed to Hawaii -- let's talk gear / locations
« on: January 08, 2014, 02:28:37 PM »
I visited Kauai last summer, and these were what I missed (mind you, I was using my ISO-poor 7D at the time):
1. One fast telephoto for the evening Luaus
2. One macro for the beautiful flora at the botanical gardens and also elsewhere
3. One long telephoto for surf shots
4. A reverse ND grad for sunsets
Based on your gear set, I would recommend a 100mm macro that will satisfy 1 and 2, and a 1.4/2x III for 3.
A fast prime is always great for those fun evenings. But with the 5DIIIs sensor, a f/4 IS zoom might suffice.

Oh, and make sure you have something for taking nice portraits of your gf. That brought me great favors with my wife, and may just pave the way for your new 50mm :)

Great advice.

I have the 100L macro, but I usually leave it at home on travel since my 24-70 F/4L IS has the 0.7x mag macro mode (despite how close I have to get, the macro need is only maybe 3% of my shooting need on vaca).  And the longer TF need is covered with the 70-200 and the 2x T/C.

- A

Lenses / Re: Headed to Hawaii -- let's talk gear / locations
« on: January 08, 2014, 01:57:26 PM »
The 2nd shot looks like maybe Hanauma bay!!   
Of all the lenses that I took to Hawaii my most used was my 16-35 f2.8L and with my 5D3.
Have fun!!

Of all my requirements:

  • Accepts my Lee front filter setup without buying a new frame (i.e. eliminates built-in hood lenses)
  • Wider than 24mm
  • Great IQ

...the LensRentals gang recommended the Zeiss 21mm.  They claimed it was spectacular.

Just cursorily, compare and contrast...

Zeiss:  http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=zeiss%2021mm%205D%20landscape

Canon 16-35 (Didn't flag it as I or II):  http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=%2216-35%20II%22+5D+landscape

The Canon will let me take the shot where it's best to place the camera, and it will be weather sealed (if you put much stock into that, it's quite informal what that claim truly means)

But the Zeiss might add a little something special to the shots.  I shoot manual focus / LV for landscapes, so MF is not an issue in this application on this trip.

Whaddya think?

- A

Now Sigma offers a $900 version of a 50mm, which is much less affordable than four of Canon's offerings.

Where have you found pricing info?  I've checked (what I thought was) everywhere and can't find it.

Price isn't announced so much as presumed.  Most would peg this in the $800-1000 initial offering, so the 35mm Art's original (and current, if I'm not mistaken) price of $899 seems about right.

If we polled this forum for what they think it will be offered for, I think the majority of respondees (if honest about it), would peg this on or around that $899 figure.  That would likely be based on the assumption that this lens will be as good as the 35 Art.  If not so, all bets are off.   :D

- A

I still think this new Sigma will be sharper when equivalently stopped down than the new Canon 50mm F/'something' IS (we still don't know the max aperture yet), but not by so much that I don't want IS and a much smaller lens.

My mind's not made up by any means -- let's see the reviews!  But my 'overall lens sensibilities' / 'best lens for what I shoot' spidey sense remains pretty firmly in the 'small + IS is better' camp.

+1  I'm looking forward to the reviews. 

I'd certainly like to have a better 50mm option than my 50 1.4, but won't pull the trigger on the Sigma until I see if Canon is coming out with a 50mm f/1.8 or f/2 IS this year.  If they do, and its as good, small and light as the 35mm f/2 IS, I'll get one of those.   I seldom shoot below f/2.0 anyway and IS would be very nice.  Canon has done a terrific job with the other IS primes released recently.  The size of the Sigma is a negative in my book.

Expect the new Canon 50 IS to highly consistently follow in the footsteps of the 24/28/35 non-L IS refreshes.

Expect the new Sigma 50 to highly consistently follow the Sigma 35 Art.

So I expect the new Sigma 50 to be slightly sharper than the new Canon 50 and likely be a shade quicker (again, that max aperture of the new Canon is unknown), but the Canon will be smaller and have IS.  I expect in this forum, between those two lenses it will be a 50-50 split of readers as for what's best for them.

- A

I'm very happy with my current f/1.4 Sigma - but did anyone notice the maximum magnification ratio of 1:5.6?  The MMR of the current model is only 1:7.4, something I stumble into when I do museums with this lens.

I used to own the 50mm f/1.4 and used it on a 550D and 7D. Great lens for museums.
Africa Museum - very little light inside
550D iso3200 and f1.4(of course) - there is some noise here

It's a fabulous lens for this application; only the small displays could use a little more magnification though (on full frame) but I don't consider 1:5.6 vs 1:7.4 max magnification to be enough of a difference to justify getting the new Sigma for this feature only ;)

I visited a museum for ethnic sciences, they have some African stuff too :)

Sample below: Canon EOS 5D Mark II ,1/50 sec, f/2.8 iso 2000, -0,67 EV

Clearly, more will be improved than min focus distance...   :P

See attached.  Again, this is just for sharpness -- and there is a ton more to a lens than sharpness -- but there clearly is  room for improvement, esp. on the wider end, esp. in the corners.

But you can see why some folks still prefer the Canon 50 F/1.4 over the L lens, and why most every 50mm prime shooter wants a better option.  This Sigma and the long-rumored Canon 50 refresh represent that opportunity.

- A

When I said Canon has been sleeping "here"...I was referring to 50mm focal length.  This is the NORMAL focal length for FF and the Canon offerings have been in my mind disrespectful of photography.  I think Canon should be offering something solid, reliable and competent in this BASIC staple. The do not, as far as I am concerned. I bought the old Sigma 50mm f/1.4 (not without its own problems...but apparently I bought a good copy), because the canon offerings were so anemic...and the price on the L lens for what it offers is embarrassing. Also, if they ever do come to bat on this situation, (a 50mm f/2.0 IS is NOT addressing this BASIC issue) you can bet the pricing will suck the air out of the room.  Whatever is going on over at Sigma Corp. I for one hope that they keep sending lots of it our way. Hope this new Sigma busts the 50mm situation wide open.  We will see. (fingers crossed).

Canon offers five flavors of standard lens (40/2.8, 50/2.5, 50/1.8, 50/1.4, 50/1.2).  Four of them are very affordable.  I would not call that "disrespectful of photography".  Each of them offers some advantages, and each has found many buyers, and each has made many fine photos.  Your old Sigma 50/1.4 is about $500 or about 25% more than Canon's 50/1.4, so it should be better at least in some way.  Now Sigma offers a $900 version of a 50mm, which is much less affordable than four of Canon's offerings.  And it's not weather-sealed.  Should Canon have offered a $900 large-sized non-weather-sealed 50mm lens?  That would be nice, but can you really blame Canon for not filling every possible price niche.  And I disagree about a 50mm f/2 IS.  That would be a "basic staple".  A 50/2 has been a basic staple in the photography world for generations.  Adding IS would make it even more attractive, especially for video.

Agree.  This forum seems to prefer the prospect of a large F/1.4 lens, but many, many photogs would snap up an F/2 IS with all the modern niceties of the 24/28/35 non-L refreshes.

F/1.4 glass creates unique images -- uniquely soft images everywhere other than the center.  Those aren't the shots I want to take.  I still think this new Sigma will be sharper when equivalently stopped down than the new Canon 50mm F/'something' IS (we still don't know the max aperture yet), but not by so much that I don't want IS and a much smaller lens.

My mind's not made up by any means -- let's see the reviews!  But my 'overall lens sensibilities' / 'best lens for what I shoot' spidey sense remains pretty firmly in the 'small + IS is better' camp.

- A

I made a ahem paper "replica" to get my head around the size. Seems about the same size and thickness as an average coffee mug.


Without comparing like for like, that is a big lens. In that sense I think I prefer my current Sigma 1.4, just for its size (and it is also not a very small lens)...

The coffee mug cracks me up - nice work. 

I checked the listed specs and compared them to TDP's database.  The new Sigma lens is as big as the recent Canon 24-70 F/4L IS (fully closed / widest FL).  The hood will undoubtedly be bigger for the Sigma, as the small petal hood of the Canon zoom is made for the 24mm FL, I believe.

- A

Lenses / Re: Sigma announces all-new 50mm F1.4 DG HSM 'Art' lens
« on: January 07, 2014, 11:19:40 AM »
This is a very interesting lens. I'm sure it will be at least as sharp as the 35/1.4. But I truly hope it will have a nicer bokeh than the 35. Anyway Canon must do something with this challenge and it will be interesting to see.

I read that some of you are waiting for a 50mm f2 IS from Canon. I find it a bit hard to be enthusiastic for such a lens. I don't think I would buy anything with a focal length <100mm at less than f1.4. The f2 is too close to the f2.8L zooms.

Primes aren't just for speed / small DOF.  Primes are smaller and (with occasional exceptions) considerably sharper than zooms.

- A

Canon should be ashamed to offer (in the future) non-L 50 mm 1.8 IS....

Respectfully disagree.  Each of the non-L IS refresh lenses are terrific.

I think it will be a battle of IS + small design (Canon) vs. speed + larger design.  I'm guessing both will have excellent IQ.

- A

It all depends on the price of both the Sigma and Canon (if we ever see the Canon that is!). I got rid off my 50 1.8 a while ago and have missed having something relatively small and light to use as a walk around lens. The Sigma looks like it might be a bit on the heavy side, prob better suited to studio work than hiking and outdoor activities. For that kinda thing a 50 IS would make more sense. I really love IS, it's a life saver. I don't want to carry a tripod all day for the small possibility that i might need it for one or two low light shots in the evening. Just want a well built 50 that has reliable AF.

I can see both the Canon and Sigma being around the same price, a bit like the 35s.

Canon, the time to announce your 50 1.8 IS is now!

The new Sigma is almost the same diam/length as the Canon 24-70 F/4L IS, which is certainly big for a 50 prime!

But the weight is less than you'd think for its size -- the new Sigma is about halfway between the Canon F/1.4 and F/1.2, and right around a pound, I think. 

Interesting!  They pulled the weight from their webpage! It was around 16 oz when I first read it today.

P.S.  OT to Zv:  I use that 24-70 F/4 for hiking myself and it's not been a bother, it's quite ideal actually (macro/wide/solid AF for wildlife/weather seal/IS for lower light), and I'm not a big guy by any means.  I put that on a BlackRapid mounted body and I'm off.

Pages: 1 ... 7 8 [9] 10 11 ... 35