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Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: Today at 09:52:57 AM »
The links still show up for me.  But I don't click links much.  I hover over them first and usually I'm not remotely interested in the destination.  As far as I'm concerned, I figure if CR is getting paid, no big deal.  Heck, I barely even noticed them until the comment brought them up.  The CR site works pretty well and it's not free to host.  In the end, we all win since this site benefits us all.  If one doesn't like the link, ignore it and don't click on it.  I think most of us know it's par for the course these days anyway and don't assume the poster went to all the trouble to link to a non related site.   ;)

Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: Today at 01:00:12 AM »
The link to hidden camera came on its own! I did not do that.

Same thing happened with "EF Lenses" in my post above!  Weird.

They appear to be generated by "Viglink".  I think it makes money for CR?  Or someone anyway.

Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 27, 2014, 11:43:02 PM »
That's great Sean!  I think based on what everyone has contributed, this choice doesn't break the bank and will put a smile on her face.  The 70D can be used like a Rebel but it has a lot of creative potential if she wants to exploit it.  It is an impressive camera that makes her look like a pro both to the casual observer and another pro.  The price also gives you extra room to consider another lens sooner.

With regard to the lens choice, once she is comfortable with the 70D, you guys can discuss where another lens would help her most.  Does she like to shoot wide or long?  Portraits, candids, events, low light, sports, macro or something else?  And if you think her photography will continue to evolve and expand, I suspect a FF camera like the 6D will be in the cards someday.  If that's the case, you might want to choose EF lenses so they can be used with FF down the road.

Hey, don't be a stranger!  Keep us in the loop on how everything pans out.  We hope she is overjoyed and you come away with a big win!  Have a great weekend!

mkabi - I agree, I think a lot of folks are indeed looking for that and the serious efforts to achieve that result are well worth it and very creative.

But for every crew of professionals that understand how to use the tools at their disposal, a thousand other folks end up discovering that the $3500 DSLR + a couple of $1000+ lenses end up making very poor videos and they don't understand why.  Meanwhile, $1200 for a prosumer HD camcorder makes amazing video that can go in the pocket.  I mean, obviously the pro crew with $15K of gear and good editing can do amazing things but I think most folks simply want decent quality video of whatever they are shooting to have for fun and family that doesn't suck and will still look good 20 years from now.

And for all those folks, I think the DSLR market is a bit misleading in the hopes of selling some very expensive still cameras that also do video.  I shoot thousands of still images all the time and every time I decide to do a little DSLR video, I am never happy with it.  The video I make with a 3 year old Panasonic HD camcorder OTOH, is fairly acceptable.  At least it's not shaking, out of focus with jerky zooming.  All things I have always endeavored (and succeeded) to do smoothly in all my camcorder videos for many years, even before I got heavily back into still images in 2009.

If you had professional gear obviously it would be easy. Now the problem is that I'm guessing even renting a single proper film camera and lens would be their entire gear budget for the year. That said, they could have done a lot better than they did with even modest amounts of money

You don't need a film camera and a lens.  In fact, that would pretty much suck for the same reason that DSLRs suck; they're typically set up for cinematography, not video—in other words, under the assumption that you're going to be moving the camera around rather than zooming, and that you're never going to shoot close-ups from more than about twenty feet away.

What you need for weddings is real ENG/EFP gear.  The most expensive of the three cameras I recommended above can be bought used from Canon for $2200.  Yes, you can certainly go up from there and spend tens of thousands of dollars, but you really don't need to spend 80 grand to do a lot better than DSLRs (or cinema cameras) for ENG/EFP work.  You can get reasonable EFP gear for about as much money as a decent DSLR and lens.  What matters is that you buy gear that is actually designed for video work instead of stills.

dgatwood - THANK YOU!!!  For saying what I've been saying for years.  DSLRs are NOT ideal for video!!  Very poor form factor, very weak feature set to support the hand held video use they are marketed for.  Cinematography, YES!  Hand held video, NO!!  I constantly marvel at how Sony, Canon, Panasonic and a whole list of other electronics companies' camcorder divisions spent 20+ years perfecting the handheld camcorder in a compact handheld form to make beautiful stabilized videos in low ambient light with rich feature sets only to see DSLRs come along and steal their thunder with shaky unfocused mono audio videos that look like they were made with 20 year old technology.  (Except for the high resolution.)

The only way to get decent video out of a DSLR is to spend another $2K - $5K on equipment to mechanically stabilize, balance and smoothly move a DSLR and use external mics to improve the audio.  Then take that video footage and spend more time in post using software to make it acceptable.  And once you've mastered all that... you've become a cinematographer!!!

Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 27, 2014, 06:32:19 PM »
There is a good price on the Canon Refurbished 70D direct from the Canon store online for $649 + tax.  (~$700)  It shows $699 on the page but once it's in the cart, it will show $649 at checkout.  Canon's online store is very weird in how it works and adds prices.
Just thought I'd let you know if this was something you were considering this week during all the sales.

As long at there are parents of kids, there will be a need for some camera, any camera, that can capture their sporting events from a distance.  P&S and Smartphones can't do this and probably never will.

As long at there are professional sporting events, paparazzi and any other high dollar activity that requires high quality images to make money with studio or otherwise, there will be professional cameras with lenses to match.

So predict all you want about what will happen in 3 years to the DSLR format but these general real world facts will never change and the needs will be ever present.  Personally, I predict with 100% certainty that cameras up to these tasks will still be produced that can be sold at a profit and those cameras won't sell unless we consumers want them.  So whatever works as good or better than what we have now is what we will be buying and talking to death here on this forum!  Yippee!!!  Here's to the FUTURE!   :D

Canon General / Re: Your favorite photography magazines & books
« on: November 26, 2014, 09:37:11 PM »
I do a bit of everything...

-  CanonRumors gives me a plenty of info
-  dps -
-  YouTube sometimes
-  Scott Kelby books and website (although is now getting a bit expensive)
-  Byran Peterson books
-  Joel Sartore books, blog, etc.
-  David Hobby and Joe McNally  books, blogs & seminars
-  Nevada Wier books, blogs & seminars  (She's great, even discusses how she packs, etc.)
-  A ton of misc books obtained from Half-Price Books when I have time to go there and browse.

The fun/neat thing about the used books from Half-Price is that some of them are from waaaay back.  '70's stuff.  It's a blast to read how things were done back in not just the film days, but the manual film days!  We have a lot of technology today but the general rules and limits still apply.  And therefore, the same tricks from any time period can still help improve technique and photographs.  One '70's book I got for about $8 or so was an early book from Annie Liebovitz with pictures of a very young and beautiful Candice Bergen among others.

With regard to lenses - Samsung could simply build a solid adapter/converter to use other lenses.  Make the AF, etc work flawlessly.  Even if they had to work out an agreement with the Canon, Nikon, etc it would be worth it to have an instant and excellent lens arsenal that many would already own.  Canon, et al. would still sell a ton of lenses and I some folks would probably buy their DSLRs too.  Sort of like people buying iPhones and iPads and then later buying Macs because they think they can use an Apple computer to go with the already purchased Apple devices.

These observations about the NX1, particularly about the sensor, coming from jrista got my attention.  The fact that jrista is impressed, impresses me too.

Just curious jrista... what are your thoughts on the Pentax K-3?  If I was going to buy into another system, the K-3 is what I've been interested in due to its superior build, ruggedness, true weather sealing and interesting feature set.

Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 26, 2014, 09:20:52 AM »
  Get your wife on the forum and I assure you she will probably learn a few things. 

No!  Why would you suggest that a new and impressionable photographer come to this forum???  You want her to become jaded and cynical about photography???  ;D

LOL!  Or most definitely she will become jaded and cynical about other photographers!!   :o

(We can behave so bad here sometimes!)    ::)

Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 26, 2014, 09:13:17 AM »
Sean, we are really glad you are here and hope you keep us posted and share how this turns out.  Get your wife on the forum and I assure you she will probably learn a few things.  Of course, this forum is also to blame for many badly needed photography purchases as well!   :D

Aw man, Mt. Spokane!  I don't wanna hear about physics, engineering or science.  I just want rainbow unicorns blowing out the end of the lens!  Changing the zoom/focus rings kills the unicorns!  And I WANT MY RAINBOW UNICORNS!  (Said with the accent of Lt. Aldo Raine from the movie Inglourious Basterds.)

Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:50:42 PM »

I didn't read everyone's advice.
I didn't need to to throw my vote in.

I would upgrade the body before anymore lenses.
Just the  t5i would be a good leap. The new 7D II would be an ever bigger leap.

Like the jeweler we husbands go visit this time of year, they indirectly ask you to put a value on your love. Maybe it's time she had a 5D III and a nice 24-70mm f/2.8 II. She will be set and so will you (for a while)

takesome1, good point about the jeweler.  If only wives visited the camera store the same way husbands visited the jeweler!    ;D

As for the 7D2 or 5D3... while we all love those cameras, the Rebels and xxD bodies are designed for the entry-mid level consumer shooter.  The (much) higher cost and feature sets of the D series bodies might be wasted if those superior features aren't needed, valued or even understood.

Lenses / Re: Lens as a gift. Non Photographer buying... :)
« on: November 25, 2014, 09:42:08 PM »
I 2nd the Wasabi batteries in fact, the latest versions have been bypassing the Canon warning screen with properly reversed engineered circuitry.

Yep.  Just got two more new ones today.  It's really nice to have an extra charger and car cord too.   :)

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