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Lenses / Re: Your favorite lens is?
« on: January 14, 2013, 01:20:24 PM »
It is like asking what song you like best... depends on the mood and the occation.

I can probably pick three if there is no context and we are being pedantic: 135L, 35L, and 24-105L .

In a pinch, I always grab the 24-105L Zoom and 35L prime. They compliment eachother very well.

I fall in and out of love with the 35L....it does limit you in someways being in reality a wider angle than normal ....but I use it as a faux standard for a bit of punch. Right now I am going through the love phase with the ageing 35L. :)

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Reviews / Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« on: January 13, 2013, 01:56:40 PM »
Justin...for all of the hits you are taking here, about this review, I just want to say to you how GREAT and REFRESHING your reviews are!
You give us "real-world" reviews off the cuff AND you back up your take on whatever you are reviewing with SOLID photography...(many reviewers do not have that ability!).
The thing is...when you give us your input, I listen to what you have to say because your images give you credibility...so I listen when you talk. If people want a super-analytical, technical review from some dweeb who can't shoot...let them go elsewhere. Your discussions are relaxed, intelligent and informative.
Just keep doing what you are doing...You have brought new life to this website and I for one am enjoying your presentations here.

Thank you! You just made my morning ;)

Yes, keep the reviews coming.

And as an aside, with this particular lens you have to at least be "seen" as being even-handed in your review, which you clearly were.

If you hadn't, the 50L cult would have run you over with their trophy Hummers getting 3 miles per gallon. So, really smart call.  ;D

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Lenses / Re: Reasons why 14-24L zoom will not be coming soon
« on: January 13, 2013, 01:23:44 PM »
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It's just a patent, and the field is already overcrowded. As for patent, they probably have a patent for a lens that dispenses toilet paper in nice origami shapes. As for overcrowded it's plain to me a 14-24 would replace the older 17-40.

LOL on the toilet paper patents, but come on now, the japanese use those fancy bidet things...;)
The 14-24L is likely to be an "up-market" product probably skirting $2500 to $3000 at introduction... so if anything the highly affordable 17-40L will not be a direct competition...the 16-35 II, though also not exactly a direct competition, could be at somewhat more danger given importantly its ~$1400 price point.

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I think you're mostly right that Canon doesn't feel compelled to compete directly with Nikon. But as I've often said I believe as far as marketing, the Nikon influence on Canon is greatly overestimated.

I concur, Canon will not feel compelled to match "lens-for-lens" or "focal length-for-focal length" on the EF mount. If there is a big gaping hole, may be...currently I don't see that in the UWA range.

As for starring into the Sun and Canon's marketing... we have all been there.  ::)

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Lenses / Re: Reasons why 14-24L zoom will not be coming soon
« on: January 13, 2013, 01:00:20 PM »

While I agree that the 14-24 may take some time to materialize, your first and second argument are contradictory. As per your own argument the 14-24 will be a compromise of sorts so the IQ of the primes will be better. Prime shooters will still go for the primes regardless of the existence of the 14-24.

I partly agree... I think the 24L II is safe... it is a faster f1.4 and is safe from internal price poaching. 

But the two f2.8 lenses (16-35II and the 14L II), I am not so sure: 16-35L II at f/2.8 though not a direct competition, is a reliable revenue generator for Canon and I think they will try to keep it even if this hypothetical zooom is planned ; but there will be some residual predation there as at least some who are currently forced to choose 16-35 II even though they have the money, will opt for the overlapping wider UWA.

Now the 14L II currently costs about $2300 and bears the usual crosses that UWA's bear (still agreat lens) may not be so safe at f/2.8. The hypothetical 14-24L zoom, even if it has a smidge less IQ, will tempt some, it will tempt me.


If this were the case, the 24-70 II would cannibalize the sales of the 24, 35 and 50 Ls. Don't see that happening.

This, I don't agree with. All three primes you list are faster at f1.4 or f1.2... with stellar reputation for the first two lenses and a controversial cult following for the 50L. not even a close comparison to the 24-70II at f/2.8. If you want faster, you will choose the L primes.

Now will one do the same with the $2300 14L II f2.8 prime if the f/2.8 zoom existed... I don't really know.

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Lenses / Re: Reasons why 14-24L zoom will not be coming soon
« on: January 13, 2013, 12:12:49 PM »
Neuro, surely it is unfair to suggest that this post makes me a "nikonophile."  :-X
As a kid I thought if I touched a Nikon I'd get Cooties and as an adult I break out in rashes when I see a friend use one. :P

No, I wasn't speaking of you, specifically.  But I hear there's a cream for that rash...   ;)

Yes, i recently got the cream, it's called 1DX.  :P

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Lenses / Re: Reasons why 14-24L zoom will not be coming soon
« on: January 13, 2013, 11:45:00 AM »
Neuro, surely it is unfair to suggest that this post makes me a "nikonophile."  :-X
As a kid I thought if I touched a Nikon I'd get Cooties and as an adult I break out in rashes when I see a friend use one. :P

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Lenses / Reasons why 14-24L zoom will not be coming soon
« on: January 13, 2013, 01:58:11 AM »
Canon may not be in any rush to introduce 14-24mm quickly in spite of all the hype in the rumor circuit...if it comes at all, it would be a pleasant surprise for those who are waiting....and not an expected obligatory move from Canon. In fact, some sober thought would suggest the wait is likely to be longer.

Why?

1) A minor issue is that there is no such thing as a "perfect" UWA zoom; the UWA designs are typically a jumble of compromises... and there *will be* no such perfection in the new Canon designs over and above the current UWA offerings. They may get it to be marginally better but they will face the same corner issues and will have to make compromises on distortion and vignetting and perhaps curved focal planes. So they won't be in a hurry to introduce yet another UWA zoom that comes up short…as it invariably will be given the high expectations.

2) Second problem is Canon's current line up on the WA and UWA end and its marketing strategy. The existence of a patent does not mean a product will be forthcoming soon.  They introduced relatively in quick succession  (not including the 17 TSE, and the 17-40L), the 16-35 II, and 14L II, and 24L II...and note all these are version II “updates”!  A high quality 14-24 zoom that goes across all these will be an issue. Especially with the 17-40 and relatively young 16-35II already in the lineup.

3) And above all, the worst assumption is that Canon will "have" to somehow match and compete with Nikon lenses on the EF mount! On camera bodies, yes, as Nikon can pull away new comers not attached to a brand by providing cheaper, better bodies. But on the high end EF lenses ...not so much.

Once you are in the lens kennel tied to the EF mount with multiple lenses in your collection, you are like fish in a barrel for Canon. And let’s face it, for a high priced UWA zoom, we are talking well-heeled folks who are unlikely to be newbies to the Canon Brand.

As the dominant dog in the kennel with a lens branding that is highly regarded ...Canon has less incentive to "match" anything that Nikon does.  Regardless of how stellar they are, the Nikon mount lenses do NOT compete directly with the Canon EF mount.

Yes, the whimpering from the impotent Canonites that they will switch to Nikon if Canon doesn't introduce this that or the other will continue...switch due to what? A single UWA lens while giving up the whole Canon platform? Laughable! And Canon knows this well. They can drag this out for long and still keep you guessing.

So yeah... sorry to rain on the parade, but I am just not convinced that 14-24 zoom is coming anytime soon. If it does, I will genuinely be happy for ya. :)

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Reviews / Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« on: January 12, 2013, 10:52:19 PM »
"you are jealous" if you can't afford one, is childish. I use a lens to make pictures and I can assure you there are a lot of lenses out there for small budget but with great specs. There is no need to pay hundreds of dollars for the red rings just because of fluorit glasses or metal case if you can't see the results.

It's like everything, f.e. like a sportscar: you can pay 20000$ in extra for the 10 Horsepower S-Edition...

+1

I said the same thing about the comment that those who have issues with this lens do so because they "can't afford it".

Though my 50L made some great shots, it was not something that hit the mark reliably...when I needed certainty, I was falling back on the simple f1.4... I eventually bit the bullet and sold it. I will not say it has no merit at all...it does. But, it is like dating a beautiful, but rather tempremental girl who has PMS at random times. If it works for you, awesome. :)

I disagree I can afford the 50 f1.2 and the 85 f1.2 however i chose the sigma 85 f1.4 because on 5D bodies there is a significant AF speed difference and its a stunning lens

You are misreading what I said...partly because of my phrasing...we agree (I think) that it is not the price that is the deciding factor. My point was that it is childish to claim that the critics of 50L are the ones that can't afford it (an earlier poster's comment, not mine). Price does not always dictate quality and it is lame to link them.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 12, 2013, 09:52:12 PM »
I have new info! The new camera to be released is a mirror less camera with wifi and a touchscreen..... See attached photos of prototype :)


Didn't you get the memo. Humor is out, seriousness is in.

Besides, your obviously photoshopped image isn't fooling anyone...

Watch it!  :o Mt. Spokane Photography is keeping tabs and sarcasm could go on your permanent record.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 12, 2013, 09:48:10 PM »
I have new info! The new camera to be released is a mirror less camera with wifi and a touchscreen..... See attached photos of prototype :)

You have pictures! So this must be at least CR2+

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 12, 2013, 09:41:44 PM »
Bwahaha! Love it!!!

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 12, 2013, 09:21:49 PM »
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And you, 2021, have been around quite long enough to know that this is a serious forum for discussion of serious subjects. I'm sure you know, young man, that humor might compromise your credibility. And such things will end up on your permanent record!

So, watch it!!!

+1

Lol.

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EOS Bodies / Re: DSLR & Lens Coming on January 15, 2013? [CR1]
« on: January 12, 2013, 09:19:07 PM »
Slow week at CR?  Yet another CR1's to pass the time?  ;)
What happened to the Jan 8th 35L II and 14-24L UWA from last week?  :P
You have been playing the same tune over and over.  Perhaps you think that you can force Rumors to be true, or that only rumors that are guaranteed to be true are posted.
If you can't handle rumors, you need to stop reading them and then complaining that they are  ... Well, just Rumors.

Instead of instructing me that this is a rumor site, which I fully understand, you could perhaps learn to read what the tongue-in-cheek or tongue sticking out icon  :P means...I hope I am allowed to comment if a Rumor goes Dud and the original short comment was not a severe criticism in any case.

Unless CRs policy is to check with you first. Would your busy schedule with 90000 posts here allow for that time? :P
Its fine to point out your concerns, its posting the same thing over and over like a broken record is the issue.

It wasn't many times and certainly not the same context ...if it is something offensive, I would actually understand...when do you find time to troll what someone says to see if they may have repeated themselves? Find a hobby other than typing here to fill the time.

Follow your own advice...if you dont like it...don't read it :)

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Reviews / Re: Review - Canon EF 50 f/1.2L
« on: January 12, 2013, 09:04:16 PM »
"you are jealous" if you can't afford one, is childish. I use a lens to make pictures and I can assure you there are a lot of lenses out there for small budget but with great specs. There is no need to pay hundreds of dollars for the red rings just because of fluorit glasses or metal case if you can't see the results.

It's like everything, f.e. like a sportscar: you can pay 20000$ in extra for the 10 Horsepower S-Edition...

+1

I said the same thing about the comment that those who have issues with this lens do so because they "can't afford it".

Though my 50L made some great shots, it was not something that hit the mark reliably...when I needed certainty, I was falling back on the simple f1.4... I eventually bit the bullet and sold it. I will not say it has no merit at all...it does. But, it is like dating a beautiful, but rather tempremental girl who has PMS at random times. If it works for you, awesome. :)

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