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Software & Accessories / Re: What are most people using for processing RAW
« on: September 23, 2012, 06:30:48 PM »
I use Aperture for a seven years now...I'am not very happy with it, but I don't like to learn the pretty different workflow of Lightroom. There is a lot to improve in Aperture.

Aperture, though was miles ahead at its inception, is now an abandoned redheaded stepchild for Apple. They see the writing on the wall with Lightroom and its marketshare and I am not sure how much resources will be committed from the 'mothership' to compete.

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Lenses / Re: Update for the EF 24-105 f/4 L ?
« on: September 23, 2012, 03:48:39 PM »
*sarcasm hat on*  Why don't we just go the whole hog and contemplate a 16-135mm f2.8 L? :)

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Software & Accessories / Re: What are most people using for processing RAW
« on: September 23, 2012, 03:16:21 PM »
Lightroom 4.1. 

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Lenses / Re: Update for the EF 24-105 f/4 L ?
« on: September 23, 2012, 02:57:17 PM »
If Canon could build a 24-105 f/2.8 with IS, keep the weight under 1,000 g, and have as good of IQ as the current 24-105 f/2.8, then I would be will to up to $3,000 for it.

From a marketing view point, this is a non starter.  To justify a very high price and sell enough copies at that price (more than some new FF bodies) for a standard zoom, IQ has to be super great.  *IF* the IQ is that good....then just consider the number of lenses that will be in the line of fire in this range ...you could just get this one zoom and slay the Canon wide to mid ranges, several "basic" f/2.8 primes and even L level zooms... including the superstar 24-70L II f/2.8 they just introduced at a whopping $2300+ price.
 
If I were a Canon executive or marketing pro, I'll break out in rashes even reading about it. :)

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Lenses / Re: Update for the EF 24-105 f/4 L ?
« on: September 23, 2012, 02:09:00 PM »
Unlikely it will be updated anytime soon.

It is targetted toward a specific market as a kit lens. Fanatics with money to spare may own it, but will not be relying on it at f/4. They are likely to own 24-70L and a couple of primes in this range.

As a walk around lens, lack of viable competition in the price range favors Canon and they have no impetus to generate a new version of something that already seems to be hold its own. I am not holding my breadth.

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Lenses / Re: Which to get next: 35 f/1.4L or 16-35 f/2.8L...?
« on: September 23, 2012, 01:28:36 PM »
Looking at the lens kit you already have, what is missing is the ultra wide range, so the simple answer is 16-35II.  While 35L is a great lens, it really will not add much to your kit unless you are an avid street photographer or similar mid-range work or low light indoors person that will benefit from the added stops. 16-35 II is good on both FF and crop and covers a great UWA or WA range.

In spite of moments of puritanical wish to stick to primes, I have come to grudgingly admit that in practical terms, professional quality zooms are more versatile. :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Mirrorless Future
« on: September 20, 2012, 09:06:42 PM »
The fixed lens offerings are clearly opening ventures...one has to fully anticipate the prices to come down, paradoxically, with more features and interchangable lenses as the industry matures. Just look at the dSLR history. The break point would be them selling more bodies as more people gain more confidence in the technology, buy into the platform, increasing demand, increasing competition, all of which typically increases supply, generally reducing cost.

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EOS Bodies / Re: At what price point will you consider buying the Canon 6D?
« on: September 18, 2012, 08:07:37 PM »
I fully expect this to be selling in the $1200 -1400 range in year or may be even less. It may happen similar to the Adorama ebay kinda backdoor deals but no way Canon is going to even succeed in shoveling this abomination out the back door. The competition is a tad too alive and a tad too active for that.

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EOS Bodies / Re: Describe the 6D in one word...
« on: September 17, 2012, 03:15:43 PM »
Underwhelmed.

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EOS Bodies / Re: 6D Review
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:54:11 PM »
KR is like a clown without the funny make up. For pete sake dont' follow links here and go visit his lame site! He will just get more traffic! STOP the rot here. :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Mirrorless Future
« on: September 17, 2012, 02:52:34 PM »
Like I said earlier...there is "a great disturbance in the Force" :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Mirrorless Future
« on: September 15, 2012, 07:58:22 PM »
@Tcapp- As a wedding photographer, a mirrorless probably isn't of much use to you. These camera's are designed for street photographers and people who want DSLR image quality without the bulk. It's just another tool, no more, no less.

Sure, I understand that. That is a very very small niche. But what the OP is talking about is totally doing away with the current DSLR design and having everything be mirrorless. No more mirrors in anything. I don't see the point in that. He said that the 1dx is the last mirrored camera he will ever buy. Unless he is specifically an undercover street photographer, it doesn't make sense to me.

I wasn’t suggesting “Doing away” with mirrored, reflex-based systems by next Wednesday. I promise.  :)

I was resolute, and still am, that my 1DX will be my last, mirrored, sub-medium format flagship (wording chosen carefully there)  ;).

My original post was a tongue-in-cheek musing (hence the “calf-on-the-conveyer-belt” reference) as to when Canon may feel the heat to move decisively on replacing the "mirrorbox" in a Full frame body in the face of emerging competition, rag-tag as they may be now.   

Don’t get me wrong, “mirrorbox” is a reliable platform, last century technology it may be. It works. But this in no way should preclude us or Canon from moving the ball further down the line; and without healthy competition and criticism there will be no innovation. I don’t’ resent mirrorbox’s current existence. But I do hope for its accelerated exit. 

I have no doubt that when SLR’s made their debut, they were derided by good many old pro’s. I can hear them saying “you can’t see the image when the mirror is up!”; “what’s that abominable slap sound!”; “A curtain shutter! How tacky!”; “Too many moving parts”.  I think some of the righteous defense of the SLR mirrorbox I saw here, (and some of those indignant posts have magically disappeared as someone else noted earlier) is no different from those early push-backs to change.

I use “mirrorless” here as a loose term encompassing a motley crew of possibilities that may eventually supplant the current system that “moves the mirror out of the way to take a shot”.  I don’t mean a single approach…clearly this in part involves autofocus related issues, EVF and alternatives (current, pipeline, or R&D stage)…I don’t know what the final configuration or the future will be.

But one thing is clear.

To be intentionally cheesy, there is “a great disturbance in the Force” ;) 

Evidence… Nikon 1, Canon M, Sony, Fuji, and an assorted group of offerings with varying features… clearly there is “directional” movement.

The offerings may be substandard during these early stages and they may not hit all the buttons and check all the boxes, but we are seeing them evolve and they will eventually hit the viable combination. So Canon, despite the virtuous admonishments here, will also move ….they will have to. 

When mirrorless does get established (and it will), and becomes the new standard bearer (and it will be), I am certain all the righteous naysayers here will shamelessly jump ship to mirrorless and extoll its virtue and defend its superiority as they do for the mirrored systems now. I will welcome that with a wink ;)

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EOS Bodies / Re: More Big Megapixel Talk
« on: August 19, 2012, 06:05:00 PM »
I second that. It is a travesty only as long as the sheep dole out more money without demanding substantive changes from the camera maker.  In this day and age there is no reason why we talk about "fps" in the 10's when this bottle neck is introduced primarily by  the shutter/mirror mechanics and of course the speed at which the chips and the system are able to process and record the images falling on the sensor.  Computers and chips evolve continually and very fast. As I see it...the primary hurdle is to break the strangle hold mirror boxes have over the community... but that will reduce the flimsy super-duper number the companies use to bait us with..8.9 fps!!! (Oh my god, you wet your panties!) ...the new cam is 9.2 fps...(OH My god!!! I need stronger Depends)...

Mirrorless full frames are the future, when this will happen... depends on the number of sheep... baaahhh! :)

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EOS Bodies / Re: The Mirrorless Future
« on: August 19, 2012, 05:38:51 PM »
This mirrorless Sony that accepts everything sounds too good to be true... are we talking rumors or something more concrete. :)

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EOS Bodies / The Mirrorless Future
« on: August 19, 2012, 01:04:22 PM »
I was away from the site for a while and I see my profile, comments, and “karma” (good move CR) are all gone.

I saw the Canon product road map and chuckled a bit. Yes, Canon will put out more of the single reflex systems with hefty prisms, slap-down mirrors that “lock up”….with incremental tweaks to what is essentially last century ideas…to squeeze out profits with what they already have to the very last, wheezing, painful, breath. This is how companies work; this is how Canon will work, as long as they possibly can.

They will tease; introduce smaller mirrorless “systems”, just to keep a Canon-head like myself from jumping ship to a full frame competitor with less-storied lenses. We complain, we moan, write long comments on blogs for other Canon-heads, but at the end,  we are like those vacant-eyed calves they put on the conveyer belt… helplessly, meekly, bleating, we go down the “road map” to become yummy veal for Canon ;) 

But the future is now… some of what Canon does will depend on what the competitors do and what the market demands. I say “some” as one can never underestimate the sheer optimism (naïveté?)  of a diehard fan who will hang on tooth and nail even if the platform is being overtaken, not in steps, but in bounds.

I am happy with my Canon gear for now, as with everything, it is a balance; no one is perfect.  I am sure Miss America has one tit smaller than the other if you look hard enough ;) Only a pedantic fool will expect his Canon SLR to bring his beer in high resolution at 90 fps with a DR of 2 million ;). For the size of the sensor, the resolution, the quality of lenses, and the “I am used to it” factor… Canon is good. They are delivering at a slow, steady, dollar-squeezing pace. 

But to get back to the product road map, some of this will be dictated by the market forces.  Full frame mirrorless in a decent form-factor will have to come at a faster pace than I glean from that road map picture CR posted. And I predict it will … it has to.

Because, as with everything, there is an end to even the mindless optimism and naïveté of the diehard fan.  Canon is likely to drag it out for another 4 to 5 years… with “almost there” teases to keep you buying… we will have to wait and see.

But here is a sacred promise I make in the presence of other vacant-eyed calves on the conveyer belt… ID-X is my last miorred SLR… I do not plan on buying anymore “intermediate”…incremental flagships.
 
Enjoy your veal! ;)


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