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EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: So what makes a camera a "pro" camera?
« on: October 14, 2014, 05:31:46 PM »
The person holding it.

Clearly that isn't the whole answer. Canon have a line of cameras aimed at professionals with a distinct set of features, which appeal the kind of people, who take pictures for a living.

This is the point that I'm getting at.   For example, the 5D series camera I have considered to be the ultimate wedding photographer's camera.   Now along comes the 6D.   It is generally plastic, it does not have all of the bells and whistles that the 5D series do, but it does have some that the 5D series do not have.  The 6D can also be considered a fantastic wedding photographer's camera.   So why would the 6D be less of a professional camera than that of the 5D?

My theory is that it is the professional who sets the criteria for what they consider to be professional grade equipment.  They are the one's making the money and most professionals I know, in any profession, will spend only the right amount of money on the right tool to do the job.

I recently went with a wedding photographer to a shoot to be an unpaid apprentice to see what it's all about.  I was stunned when he whipped out a Nikon 5100 and a kit lens, and that was all that he had.   It went against all that I believe and had read in the forums here on CR.  There was no backup, it was a crop sensor camera with an average lens.   He didn't have a flash either.  I was expecting at least 2 cameras, a few lenses in the f/2.8 or larger range with one being a 70-200, another being 24-70 and the last a macro of some kind. Maybe an assortment of flashes and portable modifiers.   At the end of the day, though, the bride was happy. 

Now I still would bring at least two cameras to such an event for redundancy purposes, but looking beyond that - the bride was happy.  That is when I started to question what I believed a professional level camera should be.    I can see the build quality being a valid differentiator, but I'm failing to see anything else at the moment.  Even support levels are questionable to me since that is a choice that, in the example given above, CPN does not want to offer the level of service to a T3 that they would provide to a 5DIII.

I don't believe there is a right or wrong answer here.  From the responses so far, it appears that "professional grade" falls to the perspective of the professional and what they value in their respective tools.   This was a fun thread to post - thank you for all of your responses.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: So what makes a camera a "pro" camera?
« on: October 14, 2014, 02:12:53 PM »
Build, Performance, Features.

A solid photographer can take great photos with crap equipment and a n00b can screw up even the best of top end gear.

A pro camera is often more metal allow than plastic and has better weather sealing.

If you shoot studio, and are making a living from it, do you need weather sealing?

EOS Bodies - For Stills / So what makes a camera a "pro" camera?
« on: October 14, 2014, 01:35:06 PM »
Coming back from a brief photography sabbatical, I've found quite a few posts on the forum regarding qualities that would make a camera considered professional vs. a camera considered non-professional.  But that got me thinking, what is it that makes a camera a professional camera?   Is it build quality?   Is it megapixels or the size of the sensor?   Is it a monetary figure that one must cross, or is it a camera that can perform in any situation even though most of those situations won't be experienced by the owner?  I'm under the current believe that if you are making money on what you do, then the tool is a professional tool whether it is a 1Dx or a 110 film camera.   I'd like to pose the question to the forum here.  What are your opinions?

EOS Bodies / Re: EOS 6D Mark II to Move Upmarket? [CR1]
« on: October 14, 2014, 11:01:24 AM »
I could see them matching the features and AF of the 70D to the 6D's replacement.  Maybe increasing the FPS a bit and adding a 19 pt auto focus and DPAF.    Give it an articulated screen and you would have a very nice successor.

I've dabbled with HDR a bit and ended up with a cartoonish looking picture of my house.  I ended up laughing at it because it looked ridiculous.

What about contributing a shot?

Here you go.   My house taken with at T1i and 10-22 Lens.   I didn't think the house itself was bad, but the sky (setting sun) looked odd to me.  Also, pay no mind to the sad looking weed bed in the front of my house.  :)

On a serious note (from my previous post on this topic), yes I believe that some of my shots would have ended up better.  I'm not a full framer, but the best purchase I made was to replace my kit lens on my rebel with the 17-55 2.8.   This allowed me to further my technique and only when the camera (T1i) became a limitation, did I move on to the 60D - which was recently and a bargain at the price.   I'm not sure that purchasing a 5D or 1D would have helped me as much as obtaining better lenses. 

Now, I'm eyeing the 7DII.  I'm one of those helicopter parents who wished their 60D had a higher frame rate :)

*Edit - of course, looking back at Dylan's comments, I think that the answers that people give are respective to what they are trying to achieve with their photography.

EOS Bodies / Re: Upgrade Path Advice...
« on: October 06, 2014, 05:27:12 PM »
I agree that you may also want to consider the 70D.   Nice focus system and frame rate that may also satisfy your sports needs.   I struggle with this question myself.

Canon General / Re:
« on: October 05, 2014, 10:18:51 PM »
Nothing is IMPOSSIBLE. Says Canon. They can already see it. Even if we cannot see it.  ;D

You can see it tomorrow.  8)

I see 37+ hours on the countdown timer, which makes it the day after tomorrow (Tuesday).  Are we seeing different times in different locations around the world?

I guess so.  Here in Australia it says 19:45 to go.  I'm guessing its just a dumb script that takes the local computer time difference.

I guess you could change the time on your computer and all will be revealed...

Canon General / Re:
« on: October 05, 2014, 10:13:48 PM »

Canon General / Re:
« on: October 05, 2014, 06:17:11 PM »
Probably a new designer camera bag.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: October 02, 2014, 02:30:39 PM »
For me I don't see a need to leave.  I've got a pretty good kit for my skill level.  I can produce photos that I like so I don't need the hassle of swapping all of my equipment to another vendor, relearning the equipment, etc.   

"Your mileage may vary" of course, but I'm content with Canon.

EOS Bodies - For Stills / Re: Why haven't you left canon?
« on: October 02, 2014, 09:42:29 AM »
But the entertainment value of CR can't be beat.
 CR is the Jerry Springer of the photography forum world.


I replied "sure, still do," but only because there are occasions where having a surreal image is what the photographer intended.   Sometimes I like that crazy look - most of the time not.   I wish I could select "sure, but sometimes" as a poll option.   

I've dabbled with HDR a bit and ended up with a cartoonish looking picture of my house.  I ended up laughing at it because it looked ridiculous.  I haven't tried it since.  :)   

Not sure I would have benefited from it, but I would have looked a lot cooler than with my rebel/18-55 IS.  :)

Isn't it all about looking like a pro ????   :D :D :D :D

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