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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:52:56 PM »
Be glad that he spoke to you and didn't just call the police.  I know folks who have ended up in the back of a police cruiser.  People are paranoid - but, unfortunately with the rise of the internet - the perverts are out there and taking and sharing pictures, too.  So the paranoia is not completely out of line.  At least now in the digital age, if you are approached and accused, you can immediately show the pics to prove your innocence.  Back in the film days, it was not so easy.

But we shouldn't have to constantly prove out innocence.  For a benign activity such as photography,  we should not be automatically thrown in to consideration as either terrorists or child rapists. 

Afterall... those who have participated in the bikini thread are not all full-grown lady rapists...

If it is a public place... people are being photographed... not necessarily by a photographer... but by street light cameras, parking lot cameras, cameras at a checkout...

Hey... don't photograph me... that died a long time ago.

Now I need to go search for the bikini thread!!   ;D

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:50:04 PM »
Be glad that he spoke to you and didn't just call the police.  I know folks who have ended up in the back of a police cruiser.  People are paranoid - but, unfortunately with the rise of the internet - the perverts are out there and taking and sharing pictures, too.  So the paranoia is not completely out of line.  At least now in the digital age, if you are approached and accused, you can immediately show the pics to prove your innocence.  Back in the film days, it was not so easy.

But we shouldn't have to constantly prove out innocence.  For a benign activity such as photography,  we should not be automatically thrown in to consideration as either terrorists or child rapists. 

Afterall... those who have participated in the bikini thread are not all full-grown lady rapists...

If it is a public place... people are being photographed... not necessarily by a photographer... but by street light cameras, parking lot cameras, cameras at a checkout...

Hey... don't photograph me... that died a long time ago.

I agree with you but only to a point.  Photography by security cameras is something most people accept and believe to be benign because it's anonymous and is the same for everyone.  No one is 'singled out' that anyone can tell.

Photography by an individual with a zoom lens is more personal.  I agree that we shouldn't have to feel embarrassed to shoot public pictures but society today is what it is.  Girls should be able to walk down the street in provocative clothing and not be objectified, judged or harassed but it happens anyway.  It happens because people are human and think/do things for their own reasons derived from what they feel is right, their morals/ethics or what gives them satisfaction, good or bad.

Everyone makes judgments based on their observations and assumptions regardless of the truth or accuracy of those assumptions.  Then they act on those assumptions and judgments.

All we can control is our own actions and try to anticipate a problem before we do things to cause it.

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Lenses / Re: Bought the 300mm 2.8 ii and think its huge
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:30:23 PM »
Well, I use my 300 for my primary wildlife lens.  With a 2x TC, its a hand holdable 600mm 5.6 with a very short minimum focus distance so its great for photos of small passerines, shorebirds or shooting from a hide.  It's easy enough to hike with once you get used to it especially with a nice black rapid style strap.  I've also used it for field sports with and without the 1.4x TC.  Its good for tight portraiture, especially for indoor sports where you will definitely need the wide aperture.

There's plenty of good uses for the lens if you shoot the style of photography it calls for.  Mine is the ancient non-IS version and I would instantly trade up for the vII if I could afford it.  I bought the sigmonster because I got a crazy good deal on it and it will come in very handy for when I'm distance limited like, say, shooting waterfowl or in a restricted habitat but I will almost certainly continue to use the 300 primarily.  It is just too good and too useful for wildlife and sports.  I'd say keep it around for a bit and see if you use it.  You can't really lose too much money if you find yourself selling it on later and you'll never be hard pressed to find a buyer.  I'd guess that if you have any interest in wildlife or sports photography, you won't ever want to get rid of it.

Thanks for the type of answer I was looking for. I PP a few BIF and was amazed at how sharp this lens is. I think I am going to use it for a few more weeks then make a decision from there.

What is your reason for shooting?  Why do you own what you already own?  Regardless of the answers, is this lens purchase in line with your previous purchases and will it make a difference in your performance, enjoyment and advance your skill?

I notice that you already own 2 5D3 bodies along with other expensive lenses so money obviously isn't an issue and you say as much.  So I think your plan is sound, keep it for a few weeks and enjoy it, then decide.

Keep in mind that you can throw a 1.4 teleconverter on the 70-200/f2.8 and only lose a stop with a max of 280/f4 mm if you sell it.  Not as good as the 300mm/f2.8 but you can easily get the stop back in post with the sensor on the 5D3.  I shoot swimming that way all the time.  Of course I shoot for fun, I'm not shooting for Getty Images.

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:09:29 PM »
People have the right to take pictures in any public place


There's a distinction to be made between what's within your legal rights and what's polite or ethical.  In the U.S., you have the right to go around like Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged and insult everyone you meet, so long as you don't do it in a way that amounts to fighting words.  It is, however, extremely uncivil to do so.  Regardless of your rights, it's uncivil to take photos of people who don't want to be photographed.  The world is not your modeling agency, and its people are not your hired "talent."  Don't treat people as mere scenery in the theater performance that is your life.


Agreed and well said.  Just because you can do something legal doesn't mean you should.  I'm not saying you did anything wrong.  But invading someone's personal space with a long lens makes people nervous and potentially feel threatened.  (Regardless of your intent you can't always know how others may interpret things.)

In this case I don't think you acted inappropriately but the situation did give another observer an opportunity/excuse to do what they could do even if they shouldn't.  Which in this case is be the park savior/protector/big shot/bully.

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:53:17 PM »
To the OP, I think I speak for many photographers when I say that photographing people, esp anonymous people in public is somewhat akin to public speaking and can be unsettling and a little scary sometimes.  It takes confidence and nerve.

You can't control the other guy, but you can control yourself.  It's up to you to keep the encounter positive and not play (into) his game.

I photograph school events, swim meets, boy scouts, church stuff, etc.  I have always tried to keep an attitude of confidence when I shoot these things.  In other words, I shoot like I belong there and I'm shooting for a purpose.  It doesn't matter if I am shooting for an official purpose or for my own purpose.  If I am approached, I simply respond that I am shooting pictures to share with everyone (parents usually) for them to have of their kids.  It rarely goes past that.  I am very accommodating and cheerful about it.  I offer them my card and make sure they know how to see all of my pictures on my zenfolio page.  There they will see thousands of images of many different things that include kids.  I treat any inquiry like I assume they are interested in my images and want know how to obtain them.

If they are negative or accusatory, I pretty much just act the same way, like I've done nothing wrong and if I stop, one or many people will miss out on the results of my efforts (that I offer free of charge).  Depending on the event and my level of desire or the importance of the images, I might elect to stop or I might elect to get someone of importance involved to shut the jerk up.

The difference in my usual situation and your stated situation is the anonymity and lack of a connection to a purpose except for your own enjoyment.  Unfortunately, in this day and age cameras make people nervous.  Blame it on the negative media, rude and invasive paparazzi and unconstitutional ordinances/laws against public photography.  I would have given the guy my card (without an address).  What pervert up to no good offers to share their identity?  I might have offered to share the pictures but I also would have explained that I'm simply enjoying the day like anyone else and not breaking any laws.  If I had to pack up and leave to diffuse the situation, so be it.  But I would have tried my best to turn it around and put the guy at ease first because it's in my neighborhood and I'm likely to see the guy again.

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Photography Technique / Re: Am I the only one this has happened to?
« on: April 20, 2014, 10:29:12 PM »
I know getting into fights isn't socially acceptable... but in my middle age I'm more willing to kick a little ass than I was when I was younger.  But it feels awkward to tell someone... give me five minutes to put my gear away and then I'll happily beat that ass.  [

OK, I'm not prone to violence but the way you stated this, it cracked me up!   ;D

Let's be honest, most of us probably sympathize.  Like you, I'm middle aged and, it seems like the more I see of life that can be unfair sometimes, the more tempted I am to want to yield to a primal impulse and 'fix the problem', at least in a fleeting fantasy.

In reality however, we know violence only makes matters worse, usually for us and not the jerk.

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Software & Accessories / Re: shoulder sling
« on: April 20, 2014, 02:30:19 PM »
I have used several BR Straps and they are great but for the past couple years, I have used a super simple strap called the BosStrap.  I have the older gen 1 version with a pinch clip instead of the 'never remove' version they have now.  And I connect it to the tripod socket like I did with the BR straps.  In other words, I use the BosStrap but in a BR way.  I chose a self made hybrid of the two designs.

http://www.bosstrap.com/

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Third Party Manufacturers / Re: How to Annoy a Photography Snob
« on: April 20, 2014, 11:44:24 AM »
I just love to come here and gush about a Sigma lens....especially when it's better than the Canon counterpart....You can just feel the "L" Groupies getting nervous tics...they try to express their opposing opinion (...the "rendering" in the "L" is more to my liking...) with tact...but you can just feel their indignation right thru your keypad.....I guess I don't understand the Fanbois groupie thing....but it is entertaining.  8) 8) 8)
How dare you sir? ... don't you know that there is a commandment that says "thou shalt not question L supremacy"? ;D

My only beef with third party lenses is poor resale value, which of course stems from people's ignorance of third party lenses, thus triggering a vicious cycle.
So if the 35A and 35L were both the same price I'd go for the L. I've used it briefly, and while the Sigma is probably better, the 35L is amazing already. But I won't pay $ 500 for that L ring! I actually tape over the L rings on my lenses.


But not only the L fanboys are vehement against Sigmas and Tamrons. I was shocked how Ken Rockwell snubbed the excellent 18-35mm (even he had to agree it is optically superior) and advocated not in favor of an L but all the EF-S lenses! Of course, he recourses to simply lying when comparing the 35A's build quality to the 35L's. Without batting an eyelid, he says the Canon has a metallic body and the Sigma has a cheap plastic body.
And in both Sigma reviews he holds being sharp as a bad thing, saying these are sharp because they are built for amateurs, who care only about sharpness! Lol! So to build a lens for pros, Canon and Nikon deliberately build non-sharp lenses.

Another reason to never read a single word Rockwell has said about anything, ever!

You were joking when you said you taped over your L red rings, right?

Rockwell makes for fun reads. Gives you a chuckle once in a while, but you're right- not for any edification.
I actually did tape (gaffer's) over my red rings- well over my entire 24-70II, actually (and a lenscoat is en route for my 70-200). :)
Captures less attention (it is important for me for a few reasons) and keeps my lens scratch free as a bonus.
By the way, you were totally right about the 135L- it is magical. Just received it yesterday and I already love it!

+1  I have taped over the red rings for years with black gaffers tape.   Along with other parts of the lens.  Partly for less attention, partly for protection since the top edge of the lens is usually shiny hard plastic that hits everything, esp when the camera is put down on a flat surface, etc.

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Video & Movie / Blue Angels Practice Perfection
« on: April 20, 2014, 08:07:05 AM »
Not sure where to post this but it's a cool short video on a beautiful morning of amazing aviation with some views of the cameras, lenses, etc.  Enjoy!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=726296920723859&set=vb.428109517209269&type=2&theater

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Software & Accessories / Re: Lens Cover Retainers
« on: April 12, 2014, 08:12:04 PM »
I wrestled with this issue years ago.  Cap?  No Cap?  Tethered Cap?  Ball Cap?  Bottle Cap?

Consider a tethered cap hanging from a camera or lens.  Sorry, but that looks really silly and... it will hit you, your lens or your camera when the wind blows.  I think I have a few pictures from years ago with lens cap blurs in the picture.  Nix that.

So what to do?  Well, first, I toss the worthless (but expensive) Canon cap in the box it came in (for lens resale later)  that you can't get a grip on anyway and usually just gets dropped a lot never to be seen again.

Then...
-  I buy the less expensive but fairly well made Tamron cap.
-  I use a silver sharpie and put my initials and the cap size inside the cap.
-  I cut some black gaffer tape to cover up the Tamron name on the cap so it's just black and I look uber-cool and mysterious but not too cheap.
-  I might get an extra cap(s) and toss them in the bag because even though I don't use them much, you can never have too many caps, right?
-  I seldom use a cap at all but I have the caps in the bag if I ever need them because I like to carry a bunch of stuff that I never use.  Most real photographers do this.  You know who you are!

Seriously, the only time I use caps is when the lens is being stored in the bag while I'm carrying/banging it around or when I use the lens to hit a mugger over the head.  Besides, I always have a high quality filter and lens hood on the lens and I rarely have any problems.  If I need to clean the filter face, so be it.  I usually don't eat fried chicken and then wipe my fingers on my lens.  (But fresh veggies aren't that greasy.)

Rusty

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Lenses / Re: Help with choosing a wide angle lens
« on: April 10, 2014, 11:05:26 PM »
All responses have been great and I really like mackguyver's detail and depth to his answers on this.  I lack his experience with the whole lens range but I will say that the 16-35 has been one of my favorite lenses for years on both APS-C and FF cameras.  I've never used the APS-H (1.3) camera.  Personally I have the 16-35 v1, not the v2 but it's still a great lens.  Keep in mind that the v2 has a 82mm filter, the v1 has a 77mm filter, FWIW.  I personally own the 24-70 (both ver), 24-105, 70-200 and 24 f/1.4 (among others) with respect to this discussion and the 16-35 is almost always with me.

So I would vote for the 16-35 in your situation.  24-70 as the second choice.

Another lens I love to have fun with is the the EF 15mm/2.8 FishEye.  It's not too expensive and makes wonderful images for the price.  (I'm not suggesting this lens as a alternative to the others mentioned, just a fun lens to get someday.)

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Reading through this thread is why I like Canon Rumors.  Good feedback, good knowledge and some good ideas!   8)

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom Mobile Version Official
« on: April 10, 2014, 03:20:53 PM »
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I dont agree that Adobe main customer base is business it maybe where it makes the most money but hundreds of thousands of copies of Photoshop Elements are sold on Amazon, at Costco etc. every year and thousands of Camera Club members globally use this with Lr these are not generally sold to "professionals" but to amateurs and Im sure Adobe would miss the profits they generate.

Next time that you are at a camera club ask how many members use Photoshop, then how many paid for it.  Most members are amazed when I inform them that I only use genuine Adobe software.

LOL!  Yeah, unfortunately this is fairly common.   I think people think they are clever when they manage to get around paying for software.  Sort of like many feel when they get around paying some taxes or something.  As an IT guy, I am asked from time to time to hack software to get it for free for someone.  While I don't mind the occasional double install of MS Office for an otherwise honest and legal home user, I cringe when people just assume that stealing software is something I don't mind doing for them.  Esp for good software like Lightroom that is often priced under $100 when you find the deals.  And some folks qualify for academic pricing and don't even realize it.  My son owns my copy of Photoshop and Lightroom.  I don't make profit from my photography and I'm taking pictures of my sons' activities most of the time anyway.

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Software & Accessories / Re: Adobe Lightroom Mobile Version Official
« on: April 09, 2014, 11:03:37 PM »
Paying a monthly subscription fee for software makes about as much sense as leasing a car.  Ask just about any good financial advisor.  Pisses me off that they alienate those of us who buy their software outright.  LR5 is likely the last boxed version of LR that we will see.
I agree and I hate the subscription model because it locks you in for eternity.  If you slow down your use someday and photography is less of a hobby, what are you going to do when you want to view your extensive photo inventory down the line?  Paying $$ each month just to have access to your images and their edits is not what I signed up for when I committed thousands of images to a Lightroom catalog and the Adobe DNG format.

This opinion is based on pure assumption at this point.  I pray that LR stays a standard software license product if for only the fact that it is an organizational database tool first and foremost.

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FYI - For those of you that haven't heard the news about the HEARTBLEED SSL BUG...

There are many websites that are vulnerable to the bug until they are patched.


Affected PHOTO sites include 500px.com and flickr.com.

(As listed here... https://github.com/musalbas/heartbleed-masstest/blob/master/top1000.txt)

Also, I just tested the vonage.com login page and it is also affected.

Go to these sites to test (paste in the address of) the URL of the https login page before you use or login to the site again.  There is also a Chrome Extension linked at the filippo site.
https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest  OR  http://filippo.io/Heartbleed/

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